The roster as it is right now - Talksox

Dojji · 11-15-2009, 01:08 PM

Starters:

C: Martinez
1B: Lowell
2B: Pedroia
3B: Lowell
SS: Lowrie
LF: _______
CF: Ellsbury
RF: Drew
DH: Ortiz

Bench:
Varitek, C
Kotchman, 1B
(Green?), IF
Hermida, OF

Rotation:

Lester
Beckett
Matsuzaka
Buchholz
Wakefield

Pen:

Papelbon
Okajima
Bard
Ramirez
Delcarmen
_______
_______

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On the whole, we're in a pretty good situation in the field. Got some age in some crucial places, and we're not the defensive club we've been in seasons past but it's not going to be a franchise-breaking problem unless someone gets seriously hurt.

The middle infield is a sideshow, we can run Lowrie and Green if we have to and if Jed is actually healthy at last that's better than most of the FA's. Or we could get Gonzalez. Or there's still a couple trades we could maybe pull. Regardless, not a lot of real room to either improve or get worse at SS IMHO. As long as we get left field sorted out to our benefit, we're good for another playoff run

I like our rotation a lot, too. Matsuzaka's an enigma and Buchholz is a developing player, but I think we can stack our rotation against anyone's and expect good things. I think we've got some issues but so doesn't everyone, and this is still a top 5 rotation in the league -- right where we need it to be for a good shot at October.

The bullpen is also, not as awesome as it was billed last April, but respectable. We don't have to put a ton of thought into who takes up the last two spots in the pen, and Bard, Delcarmen and possibly Ramirez are good candidates to improve next year. If we can score a decent second lefty I think we'll be doing well.

On the whole, I'd say that we can't do too much to this roster that will make us anything other than an immediate playoff contender -- maybe not a world series favorite, but even if things don't fall perfectly, this team should see October barring a major disaster. There's plenty of room for improvement -- there always is. I do feel we're a top 5 team in every aspect of the game but defense, which won't kill us badly enough to take away our other advantages.

jacksonianmarch · 11-15-2009, 05:04 PM

If you go into the yr with that pitching staff, your bullpen will be the strength of the staff and you better make some sacrifices to God, Allah or whomever you believe in that the rotation stays intact and effective.

BoSox21 · 11-15-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

If you go into the yr with that pitching staff, your bullpen will be the strength of the staff and you better make some sacrifices to God, Allah or whomever you believe in that the rotation stays intact and effective.

Do you constantly wear a name tag that says Hi My Name is Wet Blanket or something? How hasn't the concept of constantly trying to temper the enthusiasm of Red Sox fans bored you to death yet?

Dojji · 11-15-2009, 05:36 PM

Because we'll never catch the feared and dreaded "Sabathia And Everyone Else" rotation of the yankees, right?

The Yankees have an actual hole in their rotation, and the questionmarks that surround the idiot Chamberlain, the erratic Burnett, and the aged Pettitte are not trivial.

Don't talk to me about Boston's rotation.

jacksonianmarch · 11-15-2009, 05:43 PM

If you actually read what I wrote instead of just slamming it constantly, you can see exactly what I am talking about.

I have consistently stated that a good rotation has 3 reliable pitchers on it. You need to have 3 guys who you can count on to throw 30+ times a yr. The other two spots can be a combination of dependability, injury liability, promise, etc. Right now, NY has two reliable guys in it with CC, and AJ. The Red Sox have Lester and Beckett. I am absolutely positive that we get one reliable pitcher for our 3 hole, either Lackey or Pettitte. I am not sure that the sox are making any improvements in the rotation. If they get a guy who is reliable to slot into that 3 hole, then I think they'll be fine. If they dont then its a crap shoot.

BSN07 · 11-15-2009, 06:02 PM

I've read Lowrie is going to have to prove himself in AAA. So you can scratch him.

BoSox21 · 11-15-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BSN07

I've read Lowrie is going to have to prove himself in AAA. So you can scratch him.

Well, as it stands today he's the Opening Day SS

Dipre · 11-15-2009, 06:06 PM

Hey Jacko. The sky is blue, there is good in the world.

TheMino007 · 11-16-2009, 01:48 PM

I'm gonna keep this blunt: Sox have no number three, sign Lackey. Bring back Gonzo for one year at SS. Trade for Miguel Cabrera or Adrian Gonzalez. Sign Bay/Holliday. Try to persuade Wanger to come back.

jacksonianmarch · 11-16-2009, 03:24 PM

Mino, if the sox did all that, then they would be tough to beat

TheMino007 · 11-16-2009, 06:07 PM

Well, that is the idea lol. Thats 50-60 million dollars right there, but it would be well worth it. Realistically, the Sox should bring Gonzo back for 3 mil and re-sign Bay or sign Holliday. Then trade for a big name like Gonzalez or Cabrera or Halladay or Herndandez. Just keep the options open Theo

Sweet Chin Music33 · 11-17-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMino007

I'm gonna keep this blunt: Sox have no number three, sign Lackey. Bring back Gonzo for one year at SS. Trade for Miguel Cabrera or Adrian Gonzalez. Sign Bay/Holliday. Try to persuade Wanger to come back.

Id be happy with:
1. No Lackey, the rotation is still pretty good without. It would be a nice addition, but if not...another bullpen ACE, not a roster filler arm....but an ACE.
2. A GON returns for a 2 year deal, year 2 we keep him around as a spare part.
3. Hopefully acquire another bat in addition to Bay/Holliday, not going to name him.....but it is a need.
4. Sign Holliday, Ive already seen what Bay brings to the table, I was happy with what I got, but Holliday is more intriguing to me, this is not an argument about who is better, I just think Id like to see what Holliday can do.
5. Absolutely bring Wagner back if he wants to return (sounds like he might).

redsoxrules · 11-17-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BoSox21

Well, as it stands today he's the Opening Day SS

wonderfull

Lester82 · 11-19-2009, 02:10 AM

Andy Pettitte will be a reliable no. 3 next year, eh Jackson?

Good luck with that.

Lester82 · 11-19-2009, 02:14 AM

I like Buchholz as the no. 3 on the Red Sox next season.

Knowing full well he's better talent than that, and starting to show it. Isn't it nice to have him and Lester... Jacko, someday the Yankees will develop a top starting pitcher again.