Pineda, Fully Loaded

[Carter]

Guilty as sin

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/e...ox-4-11-041014

[jacksonianmarch]

There's a reason why the sox didn't complain about it, they do it too! Eck on the post game said it didn't bother him that a player used pine tar to get a better grip, he just said it's usually not as blatant. I remember when another pitcher was caught using it a few yrs back and opposing hitters had stated they were fine with it since it meant a better grip and less balls in their earholes.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Don't worry, it was just dirt. He doesn't need pine tar, because he's "got his stuff back"







.....after a few starts.

[rjortiz]

The players don't seem to care about pine tar. If they don't think it matters, that's good enough for me.

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/..._pine_tar.html

Where was the outrage at Buchholz and Lester from the Blue Jays, and especially the Cardinals?

[Navafan29]

But how much pine tar was he using? Isn't it bad for him to use such an obvious amount?

[rjortiz]

But how much pine tar was he using? Isn't it bad for him to use such an obvious amount?

I am not an expert on the physics of the interaction of baseballs and the amount of pine tar used on them. The players involved in this story do not care about it, which suggests the effect is not noticeable.

[Bellhorn04]

There's a reason why the sox didn't complain about it, they do it too! Eck on the post game said it didn't bother him that a player used pine tar to get a better grip, he just said it's usually not as blatant. I remember when another pitcher was caught using it a few yrs back and opposing hitters had stated they were fine with it since it meant a better grip and less balls in their earholes.

Exactly, that's a big part of it. I heard former catcher Gregg Zaun say this when he was covering a game where there was some controversy about it.

[yankthis]

Rosin/Pine Tar/Whatever. Who cares.

[Carter]

I am not an expert on the physics of the interaction of baseballs and the amount of pine tar used on them. The players involved in this story do not care about it, which suggests the effect is not noticeable.

You can't be that naïve rjortiz.....how players feel and what they say for print are two different things. You can bet your ass opposing managers will be watching Pineda like a hawk for the rest of the season.

[rjortiz]

You can't be that naïve rjortiz.....how players feel and what they say for print are two different things. You can bet your ass opposing managers will be watching Pineda like a hawk for the rest of the season.

I see. It's a conspiracy. We need to keep our feelings a secret, because we can't let anyone know how we plan to complain to our manager, which will lead to a big story when pine tar use is seen again, and then we will have to keep our feelings to ourselves again!

[Station 13]

Shit, that's excessive usage of the stuff. He should get thrown out for that like Peralta did. Everybody use it, not every excessively is cover in brown shit.

[rjortiz]

Shit, that's excessive usage of the stuff. He should get thrown out for that like Peralta did. Everybody use it, not every excessively is cover is brown shit.

That incident reveals how ridiculous the controversy is in the first place.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...M8oV_blog.html

[SoxSport]

The Yankees are so desperate to get into the playoffs they will try anything. LOL.

[Station 13]

There's a reason why the sox didn't complain about it, they do it too! Eck on the post game said it didn't bother him that a player used pine tar to get a better grip, he just said it's usually not as blatant. I remember when another pitcher was caught using it a few yrs back and opposing hitters had stated they were fine with it since it meant a better grip and less balls in their earholes.

a little stuff is fine and all, not when his entire palm is coated with it. Was there a babe he was rubbing down or was he wacking off in between innings?

[Station 13]

You can't be that naïve rjortiz.....how players feel and what they say for print are two different things. You can bet your ass opposing managers will be watching Pineda like a hawk for the rest of the season.

He's on noticed. if he had a tiny bit, nobody would remember it after his next start. Since he stupidly got busted with lots of it, you can bet umpires will watch. Especially this is the 2nd straight start he was smeared with it.