Bullpen Concerns - Page 7 - Talksox

**yeszir** · 05-28-2008, 04:51 PM

What the fuck are you guys talking about

**Youk Of The Nation** · 05-28-2008, 05:01 PM

I should start a gamethread one of these days...

**yeszir** · 05-28-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Youk Of The Nation

I should start a gamethread one of these days...

THREE WIFE FOULKERS WOOHOOooOOOOooo

**Youk Of The Nation** · 05-28-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by yeszir

THREE WIFE FOULKERS WOOHOOooOOOOooo

We should pin that thread at the top of the Gamethread forum.

**yeszir** · 05-28-2008, 09:18 PM

Timlin and his near 7 ERA need to go.

It might be a good way to get Bucholz back in the swing of things, pitching some innings of relief

VA Sox Fan · 05-28-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by yeszir

What the fuck are you guys talking about

billyboy posted on the BH. Told the most off the wall, fk'n hilarious stories. He is missed.

**yeszir** · 05-28-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VA Sox Fan

billyboy posted on the BH. Told the most off the wall, fk'n hilarious stories. He is missed.

Can you believe the whole BH --> Talksox fiasco was over 2 years ago

Soxfan#1 · 05-28-2008, 10:35 PM

Can you believe that Riverside Sluggers ever got passed for the post count lead?

ksushi · 05-29-2008, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dowling25

I think you stick with MDC and Hansen this year. I feel they will be able to do something as the year progresses......Hopefully.

I think we need a third solid reliever. It could be one of those two, but I don't know if it is MDC or bust and if we're looking down the barrell of Hansen or Bust, I don't think we're a playoff team. Wake and Masterson can both be put in the bullpen. Initially, Masterson projected as a reliever, a short-term conversion to that role wouldn't keep him from starting in the future. They did it with Pap with all intentions originally of having him be a starter, it gave him experience in the bigs (and playoffs), which helped his development for sure. It also gave the club a major boost. Masterson could be similar.

This is a long shot to say the least, but, if Daniel Bard toys with AA hitters like he did in A, a swift promotion to AAA could be in order. A 100mph fastball, when spotted, is effective at any level. But, like I said, serious long shot. I like Hansen and MDC to turn it around way more than I like Bard to make it to the bigs, but I wouldn't say its 100% out of the question yet. MDC was nice last night, so all this might be moot.

jacksonianmarch · 05-29-2008, 07:26 AM

Right now, Masterson may end up being in your rotation for a bit, so converting him to the pen is likely a poor idea. Until you know when DiceK is coming back for sure, you dont convert him. Also, you guys have a guy in Colon occupying a spot in the rotation who has had problems with endurance as the season wears along, so having an emergency starter like Masterson is a boon. Also, Schill is actually throwing so if he can fill in as the emergency starter then moving Masterson to the pen potentially can help. I do think Masterson will be in your pen for the playoffs though. His sinker-slurve (looked like a slurve on TV) is solid.

YAZMAN · 05-29-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by yeszir

What the fuck are you guys talking about

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He lives in his mom's basement.
He rides a Huffy.
He smokes cool, refreshing Mustang Menthols.
His computer has a broken period key.
He has a penchant for shoplifting small items such as lighters and gum.
He likes to punch people in the back, and execute spinning kicks that frequently miss their mark.
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He's the lead singer in a Van Halen cover band. I went to see them play once:

ksushi · 05-29-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Right now, Masterson may end up being in your rotation for a bit, so converting him to the pen is likely a poor idea. Until you know when DiceK is coming back for sure, you dont convert him. Also, you guys have a guy in Colon occupying a spot in the rotation who has had problems with endurance as the season wears along, so having an emergency starter like Masterson is a boon. Also, Schill is actually throwing so if he can fill in as the emergency starter then moving Masterson to the pen potentially can help. I do think Masterson will be in your pen for the playoffs though. His sinker-slurve (looked like a slurve on TV) is solid.

I don't think anyone should be concerned about our rotation. Right now, we have seven starters including Masterson, and eight if you include Curt Schilling who might possibly come back. We can get by if Dice-K needs to miss time, Masterson won't be the first guy we would turn to either. Right now, there is a pressing need in our bullpen, I don't think it will happen today or tomorrow, but this regular season Masterson will be in our pen.

TheKilo · 05-29-2008, 03:25 PM

Regarding Bard - I'd like to see him have some sustained success against AA batters first...but who knows, Joba redux?

ksushi · 05-29-2008, 03:47 PM

Right, obviously, he hasn't been in AA for long but the early results are good and his fastball is crazy. Hit 101 earlier this year. Freak.

jacksonianmarch · 05-29-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ksushi

I don't think anyone should be concerned about our rotation. Right now, we have seven starters including Masterson, and eight if you include Curt Schilling who might possibly come back. We can get by if Dice-K needs to miss time, Masterson won't be the first guy we would turn to either. Right now, there is a pressing need in our bullpen, I don't think it will happen today or tomorrow, but this regular season Masterson will be in our pen.

I wouldnt be so sure...

Lets say DiceK is out for an extended period of time, which when making contingency plans, you must assume the worst.

That leaves you with...

Beckett
Colon
Wakefield
Lester
....

Right now, the sox are actually moving Mastersons start back to get him right in line with DiceK's start, essentially meaning that right now, Masterson is considered the favorite for DiceK's start. Now lets assume that Masterson isnt in the sox plans as a starter for a long time this yr. Lets say that Buchholz eventually takes the spot the second time around. That leaves you with...

Beckett
Colon
Wake
Lester
Buchholz

and Masterson in the minors. Schilling is throwing, but is so far from a sure bet to make it from the majors that he cannot even be on the radar screen right now. So therefore, its those 5 with Masterson as the 6th starter sitting in AAA and DiceK out for an extended period of time with arm issues. Looking at the recent history, Colon's shoulder holds out for around 10 or so starts before it goes to crap. Therefore, Masterson in the starter's role is necessary in the event that Colon goes down.

As the season goes along, these contingency plans can get modified. If Colon continues to throw well and doesnt tire, then you have a spot secure. If DiceK's arm is solid and he comes back and is dominant again, then you have another spot secure. If Schill beats the odds and comes back as a reliable 6th starter then the contingency spot is secure. THAT is when you move Masterson to the pen. But for right now, there is a chance that JMast sees a lot of time in your rotation, and that chance will keep him from getting transitioned for awhile.