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Steve Nash to win the MVP for the third straight time?


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He didn't deserve the last two so this one would be pretty deserved. He still has way too good of teammates and doesn't play defense. But Gilbert Arenas has some good guys and doesn't play defense. Based on Nash getting two he didn't deserve anyway, I say give Gilbert this one. That guys ridiculous. And funny.
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I think Arenas is very talented, but a bit overrated as a ball player. The guy is one of the worst chucker's I've ever seen. There isn't a look he doesn't like on their side of the court. Literally.

 

Nash makes everyone around him better. By a lot, IMO. I'd have no problem with him winning it again.

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I think Arenas is very talented, but a bit overrated as a ball player. The guy is one of the worst chucker's I've ever seen. There isn't a look he doesn't like on their side of the court. Literally.

 

Nash makes everyone around him better. By a lot, IMO. I'd have no problem with him winning it again.

 

Yeah, I'd agree on Arenas. But when he's on he's devastating. I think he's 10-10 on 30+ foot shots this year. Doesn't really add to anything, just a neat stat if it's true.

 

What gets me about Nash, and has for the past two years, is the fact that he has Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion. Those are two top tier NBA players on your team. And personally, I think Marion is more valuable to the Suns than Nash.

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He didn't deserve the last two so this one would be pretty deserved. He still has way too good of teammates and doesn't play defense. But Gilbert Arenas has some good guys and doesn't play defense. Based on Nash getting two he didn't deserve anyway' date=' I say give Gilbert this one. That guys ridiculous. And funny.[/quote']

 

How did he not deserve it, besides that fact that you like Kobe? His team was 1-11 without him the last two seasons. That speaks volumes.

 

And, of course I'm going to say yes. He is having a career year (again) and his team is 30-8. Why shouldn't he get it?

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How did he not deserve it, besides that fact that you like Kobe? His team was 1-11 without him the last two seasons. That speaks volumes.

 

And, of course I'm going to say yes. He is having a career year (again) and his team is 30-8. Why shouldn't he get it?

 

Steve Nash is the first ever defensive liability to win the MVP. He's as bad on defense as, like, Voshon Lenard -- and Voshon doesn't even pretend to try. Or didn't in Denver, anyway. Nash is a bottom five defender in this League and that's being generous. Kobe made the NBA All-Defensive team! That's one half of the game where Nash is a liability. It's the half that "wins championships". And Kobe excels at it!

 

You think he makes his teammates look better... you should see what he does to the guy he's defending!

 

Luckily this year, Gilbert Arenas sucks at defense too.

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Kobe made the NBA All-Defensive team!

 

He also made the All-NBA pouter team. What happend in Game 7? He pouted and "showed everyone" that the team needs him, and they got blown back to LA. He's a cocky bastard and won't ever win a ring again.

 

This year he has changed his mentailty somewhat, but who knows how long that'll last. And your hearing less and less of the whiners saying Kobe has a weak cast, because his cast is getting NBA quality time under their belts and improving.

 

Anyway, our team was never known for defense, but were improving (relative to the last two years) and our style translates into W's.

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He also made the All-NBA pouter team. What happend in Game 7? He pouted and "showed everyone" that the team needs him, and they got blown back to LA. He's a cocky bastard and won't ever win a ring again.

 

 

thats right ! the only reason he won 3 rings to begin with was because of Shaq ( who is the reason the lakers won it back then )

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thats right ! the only reason he won 3 rings to begin with was because of Shaq ( who is the reason the lakers won it back then )

 

Well honestly, I was starting to believe that they needed each other, but Shaq proved that wrong last year by winning it with Wade. But Kobe needed Shaq more than Shaq needed Kobe.

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Shaq couldn't win without Wade or Kobe.

 

On the other hand, both Wade and Kobe are winning this year without Shaq.

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He also made the All-NBA pouter team. What happend in Game 7? He pouted and "showed everyone" that the team needs him, and they got blown back to LA. He's a cocky bastard and won't ever win a ring again.

 

This year he has changed his mentailty somewhat, but who knows how long that'll last. And your hearing less and less of the whiners saying Kobe has a weak cast, because his cast is getting NBA quality time under their belts and improving.

 

Anyway, our team was never known for defense, but were improving (relative to the last two years) and our style translates into W's.

 

Regular season W's.

 

Regardless. How can anyone who's one of the worst in the league at exactly one half of the game be considered an MVP?

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Regular season W's.

 

Regardless. How can anyone who's one of the worst in the league at exactly one half of the game be considered an MVP?

 

More regular season wins than anyone else. He's not good at defense but he makes his guys better. Jump up and down and tell me how great of a team we have without him but I saw the core of this team (namely Stoudemire and Marion) without a true PG (Barbosa in his rookie year was NOT CLOSE to what he is now) and we were pitiful. We needed a great PG to make us a contender because we had the pieces but NO-ONE in Phoenix expected these results. the media here was hung up on the fact that we got an ex-Sun back and how cool that was. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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well i guess we are seing that the suns arent that great with nash out of the lineup , they have now lost 3 in a row, and also since joining the suns , without nash they are 4-12 , so he is well on his way for a 3rd straight MVP
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More regular season wins than anyone else. He's not good at defense but he makes his guys better. Jump up and down and tell me how great of a team we have without him but I saw the core of this team (namely Stoudemire and Marion) without a true PG (Barbosa in his rookie year was NOT CLOSE to what he is now) and we were pitiful. We needed a great PG to make us a contender because we had the pieces but NO-ONE in Phoenix expected these results. the media here was hung up on the fact that we got an ex-Sun back and how cool that was. Yeah' date=' it's pretty cool.[/quote']

 

agreed, the suns were horrid withou a good PG, I remember back in Kidd days how they were when he sat out or was injured.

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agreed' date=' the suns were horrid withou a good PG, I remember back in Kidd days how they were when he sat out or was injured.[/quote']

 

Oh gosh. When he f***ed up his ankle. Yeah...that was like the dark ages back then. Everyone was like devastated. Just like when Nash got hurt 2 years ago with his back.

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I still have a difficult time giving the MVP to one of the worst defensive players at his position in the League. Defense will always make up half of the game. You can't be a liability on one end and be the MVP, in my mind. Gilbert is the same way, unfortunately... but Dirk may be an All NBA Defensive teamer this year! His offensive numbers aren't as good, though.

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