Shane Victornio? If So Cherington Must Go! - Talksox

Lord Snow · 12-04-2012, 05:34 PM

I swear to god these Shane Victorino rumors at 3-years $38M better be a joke.

Victorino sucks. He's terrible. He is the kind of bat that hurts a line-up, not helps it.

How can Cherington keep his job if he burns $38M on ANOTHER bench player?

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss Theo.

dupree · 12-04-2012, 05:37 PM

Amen!!!

NZSox · 12-04-2012, 05:41 PM

Is the money everyone's biggest issue?

Because the guy stole a career high 39 bases (7th in the Major Leagues) and is pretty good defensively (3 time Golden Glove winner).

Admittedly he had a career low BA last season, I believe around .250...

SCM33 · 12-04-2012, 05:42 PM

Mike Cameron part 2......

Lord Snow · 12-04-2012, 05:44 PM

Fact: 2013 Red Sox will have the highest paid bench in the history of Major League Baseball.

redsoxrules · 12-04-2012, 05:45 PM

Shane Victorino is a full time player

a700hitter · 12-04-2012, 05:53 PM

I don't get this move if this happens. Victorino is very mediocre.

dupree · 12-04-2012, 05:54 PM

In my opinion yes in this situation it does come down to the money.

I had no problem with him in Philly, i thought he was a solid player there. But 38 mil is just a lil much. Supposedly a team has offered him a 4 year deal. I hope he takes that.

I wonder if this is true and all the reports are accerate if he will be Boston's new center fielder and the FO is gonna package Ellsbury into a deal to get a front of the line starting pitcher?

I hope not... i love ellsbury (when healthy) slotted in at leadoff i dont think shane victorino in right and an outfield of Gomes/Kalish, Ellsbury, & Victorino is gonna make a boom in ticket sales.

I like the fact that the FO is trying to change the atmosphere in the clubhouse from the chicken and beer to a more upbeat good hearted guys. But still that dont buy us WINS i guess the FO is just looking to have guys who are in a good mood even when losing 90+ games. I hope all the reports are wrong.

SCM33 · 12-04-2012, 05:55 PM

Why does this make any sense at all? Would Swisher really cost them that much more?

Swisher is bad at 4 years, but Victorino for that money and length is awful.

Mike Cameron signed for 2 years 15.5.
Shane Victorino is looking at 3 and 38?

Its the same player. Once a great defender, aging and declining. Contact numbers have decreased, power numbers has decreased and his batting eye has diminished.

This is a horrible, horrible signing if it goes through.

redsoxrules · 12-04-2012, 05:57 PM

Mike Cameron was 37 . Victorino is 32

SCM33 · 12-04-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by redsoxrules

Mike Cameron was 37 . Victorino is 32

Its the same player.

Do you like the deal?

If not, what is the point of arguing.?

Same skillset. Same decline.....if anything, it reflects poorly on Victorino, he declined way earlier than Cameron.

Laser Show · 12-04-2012, 06:02 PM

Why the hate for Victorino? He's a solid defender, has speed, gets on base (.340 OBP). Looking through his career stats, he appears to be a much cheaper Carl Crawford that switch hits, walks more, and k's less.

SCM33 · 12-04-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Laser Show

Why the hate for Victorino? He's a solid defender, has speed, gets on base (.340 OBP). Looking through his career stats, he appears to be a much cheaper Carl Crawford that switch hits, walks more, and k's less.

His career stats are decent.

Hes been in a decline, and Carl Crawford was a huge mistake, why would they go down that road again?

At 13 million per year, hes hardly a bargain.

My problem is the contract. If we were talking about a 1 year deal, I could care less. This is a bad contract though.

Lord Snow · 12-04-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dupree

In my opinion yes in this situation it does come down to the money.

I had no problem with him in Philly, i thought he was a solid player there. But 38 mil is just a lil much. Supposedly a team has offered him a 4 year deal. I hope he takes that.

I wonder if this is true and all the reports are accerate if he will be Boston's new center fielder and the FO is gonna package Ellsbury into a deal to get a front of the line starting pitcher?

I hope not... i love ellsbury (when healthy) slotted in at leadoff i dont think shane victorino in right and an outfield of Gomes/Kalish, Ellsbury, & Victorino is gonna make a boom in ticket sales.

I like the fact that the FO is trying to change the atmosphere in the clubhouse from the chicken and beer to a more upbeat good hearted guys. But still that dont buy us WINS i guess the FO is just looking to have guys who are in a good mood even when losing 90+ games. I hope all the reports are wrong.

+1 Well stated.

BSN07 · 12-04-2012, 06:19 PM

I'm not overall happy with the terms. But victorino is a decent player and adds some speed to this overall slow roster. If Swisher signs for something similar I will be a bit disappointed but calling for Cherries head is hyperbole. It's a meh move, not great, not bad. Not all deals are slam dunks.