Jason Bay v. Manny Ramirez

[rician blast]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Everyone will have an initial defiant reaction.

Watch tonight's game. First time Bay comes to the plate he will get a solid ovation. REAL fans try and make it easier for their team's players to succeed..at least initially...rather than harder.

[Youk Of The Nation]

I like this trade...

[CalvnHobs6]

Jason Bay just gave a solid press conference on NESN. He said all of the right things, and it sounds like we'll get to like him.

[riverside sluggers]

Ill do a weekly update on stats, side by side comparison of what each player has done since the trade

Manny Ramirez
LA Dodgers since trade are 2-2
10 for 16 (.625 avg) Double, 2 HRs, 5 RBIs, 5 Runs, 2 Walks, 2 Ks

Jason Bay
Red Sox since trade are 4-1
9 for 21 (.429 avg) 2 Doubles, Triple, HR, 6 RBIs, 8 Runs, 3 Walks, 5 Ks

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by riverside sluggers

Ill do a weekly update on stats, side by side comparison of what each player has done since the trade

Manny Ramirez
LA Dodgers since trade are 2-1
8 for 13 (.615 avg) Double, 2 HRs, 5 RBIs, 4 Runs, 2 Ks

Jason Bay
Red Sox since trade are 3-1
5 for 16 (.313 avg) Triple, HR, 4 RBIs, 6 Runs, 3 Walks, 5 Ks

Despite the fact Manny's doing better. Who's to say those would be the same numbers if he were still in Boston? Who's to say he wouldn't slack more, or just flat out not hit good with all the mess there could have been?

I don't care how well Manny's hitting in Los Angeles. I care about how well Bay is hitting in Boston.

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Originally Posted by Thumper

Despite the fact Manny's doing better. Who's to say those would be the same numbers if he were still in Boston? Who's to say he wouldn't slack more, or just flat out not hit good with all the mess there could have been?

I don't care how well Manny's hitting in Los Angeles. I care about how well Bay is hitting in Boston.

At least one of Manny's HR's would not have left Fenway--probably a long single off the monster. It was a tremendous blast, but a line drive.

It will be hard to compare much other than the W-L of the various teams and the players' individual performances.

[Dojji]

This is probably the most unfair possible time to start a thread like this Bay's going to look pretty bad because he didn't have a good game -- and of course, Manny did.

Then there's the fact that the pitchers Manny faced were Randy Johnson in the role of Methuselah (who shut Manny down for the most part). spot starter Yusmeiro Petit, and mediocre lefty Doug Davis. That's not quite comparable with facing Justin Duchscherer or Gil Meche for 7 innings. Bay has faced much more pitching talent -- even the kids we pasted in the second and third Oakland games at Fenway are pretty talented prospects/rookies although they haven't come into their own yet.

[Mr Crunchy]

i see ortiz has a problem with his wrist,he heard a clicking noise.
hmmmn
clicking noises,kind of like a clock kind of clicking david?
you cant measure mannys worth by mannys #s alone
theres a lot of other things that need to be counted when discussing manny and him not being here.
in any case manny isnt responsible for ellsbury hitting like shit or veritek becoming a xen buddhist.

[riverside sluggers]

Originally Posted by Thumper

Despite the fact Manny's doing better. Who's to say those would be the same numbers if he were still in Boston? Who's to say he wouldn't slack more, or just flat out not hit good with all the mess there could have been?

I don't care how well Manny's hitting in Los Angeles. I care about how well Bay is hitting in Boston.

Just putting out this here agin, I have been all for Bay since I heard the trade rumors coming out of nowhere. Manny pissed me off with his bailing on the team antics and Im glad in La

Last night I noticed this thread, I thought no harm in doing saide by side comparison stats every week just for kicks

I know one thing and thats for Bay to start hitting 4th behind Ortiz

[TheKilo]

I think he's fit in just fine.

[jlcrss9]

I quite like Bay. My father grew up around Pittsburgh so ive always followed the Pirates to a small extent and thought highly of bay. Produces in a crappy hitters park for an even worse team. Now we get to see him in a ballpark where he can pepper the wall for doubles whenever he wants and is surrounded by much better hitters. There is no chance he will ever be as good as Manny was in his prime, but there havent been many hitters ever who could say that. Plus, I doubt we will be hearing "It's just Bay being Bay" in a bad sense anytime soon.

[BoSox21]

honestly, its just refreshing to not have to worry about an athlete's mood as to whether he'll give maximum effort or not and thats the way it should be