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07-29-2008, 05:05 PM
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Manny Ramirez Trade Deadline Thread (renamed)
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/ar...eadline_1.html
Breaking out from the Manny thread:
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The Red Sox and Dodgers are engaged in substantive talks involving Manny Ramirez, according to sources, and if a deal can be finalized the expectation is that Boston would push to the front of the line on obtaining Mark Teixeira from the Braves.
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The Mets New York Mets have continued to talk to the Red Sox without much possibility of finding a deal for Ramirez. The main track now involves the Dodgers. An executive who has spoken with officials from an involved team said it is his understanding that Boston would eat most, if not all, of the roughly $7 million left on Ramirez’s 2008 contract and in exchange would receive a top youngster such as Matt Kemp or Andre Ethier.
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If they obtain Teixeira, the Red Sox could use current first baseman Kevin Youkilis either to replace Ramirez in left or as part of the trade for Teixeira.
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My question becomes - if you move Manny for Kemp or Ethier/+, why even bother trading for Teixeira? Youkilis for Tex is a lateral move, especially at a 2 month rental:
Kemp for 5 yrs + Youk for 2 >> Kemp for 5 yrs and Tex for 1/2 yr
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07-29-2008, 05:16 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
I would assume that any Tex deal comes with the caveat of an extension
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Varitek can go die in a fire. Dude needs to rot for this bullshit. Fuck him.
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Ortiz can go fuck himself too
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07-29-2008, 05:19 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
Don't know, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'd stand pat with Kemp and Youk.
Kemp would be a boon for the future of the team. He's 23 and putting up an .813 with 12 dingers and 23 steals in Dodger Stadium. He could approach 30/30 in Fenway with fabulous D to boot.
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07-29-2008, 05:29 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
If Theo can turn Manny into Kemp for the rest of the year....wow.
What if the move for Teixeira comes from Jacoby+? Slide Youk to left, play Kemp in Center?
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Lucic on his hand, which was cut: “I'll be fine. (The X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before that you can't really tell.” (11/13/08 Postgame)
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07-29-2008, 05:33 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
All for naught?
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story...13162&ATT=3498
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The Dodgers are not pursuing Red Sox left fielder Manny Ramirez or Braves first Mark Teixeira, according to major-league sources. Their priority remains a shortstop, and they might end up with only a backup at the position, if anyone.
The Red Sox contacted the Dodgers about Ramirez, just as they've contacted virtually every team that might be interested in the slugger. The Dodgers, however, dismissed the idea, balking at the likely asking price and the circus-like atmosphere surrounding Ramirez.
"There's too much going on there," one source said.
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Lucic on his hand, which was cut: “I'll be fine. (The X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before that you can't really tell.” (11/13/08 Postgame)
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07-29-2008, 05:36 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
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If Theo can turn Manny into Kemp for the rest of the year....wow.
What if the move for Teixeira comes from Jacoby+? Slide Youk to left, play Kemp in Center?
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I'd rather move Teixeira to left. I think Youk might be slightly better at first then Teixeira. Plus Teixeira can also play OF.
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07-29-2008, 09:20 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
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I'd rather move Teixeira to left. I think Youk might be slightly better at first then Teixeira. Plus Teixeira can also play OF.
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How many games has he played there the last 5 years?
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Lucic on his hand, which was cut: “I'll be fine. (The X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before that you can't really tell.” (11/13/08 Postgame)
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07-29-2008, 09:23 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
Manny for Kemp?  Good for the future, but bad for this year.
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07-29-2008, 09:26 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
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Manny for Kemp?  Good for the future, but bad for this year.
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They aren't going anywhere this year.
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Lucic on his hand, which was cut: “I'll be fine. (The X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before that you can't really tell.” (11/13/08 Postgame)
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07-29-2008, 10:35 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
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Manny for Kemp?  Good for the future, but bad for this year.
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This is the last year of the league?
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07-29-2008, 10:39 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
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This is the last year of the league?
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I apologize for wanting to win this year.
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07-29-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
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How many games has he played there the last 5 years?
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How about 6 years. 32
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07-29-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ers/index.html
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The Red Sox appear serious about trading slugger Manny Ramirez and are talking to the Phillies and two other teams about a deal, according to people familiar with the talks.
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It isn't yet known what players would be going back to Boston, but left fielder Pat Burrell is having a similar year statistically (.277/.400/.585 with 26 HRs and 61 RBIs in 103 games for Burrell; .304/.400/.538 with 20 HRs and 68 RBIs in 98 games for Ramirez) and could be a logical fit. He has a no-trade clause but has told the Phillies in the past that he'd be willing to waive it for the Red Sox and Yankees.
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It is also believed that the Dodgers and the Marlins are the other teams involved in the Ramirez Sweepstakes. The Marlins appear to be a longshot.
While no deal involving Ramirez has been consummated, it appears to be gaining steam.
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Lucic on his hand, which was cut: “I'll be fine. (The X-rays are) negative, but there's so many broken bones in there from before that you can't really tell.” (11/13/08 Postgame)
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07-29-2008, 10:54 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
The Florida Marlins???
trade Manny Ramirez for Hanley Ramirez
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07-29-2008, 10:57 PM
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Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez
ManRam for HanRam. Great headline
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