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    Quote Originally Posted by baseball jones View Post
    who cares about anyone on the yankees!
    !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    It wasn’t aimed at you actually, even though I responded to your post. There’s eternal optimism with the sox and pessimism towards the rival. It’s funny
    In case you weren't aware, this is a Red Sox board.

    We're allowed to be optimistic about our team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Did you just put Devers in the same class as Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle? You aren’t the same guy who said Lars Anderson would be a 20 time all star, are you?
    https://www.mlb.com/news/ozzie-albie...ry/c-264419106

    stanton did make the list also
    Last edited by baseball jones; 01-12-2018 at 07:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    Returning to a career season? No.

    We are talking about regressing to the mean.

    Mookie's career slash line is .292/.351/.488. Last year, he hit .264/.344/.459. Mookie is likely to regress this year and hit closer to that career line.

    FTR, regression does not mean that if you flip a coin 100 times and you get 80 heads, that in the next 100 flips you will only get 20 heads to 'balance out' the 80 heads. It means that in the next 100 flips the number of heads that you get will be much closer to the expected number of 50.

    Kimmi - How many years do you think a player needs to play in order to establish a meaningful mean?

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    Not that we were interested in a 3rd baseman, but one more option came off the table when Josh Donaldson agreed to arbitration today. One year $23 Million. We continue to sit and wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    @alexspeier

    Eduardo Rodriguez and the Sox agreed to a $2.375 million deal for 2018.
    For half of 2018.

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    Asking the same old crew to return and increase their run total by 6-7% isn't realistic.

    Is it any more unrealistic than to think we'd decline by 11% in runs scored from 2016 to 2017?


    If you are going to gain 50 runs as a team, youre going to need to add something else.

    Scoring 50 more runs this year would still be 43 less than 2016.

    Yes, we lost Papi from the 2016 team, but we've added Beni, Devers and our young stars are reaching prime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
    I'm hopeful of good things from Workman this year. Always liked the kid.
    Me too. He looked pretty good at the end of last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    Returning to a career season? No.

    We are talking about regressing to the mean.

    Mookie's career slash line is .292/.351/.488. Last year, he hit .264/.344/.459. Mookie is likely to regress this year and hit closer to that career line.

    FTR, regression does not mean that if you flip a coin 100 times and you get 80 heads, that in the next 100 flips you will only get 20 heads to 'balance out' the 80 heads. It means that in the next 100 flips the number of heads that you get will be much closer to the expected number of 50.
    It's also not unrealistic to expect a player who is approaching prime to get even better year by year. He could have a career year.

    True, he may have also already had his career year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
    I'm hopeful of good things from Workman this year. Always liked the kid.
    I’m a big fan too.
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    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Did you just put Devers in the same class as Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle? You aren’t the same guy who said Lars Anderson would be a 20 time all star, are you?
    Devers is Ted Williams but with better wheels.
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Devers is Ted Williams but with better wheels.
    I think we need to slow a little down here. Devers hasn’t even played a full season.
    "It happens to everybody, man. He's had 60 at-bats. A couple of years ago, I had 60 at-bats, and I was hitting .170, and everyone was ready to kill me, too. And what happened? Laser show. So, relax."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Will 100 games more from Devers offset the loss of Pedroia for however many games and add 50 runs on top of it?
    Maybe a half season or more with no Pedey and no ERod.

    No 38 games from Nunez, but no 32 games from Pablo, 90 games from Young, 37 games from Rutledge and probably less games from Leon.

    Yes, many games added onto the 58 Devers got last year, but what about this?

    More games by Vaz.

    Probably more games from Price.

    More games Carson Smith.
    More games from Steven Wright.
    More games from Brandon Workman.
    Hopefully many games from Thornburg.
    Possibly more games from Maddox & Velazquez.

    Yes, these guys won't help the offense, but they should help us win some more games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    Not that we were interested in a 3rd baseman, but one more option came off the table when Josh Donaldson agreed to arbitration today. One year $23 Million. We continue to sit and wait.
    Donaldson was never an option for anyone but Toronto. Other teams were asking, and yet he stayed a Blue Jay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Devers is Ted Williams but with better wheels.

    Ted Williams would be 99 years old. I would hope Devers had better wheels...

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