Dice K or Clay in Game 3

[a700hitter]

Originally Posted by yankees228

Technically that might be correct, but Jon Lester won the deciding game in the 2007 World Series (only 15 starts the previous year). Josh Beckett was incredible in the 2003 postseason in only his second big league season. I don't think Matt Garza's inexperience hurt him against the Red Sox last year.

Those are just a couple of pitching examples from recent seasons.

I'm not saying that young pitchers never do well in the post-season. I am saying that a manager who has a choice between throwing an experienced pitcher versus an inexperienced pitcher in an elimination game would opt for the experience. It has nothing to do with games where a young guy beat an experienced guy. Would Scioscia have started Lackey in game 7 if he had Curt Schilling available? In 2007, Lester pitched game 4 to closeout a sweep. He would not even have pitched that if Wakefield had not been injured. Game 7 would have been Beckett or Schilling. In 2003, the Marlins were not facing elimination when Beckett pitched game 6.

[Keeper]

Originally Posted by yankees228

Can you give me a tangible example of experience being the reason a team won or player performed well?

EDIT: If experience is so important, why did John Lackey beat Livan Hernandez in Game 7 of the 2002 World Series? I don't think anyone needs to be reminded of what Hernandez accomplished in the playoffs. I realize this is just one example, and doesn't necessarily prove my point, but I'm not the one making definitive statements.

A wee bit confrontational, aren't we? One thing I'd like to make clear. I never said you can't be effective with little to no postseason experience. If that had been the case, I never would have nominated Buchholz to start Game 3.

I think that most baseball insiders would agree with me. When it comes to pitching, I'll take experience over exuberance most of the time. A veteran generally won't get too caught up in the moment and won't be overwhelmed on the big stage.

Here's a scenario. Two pitchers get hit hard to start a game. One is a rookie. The other is a veteran. Who is more likely to get rattled? Who is more likely to maintain his composure and gut it out?

That's probably not the tangible example you were looking for, but I don't really care.

[jacksonianmarch]

there have been plenty of rookies who dominated in their debuts and plenty of veterans who got rattled. I have a general rule for you. If you are good, then you will pitch well. And if you are good and a power pitcher, you will generally do better.

[yankees228]

Originally Posted by Keeper

A wee bit confrontational, aren't we? One thing I'd like to make clear. I never said you can't be effective with little to no postseason experience. If that had been the case, I never would have nominated Buchholz to start Game 3.

I think that most baseball insiders would agree with me. When it comes to pitching, I'll take experience over exuberance most of the time. A veteran generally won't get too caught up in the moment and won't be overwhelmed on the big stage.

Here's a scenario. Two pitchers get hit hard to start a game. One is a rookie. The other is a veteran. Who is more likely to get rattled? Who is more likely to maintain his composure and gut it out?

That's probably not the tangible example you were looking for, but I don't really care.

How was I being confrontational? I simply asked you a question, and provided my point of view. The fact of the matter is that all this experience stuff is nothing more than conjecture, yet people state it as if it's fact.

For what it's worth, Jacko hit the nail on the head.

[Christian Snyder]

Clay Bucholz (spelling?).

[Ray10]

Honestly Clay has pitched great this year.But I'm gonna have to go with experience and say Dice-K should start it.

[a700hitter]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

there have been plenty of rookies who dominated in their debuts and plenty of veterans who got rattled. I have a general rule for you. If you are good, then you will pitch well. And if you are good and a power pitcher, you will generally do better.

Joba or Pettitte if the Yankees face an elimination game?

[redsoxrules]

Originally Posted by a700hitter

Joba or Pettitte if the Yankees face an elimination game?

considering that Joba has been sucking dick for 2 months that's an easy choice

[yankees228]

Originally Posted by a700hitter

Joba or Pettitte if the Yankees face an elimination game?

That doesn't prove your point at all. I'd rather throw Chad Gaudin out there than Joba right now.

[BSN07]

Originally Posted by Christian Snyder

Clay Bucholz (spelling?).

Buchholz.


No worries though. Took me forever to get it right myself

[a700hitter]

Buchholz is going tostart game 3. I don't get it. He has thrown 2 major stinkers in a row. Dice K has pitched well and he has the experience advantage.

[Spudboy]

Originally Posted by a700hitter

Buchholz is going tostart game 3. I don't get it. He has thrown 2 major stinkers in a row. Dice K has pitched well and he has the experience advantage.

Kind of a head scratcher.

Either way, who knows?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Originally Posted by a700hitter

Buchholz is going tostart game 3. I don't get it. He has thrown 2 major stinkers in a row. Dice K has pitched well and he has the experience advantage.

Who cares?


2 stinkers after 6 straight good outings, and 9 out of 10 good outings. The 2 stinkers being in meaningless games. O noez.

[Keeper]

Call me a flip flopper, but I might go with Dice-K now. But I guess the decision has been made already.

[a700hitter]

Originally Posted by Jacoby_Ellsbury

Who cares?


2 stinkers after 6 straight good outings, and 9 out of 10 good outings. The 2 stinkers being in meaningless games. O noez.

So, the terrible starts with all the gopher balls don't concern you at all? How will you feel if the whole season is riding on Buchholz in the first big game of his career?