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    I know one thing, if we signed Cobb for this much it would definitely be called an 'overpay'. He got more than MLBTR predicted, which was 4/48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I know one thing, if we signed Cobb for this much it would definitely be called an 'overpay'. He got more than MLBTR predicted, which was 4/48.
    I hear the O's put him through a rigorous physical, not that it prevents future injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I know one thing, if we signed Cobb for this much it would definitely be called an 'overpay'. He got more than MLBTR predicted, which was 4/48.
    You know, if we didn't sign Moreland, Cobb, Holt, Xander, JBJ and let Hanley's option vest we coulda signed Machado and Harper!

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    Would going into 2018 with HRam, Swihart and Travis as our only 1B options been all that much worse than now?

    Would having $11M, instead of $4.5M, to spend this summer been worth more than Moreland?

    If we end up needing a 1Bman, how hard is it to find one mis season? Last year, I think about 10 were traded- most for close to dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Would going into 2018 with HRam, Swihart and Travis as our only 1B options been all that much worse than now?
    Would Moreland, JD, Swihart and Travis been all that much worse than now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Would Moreland, JD, Swihart and Travis been all that much worse than now?
    Yes, unless we got some salary relief for losing HRam.

    I think HRam has a much better shot at being over .800 than any other current 1Bman.

    (I don't like the idea of moving the fragile JD to 1B.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Yes, unless we got some salary relief for losing HRam.

    I think HRam has a much better shot at being over .800 than any other current 1Bman.

    (I don't like the idea of moving the fragile JD to 1B.)
    Is JD more fragile than Hanley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    He was terrific in 2010 and most of 2011.

    The weird thing about 2011 was that virtually the entire pitching staff collapsed in September.
    The weird thing about Bard is that his career was only 4 years long, but people talk about his collapse like it came after a long history of success and therefore was clearly some sort of management blunder. ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    The weird thing about Bard is that his career was only 4 years long, but people talk about his collapse like it came after a long history of success and therefore was clearly some sort of management blunder. ..
    Yes, it's an inflexible maxim of sports fans that if there's any way a finger of blame can be pointed, it will be pointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Is JD more fragile than Hanley?
    Probably not, but I'd like to keep him at DH not 1B so as to not risk injury.

    I'd prefer HRam at 1B vs LHPs, for sure, over Moreland and Swihart.

    Vs. RHPs, it's kind of up in the air, but I'd start with Moreland, until HRam or Swihart show me they deserve it more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Yes, it's an inflexible maxim of sports fans that if there's any way a finger of blame can be pointed, it will be pointed.
    One could blame it on Bard's own desire to be a starter.

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    https://www.fangraphs.com/plays.aspx...Red%20Sox&dh=0

    Bard's last start:

    walk
    walk
    HR
    walk
    double play
    fly out

    walk
    walk
    strikeout
    strikeout
    hit by pitch
    walk
    hit by pitch

    A real thing of beauty... I still remember where I was while this was happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    https://www.fangraphs.com/plays.aspx...Red%20Sox&dh=0

    Bard's last start:

    walk
    walk
    HR
    walk
    double play
    fly out

    walk
    walk
    strikeout
    strikeout
    hit by pitch
    walk
    hit by pitch

    A real thing of beauty... I still remember where I was while this was happening.
    The men's room?

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    I feel bad for the guy. How frustrating would it be for a pitcher to suddenly not be able to throw the ball over the plate?

    Hopefully life after baseball is treating him well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    The men's room?
    http://www.maguiresbarandgrill.com/

    I had parmesan truffle fries, a bar pizza with jalapenos and black olives, and a Smithwick's.

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