Arbitration Eligible Red Sox - Talksox

a700hitter · 11-15-2009, 02:21 AM

There are 8 Red Sox who are Arbitration eligible. Who gets tendered and does not? Here's my guess:

Jonathan Papelbon-- yes
Ramon Ramirez-- yes
Hideki Okajima-- yes
Manny Delcarmen--yes
Fernando Cabrera-- no
Jeremy Hermida-- yes
Brian Anderson--no
Casey Kotchman-- no

example1 · 11-15-2009, 02:39 AM

I agree except for Kotchman.

Jonathan Papelbon-- yes
Ramon Ramirez-- yes
Hideki Okajima-- yes
Manny Delcarmen--yes
Fernando Cabrera-- no
Jeremy Hermida-- yes
Brian Anderson--no
Casey Kotchman-- yes

BSN07 · 11-15-2009, 06:55 AM

Kotchman is an ideal back-up 1B that some other teams may value that the Sox control for then next 2 years. He's getting offered arb.\

The rest of the players are obvious choices.

a700hitter · 11-15-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by example1

I agree except for Kotchman.

Jonathan Papelbon-- yes
Ramon Ramirez-- yes
Hideki Okajima-- yes
Manny Delcarmen--yes
Fernando Cabrera-- no
Jeremy Hermida-- yes
Brian Anderson--no
Casey Kotchman-- yes

In arbitration, they will look at his stats for last year that show him with almost 400 ABs and the arbitrator will rule accordingly. He'll get nowhere near that playing time with the Sox unless something catastrophic happens to Youkilis. Why would the Sox want to give him pay that is close to full-time player pay, when he will be a late inning defensive guy?

Spudboy · 11-15-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by example1

I agree except for Kotchman.

Jonathan Papelbon-- yes
Ramon Ramirez-- yes
Hideki Okajima-- yes
Manny Delcarmen--yes
Fernando Cabrera-- no
Jeremy Hermida-- yes
Brian Anderson--no
Casey Kotchman-- yes

I agree with this.

Jasonbay44 · 11-15-2009, 12:01 PM

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I agree with this.

Ditto.

italstallianion · 11-15-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonbay44

Ditto.

Ditto Ditto.

Dojji · 11-15-2009, 12:56 PM

It's too easy to find another player who can do what Casey Kotchman does, and we could use a RHH off the bench. Right now only our two switch hiters even hit from that side and neither Varitek nor Lowrie should really be counted on for much offense.

a700hitter · 11-15-2009, 01:01 PM

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It's too easy to find another player who can do what Casey Kotchman does, and we could use a RHH off the bench. Right now only our two switch hiters even hit from that side and neither Varitek nor Lowrie should really be counted on for much offense.

So, you wouldn't tender him? My concern is that the arbitrator will pay him based on his almost 400 ABs and he is not going to get anything near that with the Sox. If they tender him, they will likely be overpaying for a guy who will get about 125 ABs.

example1 · 11-15-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by a700hitter

In arbitration, they will look at his stats for last year that show him with almost 400 ABs and the arbitrator will rule accordingly. He'll get nowhere near that playing time with the Sox unless something catastrophic happens to Youkilis. Why would the Sox want to give him pay that is close to full-time player pay, when he will be a late inning defensive guy?

Kotchman's last two arbitrations have been $1.45m and $2.88m. He might make $4m if arbitration happens. The Sox may sign him to an extension or something, or sign him before arbitration process happens.

I'm just assuming that one way or another next year Kotchman will either be on their club or he will be moved in a trade. Arbitration seems like the most obvious way.

a700hitter · 11-15-2009, 04:08 PM

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Kotchman's last two arbitrations have been $1.45m and $2.88m. He might make $4m if arbitration happens. The Sox may sign him to an extension or something, or sign him before arbitration process happens.

I'm just assuming that one way or another next year Kotchman will either be on their club or he will be moved in a trade. Arbitration seems like the most obvious way.

Why would he sign with the Sox who clearly have no plans to give him a starting job?

example1 · 11-15-2009, 04:22 PM

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Why would he sign with the Sox who clearly have no plans to give him a starting job?

Because they control him.

If they offer him a bit more money over two years then it could make sense. Otherwise he's going to arbitration and will end up on the Sox for 2010.

Emmz · 11-15-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by italstallianion

Ditto Ditto.

Ditto Ditto Ditto

Dojji · 11-15-2009, 04:35 PM

I'd almost rather give Aaron Bates a legit shot at playing time than play Ross Gload, Jr. on a regular basis.

If we don't tender Kotchman, we can use VMart as our backup 1B, and that's a more suitable option IMHO. that would allow us to carry a 5th OF, which I think we're going to wind up needing since Hermida's not much good in CF.

a700hitter · 11-15-2009, 05:23 PM

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Because they control him.

If they offer him a bit more money over two years then it could make sense. Otherwise he's going to arbitration and will end up on the Sox for 2010.

I really don't see him signing for two years. He must want to go somewhere to start for more $ than we will offer him.

I think he is nothing special. He's a singles hitting first baseman with no speed. He's a bottom third of the order guy, and there is much of a market for a guy like that who can only play first base. I can't see him having much trade value at all, so why bother keeping control of him for an inflated price.