90% is a bit of an overstatement when you look at the pitching staff Ben left behind. It was awful.Originally Posted by Kimmi
90% is a bit of an overstatement when you look at the pitching staff Ben left behind. It was awful.
Of course he's not just sitting around all day, but he really can't know what to do until he knows what JD is going to do.
Maybe he doesn't know what he can realistically offer Pom until he knows whether he's going to pay JD $125 or not?
Truck Day is about two weeks away!!!
They can. Are you suggesting that the Sox increase their offer to JD to make him happy, even if there are no other offers?
I think that was a big deal but for some reason it is not spoken about enough.
The ten percent includes Price, Sale, and Kimbrel.
Not sure who else could provide that kind of talent and performance at a significantly lower price.
"Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.
"It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."
They are very rare, but if a player is willing to leave some money on the table to play for a specific team, I think that's a pretty good indication that he wants to play for that team.
Yes that is certainly true. I really doubt that happens often.
"Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.
"It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."
90% may be a bit of an overstatement, but Dombrowski only added Price to the rotation before the 2016 season, then Pom midseason. The rest of the rotation was already in place. My point stands.
Is paying JD $135M/5 not $125M/5 going to make a difference in the offer to Pom?
My guess is DD is not interested in a Pom extension. If Pom repeats 2017, he offers him a QO and it's win-win no matter what pom decides. If Pom struggles, then he did the right thing by no extending him now. I know it's more complicated than this, but even with all the gray area in between, extending Pom is not a no brainer.
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How long will it be before our secondary options commit to other teams which would leave us with a selection of players that wouldn't help that much. That is the real danger, meanwhile JD may well decide to go with another team. The players union and major league baseball need to make adjustments since this season is proving to be one in which many FAs are going to be left taking contracts well below thier projected value.
Haha I'm not against capitalism as a whole. It's brought billions out of poverty and brought up the poverty line in the worst areas of the world, as a direct circumstance of that. Not to be sniffed at, at all.But I also think it has flaws that has led to a widening in the parity of wages and living conditions within the in the modern world. The gap between have and have nots is getting worse, which I very much don't like. Same with all the political ideas. Socialism has many problems with it's ideas but I very much like one of it's main staples which is every person in the country should get free health care and education. And if life deals you a real shit few months and your life falls apart the state will help you. My personal hope/belief is that one day (hopefully soonish) our political ideas will evolve into something better than everything we have managed to come up with, up to this point.
Anyway stepping aside from any potential politics again, I think it's a really interesting discussion Baseball wise.
On one hand I very much like that there is a salary cap and that revenue is shared. I am utterly of the belief that sport should be as fair as possible and not come down to who has the biggest pockets. I know that's not often the case, though. So the salary cap does stop teams from just outbidding all the smaller outfits and turning it into a battle for the ring for the same few organisations every year. That said, there is obviously flaws in this approach too. As has been pointed out, I think some owners are getting away with murder and not fielding anything like the team they could and cheating everyone. I'm not sure what we should do about it, but it definitely needs looking at. 100% agree with that.
The one thing that can't change is the revenue sharing. That needs to stay. A different sport but an example for you: Soccer in Spain, Barcelona and Real Madrid are the two biggest teams by a mile. They have been for years. A long time ago, seeing as they had so much power, they got together and made the Spanish league give them 80% of the TV rights money because they argued that most people only want to watch them. At the time there was a European super league being talked about and they were petrified of losing their two biggest teams to a super league and they gave in. Now no other team has a chance of winning the league. Except for the odd unusual surprise one of them win it every single year. There are 20 teams in the league and only 2 of them ever have a chance of winning the whole thing. 10% of the league gets 80% of the money. That's tragic to me.
I really don't want baseball to go down a route where the same teams dominate year in year out. But I do agree that the system they have in place now is far from perfect, too.
What if J.D. Martinez has two or three offers of $125 million? Should he wait for a bidder to up its offer?
I would hope that DD has reached out to secondary option players' agents and told them to check in before signing elsewhere. The JD hold up might be the reason nobody else has signed, as they are all waiting in hopes that Boston might join in their bidding once they pass or miss out on JD.
Of course this is all speculation on my part, but I do feel like there should be no sense of urgency until the secondary options are ready to sign. My hope is DD is on top of things and will issue an ultimatum to JD once his other options are getting ready to go away.
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