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Old 01-25-2013, 06:06 AM   #916 (permalink)
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Lars Anderson MiLB career high in homers: 18.

Justin Smoak MiLB career high in homers: 19.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:12 AM   #917 (permalink)
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the whole career.
Ok.

Smoak's eniter pro career - 71 hr's since 08 (47 in MLB )
Lars' entire pro career - 74 hr's since 07 (0 in MLB )

So how does Smoak have less power than Lars?

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Old 01-25-2013, 08:34 AM   #918 (permalink)
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yeah. check the stats.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:45 AM   #919 (permalink)
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OK. I took a look at the data again.

First of all, both these guys suck. That the Red Sox would consider either of them is an indication of where they are right now.

Anderson has more minor league hrs--76 in 6 seasons. Smoak has 24 in 5 seasons. Anderson has about 3x PAs, so HR/PA are slightly higher for Smoak, 36 vs 42. OPS is a standoff .801 vs .788.

Smoak also has 47 HR in 3 major league seasons. Anderson has almost no major league PAs. Smoak's OPS of.683 in the majors is not up to standards for the position.

I doubt the Mariners want to trade Smoak, oddly enough. I guess they figure he will turn into Babe Ruth now they have pulled in their fences. But they have a logjam at DH with Morales and Montero, so he might be expendable--but for what price? They have him as their first baseman right now.

The one thing Anderson has going for him is he was the Red Sox best looking hitter in Ft Myers last spring. A kid looking to break out finally? But no place for him at the time. They can get this kid for nothing right now, so he looks like the better bargain. At least they don't know what he can do in the Majors.

Defensively? I don't know where they stand. Maybe a standoff.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:54 PM   #920 (permalink)
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OK. I took a look at the data again.

First of all, both these guys suck. That the Red Sox would consider either of them is an indication of where they are right now.

Anderson has more minor league hrs--76 in 6 seasons. Smoak has 24 in 5 seasons. Anderson has about 3x PAs, so HR/PA are slightly higher for Smoak, 36 vs 42. OPS is a standoff .801 vs .788.

Smoak also has 47 HR in 3 major league seasons. Anderson has almost no major league PAs. Smoak's OPS of.683 in the majors is not up to standards for the position.

I doubt the Mariners want to trade Smoak, oddly enough. I guess they figure he will turn into Babe Ruth now they have pulled in their fences. But they have a logjam at DH with Morales and Montero, so he might be expendable--but for what price? They have him as their first baseman right now.

The one thing Anderson has going for him is he was the Red Sox best looking hitter in Ft Myers last spring. A kid looking to break out finally? But no place for him at the time. They can get this kid for nothing right now, so he looks like the better bargain. At least they don't know what he can do in the Majors.

Defensively? I don't know where they stand. Maybe a standoff.
Sorry Sox Sport, not this time. Anderson is a three time loser...the Red Sox no longer wanted him, the Indians couldn't find a place for him even though they needed hitting and apparently "Lazy Lars" had such measly value on the open market that that D'Backs simply DFA's him without trying hard to trade him. Smoak is a switch hitting first baseman and get him out of that airport he plays in Seattle and the power would most likely increase. Besides, he has ML experience, Anderson does not, and again, he never fully showed he had what it took when he was in the Red Sox organization. He sure didn't transfer his good Spring last year into a good regular season. I would take a chance on trading f or Smoak before taking "Lazy Lars" back.
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Sorry Sox Sport, not this time. Anderson is a three time loser...the Red Sox no longer wanted him, the Indians couldn't find a place for him even though they needed hitting and apparently "Lazy Lars" had such measly value on the open market that that D'Backs simply DFA's him without trying hard to trade him. Smoak is a switch hitting first baseman and get him out of that airport he plays in Seattle and the power would most likely increase. Besides, he has ML experience, Anderson does not, and again, he never fully showed he had what it took when he was in the Red Sox organization. He sure didn't transfer his good Spring last year into a good regular season. I would take a chance on trading f or Smoak before taking "Lazy Lars" back.
I wouldn't trade any decent prospects for Smoak. They are better off going after Garrett Jones. I can't imagine Smoak being AdGon's LT replacement.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:05 PM   #922 (permalink)
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Encouraging article about Napoli's hip prognosis by his doctor:

http://blogs.providencejournal.com/s...mjQpp0.twitter

Looks like he won't catch again, but the hip is healable and shouldn't affect his play this year, anyways.
You figure him to be fulltime at 1B, so they probably don't need a prime time backup or platoon guy.
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I wouldn't trade any decent prospects for Smoak. They are better off going after Garrett Jones. I can't imagine Smoak being AdGon's LT replacement.
Sox Sport, we agree on that one. No DECENT or top notch prospects for Smoak, but an average one or two in the lower minors and a reliever might work. I think we are on the same page that we cannot count on Gomes to play out there full time. The guy is a defensive tsunami and the idea we should use Nava as his platoon mate leaves me with a painful toothache. Garrett Jones? He'd be better but he would cost us---you do know that? Well we will just have to say what Cherington has up his sleeve on this one, and you know by now what kind of confidence I have in him.
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Encouraging article about Napoli's hip prognosis by his doctor:

http://blogs.providencejournal.com/s...mjQpp0.twitter

Looks like he won't catch again, but the hip is healable and shouldn't affect his play this year, anyways.
You figure him to be fulltime at 1B, so they probably don't need a prime time backup or platoon guy.
That's a very good piece of news Sox Sport. Let's keep our fingers crossed that the good doctor is right on about that.
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Well gptta' credit the Sox for one thing. At least they bulked up in the right places. It appeared that we had an overabundance of OF and C's. So what happens....bang...No more catching for Napoli and we are already down one OF.
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