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Thread: 4 Former red sox International Prospects Sign Elsewhere

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    4 Former red sox International Prospects Sign Elsewhere

    After getting busted for trying to circumvent international signing rules, 4 former red sox international prospects sign elsewhere.

    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/188051...cts-moving-on/

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    Of course the Yankees would grab a player that would cheat the system like that.
    Fire Farrell - fucking check mark!
    Trade Pedroia
    Sign JD Martinez to play 1B/DH
    Sign Alex Cora for MGR - check plus!

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    Can someone explain to me in non-financially-technical language exactly what the Red Sox did wrong? I know little to nothing about the financial side of baseball so I'm curious as to how annoyed I should be with my favorite team in this instance.


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    Outfielder Albert Guaimaro has agreed to a deal with the Marlins, outfielder Simon Muzziott signed with the Phillies for $750,000, infielder Antonio Pinero signed with the Brewers for $375,000 and infielder Eduardo Torrealba signed with the Yankees for $300,000. Torrealba has already begun his first steroids cycle under the Yankees tutelage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youk Of The Nation View Post
    Can someone explain to me in non-financially-technical language exactly what the Red Sox did wrong? I know little to nothing about the financial side of baseball so I'm curious as to how annoyed I should be with my favorite team in this instance.
    they overpaid the agents for suckier players. the agents gave the extra cash to the international players. thus circumventing the $300k max threshold....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youk Of The Nation View Post
    Can someone explain to me in non-financially-technical language exactly what the Red Sox did wrong? I know little to nothing about the financial side of baseball so I'm curious as to how annoyed I should be with my favorite team in this instance.
    There's a lot of discussion of this in the main prospect thread starting around here:
    http://www.talksox.com/forum/threads...-Thread/page23
    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youk Of The Nation View Post
    Can someone explain to me in non-financially-technical language exactly what the Red Sox did wrong? I know little to nothing about the financial side of baseball so I'm curious as to how annoyed I should be with my favorite team in this instance.
    Per MLBTR: However, Boston circumvented that limitation by “packaging” more premium prospects with lesser prospects; that is, paying $300K for multiple prospects that employ the same trainers/agents and then allowing the players’ representatives to divide the lion’s share of the collective sums to the top prospect of the bunch, with the lesser prospects receiving a smaller portion of the money.

    Basically, they cheated the system to overpay certain prospects.

    Ex. if they could only pay $300K for a prospect, they gave $600K to two prospects and had their trainers split it $500K to one prospect and $100K to the other prospect.
    Fire Farrell - fucking check mark!
    Trade Pedroia
    Sign JD Martinez to play 1B/DH
    Sign Alex Cora for MGR - check plus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Of course the Yankees would grab a player that would cheat the system like that.
    Umm, it was the sawx that cheated, not the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    Torrealba has already begun his first steroids cycle under the Yankees tutelage.
    Nah, when he was originally signed by the sawx he immediately started on big papi's "milkshakes"

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    I reserve my right to change my opinion on all of this and proclaim the whole affair an appalling miscarriage of justice, if not an outright anti-Boston conspiracy, if any of these kid actually turn out to be good.
    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBabeStrikesBack View Post
    Umm, it was the sawx that cheated, not the players.
    The players have the same responsibility here. They are at fault just as much as the team.

    TO THINK THE YANKEES WOULD PICK UP A SCOUNDREL THAT WOULD TRY TO BEND THE RULES LIKE THAT! ABSURD!
    Fire Farrell - fucking check mark!
    Trade Pedroia
    Sign JD Martinez to play 1B/DH
    Sign Alex Cora for MGR - check plus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    The players have the same responsibility here. They are at fault just as much as the team.

    TO THINK THE YANKEES WOULD PICK UP A SCOUNDREL THAT WOULD TRY TO BEND THE RULES LIKE THAT! ABSURD!
    Then how come the sawx were sanctioned and the players weren't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBabeStrikesBack View Post
    Then how come the sawx were sanctioned and the players weren't?
    But Ortiz was never sanctioned and you've called him a cheater?
    Fire Farrell - fucking check mark!
    Trade Pedroia
    Sign JD Martinez to play 1B/DH
    Sign Alex Cora for MGR - check plus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    The players have the same responsibility here. They are at fault just as much as the team.

    TO THINK THE YANKEES WOULD PICK UP A SCOUNDREL THAT WOULD TRY TO BEND THE RULES LIKE THAT! ABSURD!
    I really doubt these 16-17 year old kids have as much responsibility as the team, agents, etc. in this.
    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    But Ortiz was never sanctioned and you've called him a cheater?
    Never called him a cheater.

    And none of the players on the 03 list were sanctioned.

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