Steroid use provides an unfair advantage. It can absolutely be random, player X may or may not be juicing, and the only real way to know if he is is by random drug testing. This suits your stance perfectly.Originally Posted by Emmz;489859
Steroid use provides an unfair advantage. It can absolutely be random, player X may or may not be juicing, and the only real way to know if he is is by random drug testing. This suits your stance perfectly.
They violate the game's rules? :lol:
What are you getting at, exactly?
You're in the 'shit happens' camp, but you don't like the idea of extra-high hoops or trick ice?
Again, it's a violation of the league's rules to have extra-high hoops, and trick ice. The NFL has always allowed teams to play outside.
Yeah, and Hockey is played inside to maintain the cold when the weather is too hot to play outside. In the NBA, then you're playing in freezing weather with nothing but shorts and a skimpy jersey, I think that's very different than shoulder pads, Under Armour, knee and thigh pads, helmets, and all that stuff that keeps a player warm. Really J_E?How about we put all the basketball and hockey teams outside then? Freezing rain/snowy NBA or NHL games? Ohfukyea. Remember, random outside occurences.
What? You're continuing to grasp at straws, you don't randomly take steroids because of a natural occurrence due to the environment. Steroids to rain from the heavens into your body and allow you to start playing with an unfair advantage. Also, you can't be trained to play against players with steroids besides using them yourself.
You live in Minnesota and your team is the beneficiary of the crapshoot/shit happens/home field thing. If you were a fan whose team went to Minnesota and lost under such circumstances, your tune would be different.
So change the rules. This isn't about the rules, the rules are meant so that the game can be fair, and baseball and the NFL have done a fine job of butchering that concept, particulary baseball.Again, it's a violation of the league's rules to have extra-high hoops, and trick ice. The NFL has always allowed teams to play outside.
Shit happens.Yeah, and Hockey is played inside to maintain the cold when the weather is too hot to play outside. In the NBA, then you're playing in freezing weather with nothing but shorts and a skimpy jersey, I think that's very different than shoulder pads, Under Armour, knee and thigh pads, helmets, and all that stuff that keeps a player warm. Really J_E?
Show me where I said this.
The pointSteroids to rain from the heavens into your body and allow you to start playing with an unfair advantage.
Your head.
And you don't necessarily know who is and isn't using steroids... just like you're not exactly sure when the crappy, shit happens weather is going to come and steal your season.Also, you can't be trained to play against players with steroids besides using them yourself.
You're questioning my ability to determine what I believe, do to my home state now? Let me tell you what, the only reason I believe this is because I'm from Minnesota, and it really isn't that bad to me, that's the only reason you should be questioning my judgment on this, not because I live there, and I'm beneficiary, that's subject the debate.
So the rules should honestly say "NO OUTDOOR STADIUMS 4 U!"? Why don't you just change the name of it to the Nazi Fascist League. Honestly, if you want to have an outdoor stadium, build it, the rules are there to regulate what happens in the game itself, not the weather.So change the rules. This isn't about the rules, the rules are meant so that the game can be fair, and baseball and the NFL have done a fine job of butchering that concept, particulary baseball.
Filler. No response needed.Shit happens.
Isn't this what I just said? You live in Minnesota, the Vikings supposedly used to thrive in the cold weather, so any unfair advantage gained by cold weather teams is fine with you and the reasoning is simply 'shit happens'.
The rules should dictate that every team's stadium/playing area is uniformly constructed.So the rules should honestly say "NO OUTDOOR STADIUMS 4 U!"? Why don't you just change the name of it to the Nazi Fascist League. Honestly, if you want to have an outdoor stadium, build it, the rules are there to regulate what happens in the game itself, not the weather.
You don't randomly take steroids, it's not a natural occurrence, so why are you comparing it to weather factors? It's only logical to use like comparisonsSteroid use provides an unfair advantage. It can absolutely be random, player X may or may not be juicing, and the only real way to know if he is is by random drug testing. This suits your stance perfectly.
No, it was just a weak "point". Try to use like-factors in comparisons instead of comparing steroid use to... Natural weather occurrences?The point
Your head.
What I said above, use like-factors in comparisons.And you don't necessarily know who is and isn't using steroids... just like you're not exactly sure when the crappy, shit happens weather is going to come and steal your season.
The reasoning is that it's a natural occurrence, and if a team doesn't want to construct a roof, they shouldn't have to, for two main reasons.
1. Why should they? If they see an advantage, exploit it. It's there, and there's no rules against it.
2. It costs a great deal of extra money at taxpayer's expense. The NFL can't tell teams that they need to make a stadium that is more expensive than it needs to be, basically because it'll piss of the people.
You can't control what the stadium is constructed like because it's not part of the playing field. Beyond the field itself, it's all up to the ownership, and I doubt there's anything the NFL could do about that even if they wanted to.The rules should dictate that every team's stadium/playing area is uniformly constructed.
No, it wouldn't. I prefer watching baseball and football games outside. Watching football games in a dome is not my idea of a good time. Games played outside are a helluva lot more aesthetically pleasing. And baseball parks with the same dimensions is also a lame idea. You're too concerned about leveling the playing field and eliminating variables. The climate, the wind, the rain, and the snow are all elements that make games more interesting. Maybe not to you, but then you don't care about a team's history either, so why am I not surprised?
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know. In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws, And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.
Steroid use is random. A player may or may not be taking them. You don't know.
How are they not like factors?No, it was just a weak "point". Try to use like-factors in comparisons instead of comparing steroid use to... Natural weather occurrences?
Both are unfair advantages for a certain team/player. Just because its a natural occurence doesn't mean it isn't an unfair advantage.
No, steroid testing is random, not use. You don't randomly pot yourself with steroids, it's not a natural occurrence, and it's not like the weather.
*Sigh*How are they not like factors?
One is natural, one isn't. One is intentional, one is random.
Irrelevant, they're not like "unfair advantages", even if you view it as an "unfair advantage", so you can't compare them.Both are unfair advantages for a certain team/player. Just because its a natural occurence doesn't mean it isn't an unfair advantage.
Am I right when I say that football was a game meant to be played outside? I think I am.
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Games are plenty interesting when both teams are on a level playing field. Its actually more interesting that way. But you are right, I'm too sensible and down-to-earth to give a shit about history, tradition, and FUN!! being seeped out of sports by the possible inception of common sense.
Oh wait, the Chicago fan coming to Emmz's defense on the matter. hmmmm
Nice job on continuing the condescending trend, it's really appreciated. Just make your case without the added bullshit, it's irritating.
Anyhow, he's right, football's a game that belongs outdoors. It's the way the game was meant to be played.
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