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    I think Velazquez has moved in front of Owens in terms of SP pitching depth. Thus, Owens would be dumped from the 40-man before Velazquez. But Owens might be a higher priority than guys like Ysla and Martin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fan_since_Boggs View Post
    I think Velazquez has moved in front of Owens in terms of SP pitching depth. Thus, Owens would be dumped from the 40-man before Velazquez. But Owens might be a higher priority than guys like Ysla and Martin.
    Velazquez was already ahead of Owens.

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    Fister is not on the 40 man????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudboy View Post
    Fister is not on the 40 man????
    He is on the 40 man.

    My list was of possible players who could be traded or DFA'd (removed from the 40 man roster) if we had to add someone to the 40 man roster, like with a trade or wanting to add Devers before September.


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    Velazquez pitched another gem this afternoon, won 1-0. 7 innings 4 hits, and only 1 BB. ERA down to 1.48. He should be given a shot again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OH FOY! View Post
    Velazquez pitched another gem this afternoon, won 1-0. 7 innings 4 hits, and only 1 BB. ERA down to 1.48. He should be given a shot again.
    He does find a way to do that to AAA batters.

    I like the guy and agree that he should and probably will have another try with the Sox this season.

    I am not so sure that he has enough "stuff" to face a steady diet of MLB batters as a starter.
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    I'll take ERod over Fister and Velazquez.

    I hope we never need to try Velazquez again.

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    Great start from Ball today: 7 IP, 1 ER, 3 H, 0 BB, 7 K. Whenever Ball has performed really well, he follows it up with a clunker. Let's hope he can string two outstanding starts together this time.

    Sandoval: 0 for 4 in AAA today -- his numbers in AAA aren't any good. If the guy can't hit in AAA, there is no reason to think he will hit in the major leagues. He looks like toast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fan_since_Boggs View Post
    Great start from Ball today: 7 IP, 1 ER, 3 H, 0 BB, 7 K. Whenever Ball has performed really well, he follows it up with a clunker. Let's hope he can string two outstanding starts together this time.

    Sandoval: 0 for 4 in AAA today -- his numbers in AAA aren't any good. If the guy can't hit in AAA, there is no reason to think he will hit in the major leagues. He looks like toast.
    It doesn't matter what Pablo hits. He can't field his position.
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    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    It doesn't matter what Pablo hits. He can't field his position.
    And since HRam can't play 1B, there's not even a slot for Pablo to DH, even if he could hit.

    Cut Pablo loose.

    Just rip the Band Aid off.

    Lin & Marrero can carry us to the trade deadline... maybe even beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    And since HRam can't play 1B, there's not even a slot for Pablo to DH, even if he could hit.

    Cut Pablo loose.

    Just rip the Band Aid off.

    Lin & Marrero can carry us to the trade deadline... maybe even beyond.
    Cutting him loose is almost as inevitable as releasing Allen Craig.
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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Great start from Ball today: 7 IP, 1 ER, 3 H, 0 BB, 7 K. Whenever Ball has performed really well, he follows it up with a clunker. Let's hope he can string two outstanding starts together this time.

    Quick... trade 'em before his stock falls...

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fan_since_Boggs View Post
    Great start from Ball today: 7 IP, 1 ER, 3 H, 0 BB, 7 K. Whenever Ball has performed really well, he follows it up with a clunker. Let's hope he can string two outstanding starts together this time.

    Sandoval: 0 for 4 in AAA today -- his numbers in AAA aren't any good. If the guy can't hit in AAA, there is no reason to think he will hit in the major leagues. He looks like he likes toast.
    Fixed that for you Buddy.
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    No walks, fantastic. He has to learn to pitch to contact. Cut the walks down. Not overpowering, has to command the plate. 23 now, only in Double AA, his time is running out. He repeated A+ ball, not a good sign. Always more hits than innings pitched every year.

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    The sox missed big time on this pick. Everything I read about him at the time of the draft had him with a mid 90s fastball and instead he shows up and is this pusballing lefty without command. To think he was picked well before Judge in the same year...
    Hal sucks

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