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Thread: 2017/18 Hot Stove Thread

  1. #4816
    Quote Originally Posted by Natick to NC View Post
    Hosmer does not suck on Defense ....We have a guy who sucks on Defense playing Short and one learning the position at 3rd but hey let's say Hosmer sucks as much on D as JD sucks in RF ????? Lol ok sure .
    You're right. He doesn't suck: he stinks horribly. I will be the worst this year or next.

    We're not signing JD to play RF. He will DH.

    Hosmer sucks badly.

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    Last edited by moonslav59; 02-13-2018 at 11:06 PM.

  2. #4817
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    You'reright . He doesn't suck: he stinks horribly. I will be the worst this year or next.

    We're not signing JD to DH.

    Hosmer sucks badly.

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    Ok I'm convinced I'm right ...Thankyou .

  3. #4818
    Quote Originally Posted by Natick to NC View Post
    Don't agree old sign Hosmer for 7 years and wouldn't worry about the position for along time .
    Are you his agent?

    How can anyone be so blind?

    You want the worst fielding 1Bman to be our 1Bman for 7 years, and why? Because Bogey sucks at SS and JD sucks in RF. Wow!

    You want one of baseball's worst power-hitting 1Bman to sign with the team that needs power more than anything else. Why? Becaue your crack pipe whispers 35 Hrs in your bad ear.

    Maybe the best reason to not want Hosmer is that the Padres want him.

    He's not coming here. We signed Moreland, who actually can field.

    Wake up and smell the smoldering crack.

  4. #4819
    Can we please just pass on JD? He is an injury waiting to happen and not worth our time or money.

    Pitching! We need more pitching!

  5. #4820
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    Can we please just pass on JD? He is an injury waiting to happen and not worth our time or money.

    Pitching! We need more pitching!
    He's worth $100M/5.

    We'd still have about $13M to spend. That's enough for Cobb or Lynn, or maybe Cashner & Watson.

  6. #4821
    31 1Bmen with 1500+ PAs since 2014

    Power ranking (ISO)
    Hosmer 29th

    Slugging
    18th (just .030 ahead of 29th)

    Defense
    UZR/150
    16th out of 16 qualified 1Bmen at -1.9
    25th out of 31 with 2,000+ innings

    Want confirmation?
    25th out of 31 in DRS at -9

    Hosmer is not even worth $30M/2.

    He's good at getting on base. That's it.

  7. #4822
    FanGraphs piece about JDM and why the Sox could really use him:

    https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...ed-each-other/

  8. #4823
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    It's not a low ball offer.

    JD is a DH.

    We never even paid Papi $20M.

    Papi was better and had a longer track record.
    Can't really use Papi as a measuring stick. He was an anomaly - a fantastic bargain for virtually his whole career.

  9. #4824
    Alternate ways to characterize DD's offseason to date:

    1. Commendably patient and restrained.
    2. Hasn't done a damn thing.


  10. #4825
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Can't really use Papi as a measuring stick. He was an anomaly - a fantastic bargain for virtually his whole career.
    Okay, then name another DH who made more than $20M a year. Now, make it 5 years.

    Assuming the $100M/5 offer is accurate, I'm not sure I'd go above $105M/5 or $88M/4. If he chooses AZ, fine.

    We can sign Cobb & LoMo or Cobb, Duda & Nunez for the same money and less years and risk.

  11. #4826
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    31 1Bmen with 1500+ PAs since 2014

    Power ranking (ISO)
    Hosmer 29th

    Slugging
    18th (just .030 ahead of 29th)

    Defense
    UZR/150
    16th out of 16 qualified 1Bmen at -1.9
    25th out of 31 with 2,000+ innings

    Want confirmation?
    25th out of 31 in DRS at -9

    Hosmer is not even worth $30M/2.

    He's good at getting on base. That's it.
    He plays in KC ....not Fenway park try to atleast look at the bat for Fenway ..You and I will always differ on who he is and what he would be here ....ThankGod someone didn't write Ortiz off.I shook my head when you wrote he's not worth 30 million .....I would love you to explain that to Peter Gammons who has forgot more baseball than anyone here remembers .Now if we can agree on Freddie Freeman .... I'll feel somewhat better .
    Last edited by Natick to NC; 02-14-2018 at 08:53 AM.

  12. #4827
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Okay, then name another DH who made more than $20M a year. Now, make it 5 years.

    Assuming the $100M/5 offer is accurate, I'm not sure I'd go above $105M/5 or $88M/4. If he chooses AZ, fine.

    We can sign Cobb & LoMo or Cobb, Duda & Nunez for the same money and less years and risk.
    Cobb brings plenty of risk.

    I'm not opposed to your proposals though. I just wish we'd freakin' do something...this offseason is really starting to drive me nutty.

  13. #4828
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Alternate ways to characterize DD's offseason to date:

    1. Commendably patient and restrained.
    2. Hasn't done a damn thing.

    There will be nothing comendable about his patience unless he improves this team.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dojji View Post
    [T]he conclusion to be drawn is that there is no practical value in seeking this ideal lineup, and in that case any way in which it might be meaningfully termed "best" is irrelevant, academic at best, pedantic at worst
    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Unlike hot streaks and clutch, the “Cliff” is a myth. It can’t be defined, and it’s future existence cannot be proved.

  14. #4829
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Alternate ways to characterize DD's offseason to date:

    1. Commendably patient and restrained.
    2. Hasn't done a damn thing.

    But he signed Mitch Moreland!
    Fire Farrell - fucking check mark!
    Trade Pedroia
    Sign JD Martinez to play 1B/DH - finally checked...
    Sign Alex Cora for MGR - check plus!

  15. #4830
    Quote Originally Posted by Natick to NC View Post
    He plays in KC ....not Fenway park try to atleast look at the bat for Fenway ..You and I will always differ on who he is and what he would be here ....ThankGod someone didn't write Ortiz off.I shook my head when you wrote he's not worth 30 million .....I would love you to explain that to Peter Gammons who has forgot more baseball than anyone here remembers .Now if we can agree on Freddie Freeman .... I'll feel somewhat better .
    ***News flash***
    Fenway is not an HR park, so your wild projected 35 HR total is way off, especially for a lefty. Although Hosmer is pretty good at going to LF, pitchers can and will pitch differently to him in Fenway-darring him to hit to RF's spacious area.

    Don't believe me? Look at the facts:

    Hosmer hits an HR 2.9% of his PAs (127/4393).

    At Fenway, he hits an HR 2.8% of his PAs (3/109). He had 0 HRs in 14 PAs last year.

    Your projection is a stab in the dark.


    Your claim that he's a good fielder in based on a dream. He is horrible on D and will only get worse. Apparently, he's good at scooping low throws- whoopdee-freakin-doo!


    We already signed a good fielding 1Bman, and we can't trade him until June. If we sign Hoze, it will be to DH, and he profiles even worse as a DH than a 1Bman. JD is way better as a DH, and he'll get 5 years not 7.


    He'll be the worst big ticket signing this year. It better not be by us.


    Using Gammons as a supporting argument actually helps my position. The last time Gammons was right was in the 80's.


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