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    JBj vs Ellsbury Tracker - 2017

    I started a thread for the past 3 years since the Evil Empire signed Jacoby Ellsbury. There were some posters on BDC (and I'm sure on TalkSox) that thought the Red Sox FO should have outbid the Yankees for Ellsbury. I was adamant that we made the correct decision in letting him walk. The plan is to compare the daily stats game by game of the 2 starting center fielders.
    2014 matched up Ells v Sizemore.
    2015 matchup was Ells v Mookie.
    2016 matchup was Ells v JBj

    JBj is coming off a dominating beatdown of Ellsbury in 2016.

    This tracker will run very similar to previous years matchup with scoring and day-to-day stats. As always I am more than happy to review a particular day if a fellow poster disagrees with my ruling.

    Good luck to both participants. (well, not really. i hope JE gets smoked again).

    2015 Final Tally:

    MB: 74.5 ST (Slasher Tracker) score / 6.0 WAR

    JE: 48.0 ST score / 1.9 WAR


    2016 Final Tally:

    JBj: 87 ST (Slasher Tracker) score / 5.3 WAR

    JE: 56 ST score / 2.8 WAR


    JBj: $547,000
    JE: $21,142,857

    2015 & 2016 Combined:

    MB/JBj: 161.5 ST score / 11.3 WAR

    JE: 104 ST score / 4.7 WAR

    MB/JBj: $1,061,500
    JE: $42,285,714
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    Game 1 - JBj

    JBj: 1-3 / BB / RS
    JE: 0-3 / HBP

    JBj: 1
    JE: 0
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    JBJ should have double earned points for that CF catch.
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    And to think... there's only 4-5 more seasons of this thread left to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emp9 View Post
    And to think... there's only 4-5 more seasons of this thread left to go.
    Maybe the Yanks will pick up that team option in 2021!
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Well in defense of JE he does know how to hand out free tacos.

    That has to add up.
    "Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.


    "It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Maybe the Yanks will pick up that team option in 2021!
    ugh... I still like Ells, but... so much money. I still have the vision of him stealing home vs Pettitte(?) god knows when.

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    I always saw Ellsbury as someone who was going to leave, never became a big fan of his.

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    Watching JBJ in the minors was enough to let me say goodbye to JE. I really liked him and still do. Just a little to fragile for me. just glad to see JBJ really becoming the player it looked like he was going to become. I think that he will just keep getting better as we move forward.

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    I wanted to keep Ellsbury, but not for the money he wanted and got from the Yankees, who overpaid because of the departure of Cano and Ellsbury's very misleading but spectacular 2011 season. No doubt they thought the short porch in RF would also help.

    I also wasn't that much of a Bradley fan in 2015 but agreed with the Sox decision to keep giving him shots with the big club--which finally paid off I think in August when he caught fire at the plate.

    The giant irony of the 2016 season is that the defensive stalwart JBJ came much, much closer to Ellsbury's 2011 offensive stats than Ellsbury did.

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    And I give a huge pat on the back to all 10 Sox fans worldwide that exuded patience during that transition...

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    Game 2 - JBj

    JBj: 2-4/ BB / RS / SB
    JE: 2-4 / RS

    JBj: 2
    JE: 0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    I wanted to keep Ellsbury, but not for the money he wanted and got from the Yankees, who overpaid because of the departure of Cano and Ellsbury's very misleading but spectacular 2011 season. No doubt they thought the short porch in RF would also help.

    I also wasn't that much of a Bradley fan in 2015 but agreed with the Sox decision to keep giving him shots with the big club--which finally paid off I think in August when he caught fire at the plate.

    The giant irony of the 2016 season is that the defensive stalwart JBJ came much, much closer to Ellsbury's 2011 offensive stats than Ellsbury did.
    I recall this being the majority opinion. The Yankees grossly overpaid and we should not have tried to match that offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emp9 View Post
    And I give a huge pat on the back to all 10 Sox fans worldwide that exuded patience during that transition...
    Thank you - as one who has believed in him, I accept that pat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cp176 View Post
    Thank you - as one who has believed in him, I accept that pat.
    You're welcome, fellow 1/10th LOL

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