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Thread: The Bullpen thread

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by OH FOY! View Post
    Holds are more important than Saves to me. 1 Reliever comes in with a 99 % with no Runners on base the other in critical situations. With the hold situation you need a Strike thrower, walks or throwing to hitter counts will kill you.
    I am not a fan of either the Hold or the Save stat.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonbay44 View Post
    But at the same time, it's not really fair to the bullpen guy if he comes in with the bases loaded and no one out, and induces a GIDP, and a run scores, and he be charged with anything.
    Once again, DRA. It's a relatively new stat so it hasn't caugtht on yet (and may never catch on), but it takes all of that into account. Its creators know that giving up a run on a bases loaded GIDP is not the same as giving up a run on a 2 out, man on 1B double.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Emp9 View Post
    This is true. I wouldn't charge him anything for that. MLB has ppl to keep track of that though, i would think. If they have people to figure out a non-typical Save (tying run reaches the on-deck circle), they could figure this out.
    One of the reasons that I'm not a fan of the Save stat. I remember Papelbon being charged with a blown save in a similar situation in the postseason.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    One of the reasons that I'm not a fan of the Save stat. I remember Papelbon being charged with a blown save in a similar situation in the postseason.
    Just plain stupid. The classic example for me is the blown save Rivera got tagged with in 2004 Game 5.

  5. #35
    Team Relief Pitcher Rankings:

    WAR
    4.7 HOU
    4.3 LAD
    4.0 CLE
    3.8 LAA
    3.8 BOS
    3.7 TOR
    3.6 NYY

    WHIP
    1.10 LAD
    1.15 CLE, CWS, HOU
    1.16 LAA
    1.19 TOR, Cubs
    1.20 NYY
    1.21 BOS

    ERA-
    57 CLE
    64 BOS
    72 LAD
    74 AZ
    75 NYY
    76 Cubs
    79 CWS


    xFIP
    3.45 HOU
    3.52 CLE
    3.64 LAD
    3.70 AZ
    3.82 BOS
    3.85 Cubs
    3.89 NYY

    K/BB
    3.8 LAD
    3.7 HOU
    3.6 LAA
    3.3 CLE
    3.1 TOT
    3.1 BOS
    2.9 AZ
    2.8 CWS
    2.7 NYY



  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Team Relief Pitcher Rankings:

    WAR
    4.7 HOU
    4.3 LAD
    4.0 CLE
    3.8 LAA
    3.8 BOS
    3.7 TOR
    3.6 NYY

    WHIP
    1.10 LAD
    1.15 CLE, CWS, HOU
    1.16 LAA
    1.19 TOR, Cubs
    1.20 NYY
    1.21 BOS

    ERA-
    57 CLE
    64 BOS
    72 LAD
    74 AZ
    75 NYY
    76 Cubs
    79 CWS


    xFIP
    3.45 HOU
    3.52 CLE
    3.64 LAD
    3.70 AZ
    3.82 BOS
    3.85 Cubs
    3.89 NYY

    K/BB
    3.8 LAD
    3.7 HOU
    3.6 LAA
    3.3 CLE
    3.1 TOT
    3.1 BOS
    2.9 AZ
    2.8 CWS
    2.7 NYY


    Where would we be without Kimbrell?

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    Where would we be without Kimbrell?
    Third place?

  8. #38
    Considering that the Sox are missing key arms from their bullpen the production has been pretty good. T-burg is done for the year, and am not sure when or if Smith is going to pitch. With that said, not sure bullpen production can keep up this pace.

  9. #39
    Joe Kelly to DL. well... that sucks

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by StephenCurry30 View Post
    Joe Kelly to DL. well... that sucks
    I just read that. That's huge. Workman up I think.

    It's a good sign that Scott looked good last night.

    im sure DD is after RP, but our bullpen is starting to take in water.
    Everybody here is out of sight
    They don't bark, and they don't bite
    They keep things loose, they keep things light
    Everybody was dancin' in the moonlight

  11. #41
    Man, these pen injuries are killing us.

    I'm almost certain that a pen arm is a high priority at the deadline (or before).

  12. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonbay44 View Post
    But at the same time, it's not really fair to the bullpen guy if he comes in with the bases loaded and no one out, and induces a GIDP, and a run scores, and he be charged with anything.

    The reliever wouldn't be charged in that case....

  13. #43
    Kimbrel serving up meatballs in the 9th?

  14. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    The reliever wouldn't be charged in that case....
    In his hypothetical scenario of that stat, they would be.

  15. #45
    Why is a bad pitcher like abad still on this team?

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