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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Well, the vast majority of CB;s numbers in NY came in the last two years, and besides, the Sox pitching was better prior to the purge of 2012.
    How has Red Sox pitching been versus Yankee pitching throughout the years, not just the last three. You pitted the possibility of not facing Yankee pitching at Yankee stadium against facing Red Sox pitching at Fenway. Again you can't use 3 years of stats to support the argument that you made using career numbers.
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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

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    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    How has Red Sox pitching been versus Yankee pitching throughout the years, not just the last three. You pitted the possibility of not facing Yankee pitching at Yankee stadium against facing Red Sox pitching at Fenway. Again you can't use 3 years of stats to support the argument that you made using career numbers.
    I used career numbers, because most of the ones from Yankee stadium were in the last 3 years. Comparing them to the career numbers from Fenway was not a good comp. You are right.

    Since CB is not the CB of his prime, a better comp would have been the last 3 years at each park, although the Fenway numbers would be a much smaller sample size:

    OPS
    Year @NY @ BOS
    2016 .961 (201 PAs)/.250 (just 8 PAs)
    2015 .786 (272 PAs)/ 1.065 (21 PAs)
    2014 .772 (238 PAs)/ 1.206 (28 PAs)

    These sample sizes prove nothing, but they certainly don't prove CB has been a better hitter in NY than in BOS over the last 3 years.

    Now that CB is with HOU, and the cost was probably too high for us, even if it was a good deal, let's move on.

    I'm glad he's on the Astros, and the Yanks got MH.


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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I used career numbers, because most of the ones from Yankee stadium were in the last 3 years. Comparing them to the career numbers from Fenway was not a good comp. You are right.

    Since CB is not the CB of his prime, a better comp would have been the last 3 years at each park, although the Fenway numbers would be a much smaller sample size:

    OPS
    Year @NY @ BOS
    2016 .961 (201 PAs)/.250 (just 8 PAs)
    2015 .786 (272 PAs)/ 1.065 (21 PAs)
    2014 .772 (238 PAs)/ 1.206 (28 PAs)

    These sample sizes prove nothing, but they certainly don't prove CB has been a better hitter in NY than in BOS over the last 3 years.

    Now that CB is with HOU, and the cost was probably too high for us, even if it was a good deal, let's move on.

    I'm glad he's on the Astros, and the Yanks got MH.

    Sure, let's move on. Youwere the one trying to make some point with the stats. I just don't think that your stats adequately backed up your argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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