"Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.
"It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."
Many prospects who beat up on A/AA and even AAA pitchers flame out in MLB. My guess is that there is a similar, if not a lesser flame out rate for foreign players who played several years in other countries.
You rarely get a chance to sign some other team's minor league players putting up big numbers. It's much easier to gauge value of players in the minors vs college. I'm thinking it's easier to scout foreign players than HS or college players, because the competition is a little more known and consistent. The opponents HS and college players face are wildly sporadic and un-measurable.
This makes no sense. When the player is 25+ years old, he is no longer considered a MLB prospect. Its not easier to scout foreign players, thats why so few of them actually produce. Much easier to scout a collegiate player, since that's what they have always done. Foreign amateur competition is impossible to scout, since its no where near the competition in the collegiate levels.
You still didn't quote correctly and everything is bold, not sure if you said it, or someone else did.
I'm hoping we can score with some international free agents,
Without them and the players we got by trading some of them, it's hard to imagine where we'd be right now without them.
Many were not from the D. R. Many were.
Devers (DR)
Bogey (Aruba)
Moncada (Cuba) centerpiece of Sale Trade
Espinoza (Venezuela) got us Pomeranz
Margot (DR) centerpiece for Kimbrel trade
Basabe brothers (Venezuela) traded away
Hector Velazquez (Mexico)
Lin (Taiwan)
Castillo (Cuba)
Current IFA prospects:
Mata (Venezuela)
D Diaz (Venezuela)
D Hernandez (Venezuela)
This post really has nothing to do with the rest of the thread up to that point...
Agreed...the international market is simply another avenue of finding talent, and one that any club would be foolish not to take advantage of to the best of their abilities and resources. Naturally some misses are going to come with the territory - no different from the domestic draft, where you can drop a big bonus on a Mark Appel (or a Trey Ball) and watch them flame out, and where it's understood that only a small percentage are ever going to amount to anything significant.
One could argue the IFA market has been our best area of team building over the last 4-6 years.
We've bombed on most big FA signings.
Our drafts have not been all that great since 2011 with 2014 looking better than it did a while back.
Oh, I see you AND moonslav came from http://bostonredsoxforum.freeforums.net/ HAHAHAHAHAAH Nowwwwwwww I get it.......
"Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.
"It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."
That's what I thought.
Listen, dude, I don't know you...been posting here almost 2 years now and have never had a hint of a personal issue with anyone until you traipsed in with whatever this internet tough guy bullshit is. If you have an issue with something I've posted and want to discuss it, then I'm around...but if substance-free insult attempts like the post I'm replying to are your thing, then knock yourself out, but I'll not be playing that game. Good night to you.
Internet tough guy does not describe me, and bullshit certainly doesn't.
Don't think that you and your boy moonslav are going to tag team me without me being able to figure out what is going on. You have no idea what I do or know, just by querying your username
If that was an attempt at an apology, then it is accepted. Still waiting on moonslav's.
I don't know where you see an apology in there, but whatever you need to tell yourself to get by.
Detente, though? That I'm always down for.
Not tag-teaming anyone, I assure you...I'm something of a lone wolf myself.
And feel free to query away, if you want to go down that rabbit hole.