Lester on the block

[example1]

I suppose so BSN but Tampa Bay tends to do pretty well with their moves, so I hate to see them being active in any regard.

[jung]

TB does do pretty well. They are always drafting pitching which tends to make them rich in pitching and there are few teams that can make that claim. I guess that might account for their success rate when it comes to trades as they are one of the few places a team could go to find some pitching.

[cbbosox]

To me it's simple
If the Sox think they can contend next year keep Lester
If not trade him

[jacksonianmarch]

I just dont see the rationale behind dealing from your weakness to add to a strength. If I was Cherington, I only deal Lester if I think I can get a better pitcher

[BSN07]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

I just dont see the rationale behind dealing from your weakness to add to a strength. If I was Cherington, I only deal Lester if I think I can get a better pitcher

Because even with Lester it has the chance of being a bad rotation. Besides I think they could bring someone like Haren and get similar production for the next couple years. They could always re-sign him in 2 years when Myers, Bogaerts, Bradley, Barnes, De la Rosa and Webster are ready to contribute.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by BSN07

Because even with Lester it has the chance of being a bad rotation. Besides I think they could bring someone like Haren and get similar production for the next couple years. They could always re-sign him in 2 years when Myers, Bogaerts, Bradley, Barnes, De la Rosa and Webster are ready to contribute.

As we see with all prospects, though, they aren't a sure thing. Injuries and ineffectiveness limit a lot of these prospects, especially those on the pitching end. You know what you have in terms of workload for Lester. You hope he can pitch to his potential and give you high end innings. And I doubt Haren can do that, especially when his hip and back are issues of contention and he lost velo last yr. Back injuries, mid 30s and lost velocity are bad mixes for starting pitchers

[BSN07]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

As we see with all prospects, though, they aren't a sure thing. Injuries and ineffectiveness limit a lot of these prospects, especially those on the pitching end. You know what you have in terms of workload for Lester. You hope he can pitch to his potential and give you high end innings. And I doubt Haren can do that, especially when his hip and back are issues of contention and he lost velo last yr. Back injuries, mid 30s and lost velocity are bad mixes for starting pitchers

I'm just saying what Lester has done over the last couple years is not irreplaceable. And normally I'm hesitant to want to give up a more proven asset like Lester for prospects. Myers is just a unique situation.

[User Name?]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

As we see with all prospects, though, they aren't a sure thing. Injuries and ineffectiveness limit a lot of these prospects, especially those on the pitching end. You know what you have in terms of workload for Lester. You hope he can pitch to his potential and give you high end innings. And I doubt Haren can do that, especially when his hip and back are issues of contention and he lost velo last yr. Back injuries, mid 30s and lost velocity are bad mixes for starting pitchers

Haren was reasonably effective given his back issues last year. He's also 32, which is still relatively young, not 35 or 36. This is a guy you can gamble on for one year. If at his worst he's going to post 2012 numbers, he'd still be a significant upgrade for the Red Sox rotation.

[jung]

I am not at all convinced that people realize how bad this rotation could be. For one thing Lester is the only guy that has gone innings for a team that has beaten the hell out of its bull pen two years running. While Lester has not provided the kinds of innings you would expect from a 1, he has eaten more innings than anybody they are likely to bring in even on these anticipated one year deals....which I have supported.

[User Name?]

The truth is that no matter what they do for next year, as Lester goes, so goes the starting rotation.

[BSN07]

The Tigers made Anibal Sanchez a contract offer earlier in the offseason worth $48MM over four years, reports Jon Heyman of CBS Sports (Twitter link). According to Heyman, Detroit was informed by Sanchez's agent that such an offer would "insult" the right-hander, who is seeking $90MM for six years

That seems like a reasonable offer. I think LAD is the only team that would give him 90M, and that's only if the miss out on Grienke.

[a700hitter]

Originally Posted by BSN07

That seems like a reasonable offer. I think LAD is the only team that would give him 90M, and that's only if the miss out on Grienke.

If he goes for 4/$60 million, that's not too bad considering the supply ad demand for pitching this off season.

[BSN07]

Originally Posted by a700hitter

If he goes for 4/$60 million, that's not too bad considering the supply ad demand for pitching this off season.

I said I'd be fine seeing the Sox offer 4/60M. I don't know if that will be enough and anything more it starts to get iffy.

[rjortiz]

Tigers offered Sanchez 4/48, which Sanchez's agent called an insult.

[RedSoxNC84]

We won't get Sanchez unless Cherington really opens up the purse, or a miracle happens.. If they don't want to sign someone at more than five years, I doubt we're going to see this guy in a sox uniform.