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Thread: 4 Former red sox International Prospects Sign Elsewhere

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    So what exactly did you say? Stop being a weasel about it.
    I said that I believe PEDs were not against the rules in 03 when he was named on the list.

    Or you could have simply read my previous posts to see what I said instead of being lazy.

  2. #32
    He's not being lazy. You are just a jackass.
    We miss you Mike.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by User Name? View Post
    He's not being lazy. You are just a jackass.
    Gfu!!

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    So what exactly did you say? Stop being a weasel about it.
    I'm just glad that my nonsense got him to admit that Ortiz isn't a cheater and did nothing wrong. Guess we won't have to hear him talk about Ortiz's milkshakes or eyedrops anymore? You're welcome, Talksox!
    Rafael Devers' current OPS - .924.

    Bring him up!

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Youk Of The Nation View Post
    You go to a kid who grew up in Cuba or the slums of the Dominican Republic and try to take money back from him. I'm sure as hell not volunteering for that job.
    Hell I'm not even saying to take money away from them, maybe donating some of the additional signing. They were involving in a cheating scandal... Why do they somehow end up with MORE money afterwards ? Am I the only one who finds that strange ?

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I'm just glad that my nonsense got him to admit that Ortiz isn't a cheater and did nothing wrong. Guess we won't have to hear him talk about Ortiz's milkshakes or eyedrops anymore? You're welcome, Talksox!
    I never said he wasn't a cheater.

  7. #37
    Cardinals finally get fined for hack on Astros:

    http://mashable.com/2017/01/30/houst...I#ozZSCQJA5SqJ

  8. #38
    Cards lose a se cond and third round pick and some money for hacking the 'Stros.

    We lose 5 prospects and get a two year ban on international signings for what we did.

    Am I missing something?

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Cards lose a se cond and third round pick and some money for hacking the 'Stros.

    We lose 5 prospects and get a two year ban on international signings for what we did.

    Am I missing something?
    I'd rather lose the guys we did than a 2nd and 3rd rounder. Also, I don't believe we were "banned" from international signings, just that we could not sign guys subject to bonus pools.

    You could also say that the Cardinals guy was a rogue employee whereas the Sox was an organizational decision.
    Rafael Devers' current OPS - .924.

    Bring him up!

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I'd rather lose the guys we did than a 2nd and 3rd rounder. Also, I don't believe we were "banned" from international signings, just that we could not sign guys subject to bonus pools.

    You could also say that the Cardinals guy was a rogue employee whereas the Sox was an organizational decision.
    Good points, but I seriously doubt nobody else knew about the how that "rogue" employee got his information. Just my opinion.

    I will say that the ban on players "subject to the bonus pool" was still significant.

    We got some awesome players through the international market recently: we often paid penalties for going over the allotted pool limit, but at least we got to sign some top prospects.

    Moncada
    Devers
    Margot
    Bogaerts


  11. #41
    Here's a look at some recent draft vs international signings periods:

    2014:
    Draft: Kopech, Travis, Chavis, Ockimey
    Int'l: Moncada, Espinoza, Castillo, C Acosta

    2013:
    Draft: TBall, T Stanki
    Int'l: Devers, J Diaz, Y Abar, Hinojosa

    2012:
    Draft: B Johnson, Marrero, P Light
    Int'l: J Almonte, W Rijo, V Acosta

    2011:
    Draft: Betts, JBJ, Swihart, Barnes, Shaw, Owens
    Int'l: Margot, Pimental, T-W Lin

    2010:
    Draft: Ranaudo, Brentz, Workman, Vitek
    Int'l: J Aro, J Linares

    2009:
    Draft: A Wilson, R Fuentes, A Hassan
    Int'l: Bogaerts, Iggy, F Montas


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