Register now to remove this ad

Page 244 of 410 FirstFirst ... 144194234242243244245246254294344 ... LastLast
Results 3,646 to 3,660 of 6142

Thread: 2017/18 Hot Stove Thread

  1. #3646
    Deity
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    10,490
    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    A good read on why the FA is a little slow this year.

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/01/19/fr...eta-yu-darvish

    Wow - revenue sharing guaranteeing profitability to all irrespective of what the actual product on the field looks like. That was a good read. I could go off on a wild tangent right now but I don't want Hitch to get upset with me. I'm really glad that someone in their infinite wisdom is willing to help out some of these mega rich losers though. It is the right thing to do. lol

  2. #3647
    All-Star
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    1,242
    Yup agreed. It's just not a very good list of players this year, and next year is a huge one. That's why I hold up hope we get JD for a very reasonable amount. The market is depressed at the top end this year which is very handy for us.

    edit: Me cp? Now you HAVE TO go for it.

  3. #3648
    Deity
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    10,490
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
    Yup agreed. It's just not a very good list of players this year, and next year is a huge one. That's why I hold up hope we get JD for a very reasonable amount. The market is depressed at the top end this year which is very handy for us.

    edit: Me cp? Now you HAVE TO go for it.
    Not gonna budge one inch -

  4. #3649
    All-Star
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    1,242
    If it's about free market principles helping a sport/club thrive or not, I think there is a very interesting discussion to be had there, without even touching politics.

  5. #3650
    Legend
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    5,441
    Boston Herald columnist Michael Silverman tweets that the Red Sox have offered J.D. Martinez "roughly $125 million over five years":

    https://twitter.com/MikeSilvermanBB/...48404456902657

    I wonder what the best offer is.

  6. #3651
    Deity Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Halifax
    Posts
    47,245
    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    Boston Herald columnist Michael Silverman tweets that the Red Sox have offered J.D. Martinez "roughly $125 million over five years":

    https://twitter.com/MikeSilvermanBB/...48404456902657

    I wonder what the best offer is.
    You shouldn't have to wonder any more.

  7. #3652
    Legend
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    5,441
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    You shouldn't have to wonder any more.
    What team do you think has made the best offer to date?

  8. #3653
    Deity
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    10,490
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    You shouldn't have to wonder any more.
    No one outside of the parties involved really know. The suggestions by writers that I have read have been all over the place. Roughly 125 million - really - What does that even really mean. If the offer went roughly from 100 to 125 all of a sudden, that tells me that someone is trying to scoop a story before they really know what the actual facts might be. One thing all Red Sox fans here seem to agree on is that the Red Sox probably have laid out the best offer to date and that there really isn't some mystery team scheming in the weeds waiting to pounce.

  9. #3654
    All-Star bkzwhitestrican's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    1,758
    I have no issue with a luxury tax. It's meant to keep teams with larger markets from gaining a competitive advantage just because of their geography. The problem I have is with teams who don't spend at all. If you're gonna punish teams who spend too much, you should also punish teams who don't spend enough. Why should teams like LA, NY and Boston subsidize smaller market teams just so they can put out shit lineups so that their owners can pocket an extra 20 mill??
    Last edited by bkzwhitestrican; 01-19-2018 at 04:40 PM.

  10. #3655
    Legend
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    5,441
    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    Boston Herald columnist Michael Silverman tweets that the Red Sox have offered J.D. Martinez "roughly $125 million over five years":

    https://twitter.com/MikeSilvermanBB/...48404456902657

    I wonder what the best offer is.
    From ESPN staff writer Scott Lauber this morning:
    It might take a few more weeks, perhaps even stretching into spring training, but it still makes the most sense for everyone involved that the Red Sox and Martinez get together on a deal for, say, six years and $180 million.

    Both sides need each other too much for it not to happen.
    http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/red-...s-what-we-know

  11. #3656
    Deity
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    10,490
    Quote Originally Posted by bkzwhitestrican View Post
    I have no issue with a luxury tax. It's meant to keep teams with larger markets from gaining a competitive advantage just because of their geography. The problem I have is with teams who don't spend at all. If you're gonna punish teams who spend too much, you should also punish teams who don't spend enough. Why should teams like LA, NY and Boston subsidize smaller market teams just so they can put out shit lineups so that their owners can pocket an extra 20 mill??
    An excellent question! Lay an answer on him Hitch. You know what mine might be due to the fact that I am a card carrying capitalist.

  12. #3657
    Deity Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Halifax
    Posts
    47,245
    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    From ESPN staff writer Scott Lauber this morning:

    http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/red-...s-what-we-know
    I will be bold enough to predict that Martinez is not getting any $180 million.

    As you have said, MLBTR is pretty good with their predictions, and I think their prediction of 6/$150 is as high as anyone is going to go.

  13. #3658
    Deity moonslav59's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Sugar Land, Texas
    Posts
    80,687
    Quote Originally Posted by bkzwhitestrican View Post
    I have no issue with a luxury tax. It's meant to keep teams with larger markets from gaining a competitive advantage just because of their geography. The problem I have is with teams who don't spend at all. If you're gonna punish teams who spend too much, you should also punish teams who don't spend enough. Why should teams like LA, NY and Boston subsidize smaller market teams just so they can put out shit lineups so that their owners can pocket an extra 20 mill??
    I get your point and don't necessarily disagree, but what if that team making that "extra $20M" thanks to larger market teams paying them off still makes just a small fraction of the profit the big teams make?

    In what other business besides sports do people play (on the road) in front of millions of people and viewers and not get a cent from the gate or TV package?

    I always felt like the gate and TV money should be split 505-50 between the home and away teams. Big market teams would still make more as half their games are in their market, but the split would be more fair in several ways.

    Teams might start complaining when they walk away NY City with a big pay check and then go on a road trip to Oakland and make peanuts.


  14. #3659
    TalkSox Ascended Master mvp 78's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    66,422
    @jcmccaffrey

    Ortiz also said he sees a little of himself in Rafael Devers
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    ( I won't say the "C word.")

  15. #3660
    TalkSox Ascended Master mvp 78's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    66,422
    Quote Originally Posted by bkzwhitestrican View Post
    I have no issue with a luxury tax. It's meant to keep teams with larger markets from gaining a competitive advantage just because of their geography. The problem I have is with teams who don't spend at all. If you're gonna punish teams who spend too much, you should also punish teams who don't spend enough. Why should teams like LA, NY and Boston subsidize smaller market teams just so they can put out shit lineups so that their owners can pocket an extra 20 mill??
    Revenue sharing and the luxury tax are different things tho.
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    ( I won't say the "C word.")

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •