Might as well make the official thread
Overall deal:
Yankees get:
Jose Campos
Michael Pineda
Mariners get:
Jesus Montero
Hector Noesi
Might as well make the official thread
Overall deal:
Yankees get:
Jose Campos
Michael Pineda
Mariners get:
Jesus Montero
Hector Noesi
Hal sucks
I love Pindea, in fact I think with Pineda we got a better rotation than the Sox, still loads behind the Rays, but I really liked Noesi and Montero. I liked both of those guys to have huge years.
1. Sabathia
2. Pineda
3. Nova
4. Garcia
5. Burnett
This also gives the Yankees room to move Burnett while eating contract and then giving Hughes back the #5 spot. I do love the look of the rotation. And the addition of Campos is nice too. He looks to be another power pitcher with a humongous frame. I am coming around to the deal, but giving up on Montero before we can see what he can do for the long haul is tough to swallow
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Any big trade is going to cost a top prospect in your system. We both I think liked Montero a lot cause we saw him and followed him for so long. I watched his video feed of him signing his deal on July 2nd 2006 and checked the box scores for his numbers almost every night after the Yankees game. I'll miss Montero and Noesi but I'm excited about the rotation.Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;720213;
The three locks of CC, Pineda and Nova and Garcia, Burnett and Hughes coming in to battle it out.
Pineda and Kuroda in one night while also adding a high end 19 yr old arm in Campos. Noesi was a candidate for the rotation, but I looked at him more as a Ramiro Mendoza type. Montero is the big loss here, but this rotation just got insanely good, possibly the best in the AL
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I'm not sad to see Montero leave the AL East. Not at all. Pineda is a good pitcher though. Signing Kuroda too kind of sticks in my side.
lolOriginally Posted by jacksonianmarch;720278;
The Angels and Rays are better.
If the Sox grab Oswalt and he remains healthy, the Sox rotation still better.
Yankees were a half run worse in 2011 than both of those teams. The Angels got Wilson, which helps them. The Rays added nobody but subtracted nobody. The Yankees got Pineda and Kuroda AND subtracted AJ Burnett. How is that not seen as a humongous upgrade?Originally Posted by Station 13;720284;
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Sox get oswalt and their rotation is on par with the Yankees.Originally Posted by Station 13;720284;
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told my friend after the deal went down Campos was a steal and that in two years we'll look back at this deal and he'll be the best piece in the deal.YankeeSource Yankees
Some scouts believe Campos was a steal for the Yankees in the deal. "He may be better than Pineda, Noesi or Montero."
You said might be the best. I call bullshit.Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;720291;
Not even close.
They're better. But you're stretching it.
And what is missed here is Pineda's age. He was the starter in the AS game as a 22 yr old rookie. He is likely to get significantly better.
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Yeah man I got to agree the Rays and Angels rotations are better, but 3rd best rotation with the best lineup and best bullpen in the AL is nothing to shoot down.Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;720298;
Lets be honest. Moving from the AL West to the AL East is a huge jump. Any progressions he makes from last year will be offset by the powerful and patient AL East hitters. I would say his numbers will almost certainly regress from last year, even if he does become a better pitcher.Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;720298;
He would have been about a 4.30-4.35 last year in NY. Hector Noesi posted a 4.47 ERA, and had a 99 ERA+, so I think 4.30-4.35 would be about right for the translation of Pineda.
Haha, where's the chart!
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Jim Callis says he would have ranked Jose Campos as the Yankees 5th prospect on BA's top 10 list.