Official 2009-2010 Hot Stove season thread

[bostonule25]

Originally Posted by TheKilo

HamRam?

Start posting better.

thats what marlins fans call him

[Dipre]

Originally Posted by bostonule25

thats what marlins fans call him

You wrote HaM-Ram instead of HaN-Ram.

[example1]

Originally Posted by Dojji

That someone is not Alex Gonzalez. Just for the record. He's a competent professional defensive shortstop with a good head and good hands, and that's useful, but this is not Ozzie Smith we're talking about.

It'd be intriguing if that Cuban feller they got -- Iglesias was it? -- put himself in the mix. But that doesn't really sound like something in character for this team.

Iglesias would be very, very young to start for the Sox. They did sign him to only a 4 year deal though, so I bet his timeline is faster than most.

I agree that Gonzalez won't be the best option.

[Dojji]

Dojji's Minimalist Offseason.

This is the offseason you absolutely have to equal or exceed if you want to make the playoffs next year.

Sign Jarrod Washburn to be our inning-burning, league average 5th starter.

Trade Delcarmen for JJ Hardy, solidifying SS

Release Varitek (treat his $3M player option as a golden handshake and wish him well), and play one of Kottaras or Brown (preference: Brown) behind Victor Martinez at catcher.

Re-sign Jason Bay (5/80)

Sign 2 relievers from the surprisingly rich bullpen selection this offseason. (Fernando Rodney and Justin Duchscerher are both Type B's that could be effective for us)

Ellsbury CF
Pedroia 2B
Martinez C
Bay LF
Drew RF
Youkilis 1B
Ortiz DH
Lowell 3B
Hardy SS

Brown, C
Kotchman, 1B
Lowrie, OF
Baldelli/FA bench OF

Beckett
Lester
Buchholz
Daisuke
Washburn

Papelbon
Oki
Bard
Rodney
Ramirez
Duchscherer
Wakefield/Jones/Bowden

[bostonule25]

So pretty much we add Hardy and a couple arms and we're WS contenders?

[example1]

Originally Posted by Dojji

Dojji's Minimalist Offseason.

This is the offseason you absolutely have to equal or exceed if you want to make the playoffs next year.

Sign Jarrod Washburn to be our inning-burning, league average 5th starter.

I made a very, very long post above spouting my version of the same thing. I wasn't in the mood to respond.. However, no. No to Jarrod Washburn in any capacity.

Trade Delcarmen for JJ Hardy, solidifying SS

Fine. Maybe. Hardy was bad for much of the season, so I don't know how having him on the team is in any way an answer for the SS position. I could see us being in the same place next year as we are now.

Release Varitek (treat his $3M player option as a golden handshake and wish him well), and play one of Kottaras or Brown (preference: Brown) behind Victor Martinez at catcher.

If one of them is good enough defensively. otherwise, always keep eyes open for a catcher.

Re-sign Jason Bay (5/80)

In the long post, again, above I advocate for going after Matt Holliday instead. I wasn't saying that yesterday (when I was worried about the risk of going after him over Bay) but if the Sox truly want a marquee batter in his prime, Holliday is probably the better option and they're a good enough team to get those guys if they truly want them. It's riskier but over the longterm it is the smarter baseball move IMO.

Sign 2 relievers from the surprisingly rich bullpen selection this offseason. (Fernando Rodney and Justin Duchscerher are both Type B's that could be effective for us)

Add Valverde to that list. He's at type A but has been a good reliever.

[bostonule25]

Originally Posted by Coco's Disciples

What quality #4 starter? Does Bard close?

Harden

Get Wagner back to close

[bostonule25]

imo we should sign Rafeal Soriano as a set up man. 2.24 tRA is NASTY

[Coco's Disciples]

Originally Posted by bostonule25

Harden

Get Wagner back to close

I absolutely hate the idea of going into 2010 with Wagner closing. He's going to be 38, and has major health problems.

[bostonule25]

he was good for us this year. Saito could help out as could Soriano

[Dojji]

None of the guys you mentioned are as reliable as Papelbon. Don't let a long overdue correction mask that fact.

[bostonule25]

Papelbon is reliable? lol he led the AL in unclean innings for closer. paps is defitantly better, but id rather take a great lineup and a good pen than a good lineup and a great pen

[Dojji]

Originally Posted by bostonule25

Papelbon is reliable? lol

LOL right back at you.

I now know how seriously to take you.

Jonathan Papelbon may no longer be invincible, but he's still a fine closer. I think we all knew it'd wind up like that as his career went forward and more people saw him in action.

[CoachC.]

Originally Posted by bostonule25

So pretty much we add Hardy and a couple arms and we're WS contenders?

if you read the first paragraph of his post, thats AT LEAST what we have to do to just MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

[Jasonbay44]

Originally Posted by Dojji

Dojji's Minimalist Offseason.

This is the offseason you absolutely have to equal or exceed if you want to make the playoffs next year.

Sign Jarrod Washburn to be our inning-burning, league average 5th starter.

Trade Delcarmen for JJ Hardy, solidifying SS

Release Varitek (treat his $3M player option as a golden handshake and wish him well), and play one of Kottaras or Brown (preference: Brown) behind Victor Martinez at catcher.

Re-sign Jason Bay (5/80)

Sign 2 relievers from the surprisingly rich bullpen selection this offseason. (Fernando Rodney and Justin Duchscerher are both Type B's that could be effective for us)

Ellsbury CF
Pedroia 2B
Martinez C
Bay LF
Drew RF
Youkilis 1B
Ortiz DH
Lowell 3B
Hardy SS

Brown, C
Kotchman, 1B
Lowrie, OF
Baldelli/FA bench OF

Beckett
Lester
Buchholz
Daisuke
Washburn

Papelbon
Oki
Bard
Rodney
Ramirez
Duchscherer
Wakefield/Jones/Bowden

Duchscerher is an interesting name. He's had elbow troubles and is dealing with depression issues, not someone I would target. But he could be the this years offseason "project". Sign him, have him pitch in minors or whatever is needed till he gets over his depression then call him up when bullpen dpeth is needed or when there is an injury in the rotation.