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Thread: A Realistic View at 2018: Part I

  1. #1111
    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    It's closer when you only count seasons 2014 on (which are probably more important). However, Giancarlo IS definitely a much better bet than JD. My only worry is that you would have to give up something of value to get him. If it's a few be level prospects, it's a good option.
    I don't think the difference between them is as gigantic as some seem to, but these are basically my thoughts as well. Getting Stanton would be fantastic, but it would all depend on what we have to give up.
    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

  2. #1112
    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    yes.
    Holy cannoli!

    I can't hate you for it. I've been known to have my own unpopular opinions.
    Fire Farrell - fucking check mark!
    Trade Pedroia
    Sign JD Martinez to play 1B/DH
    Sign Alex Cora for MGR - check plus!

  3. #1113
    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    lol...no DFA. but i would trade him for my man crush.
    If you trade Sale, who would you sign/trade for to start?
    Fire Farrell - fucking check mark!
    Trade Pedroia
    Sign JD Martinez to play 1B/DH
    Sign Alex Cora for MGR - check plus!

  4. #1114
    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    If you trade Sale, who would you sign/trade for to start?
    my other crush. cueto.
    (gun to my head i am NOT trading Sale for Stanton)......(but i would still try and get cueto either way)....
    other names i have posted under: none

  5. #1115
    Quote Originally Posted by S5Dewey View Post
    See the second sentence in the post directly above yours.
    100% if we trade anyone on the 40 man for him he HAS to waive his no trade.
    other names i have posted under: none

  6. #1116
    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    my other crush. cueto.
    (gun to my head i am NOT trading Sale for Stanton)......(but i would still try and get cueto either way)....
    I think DD may do that too (or at least sign some starter). Too many questions concerning the health of Price and ERod. No clue on what Wright can provide. Porcello may just be a 4th starter. What if Pom's 2017 was a fluke? Etc.
    Fire Farrell - fucking check mark!
    Trade Pedroia
    Sign JD Martinez to play 1B/DH
    Sign Alex Cora for MGR - check plus!

  7. #1117
    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Duda doesn't have Moreland's glove though. I think I'd rather have Moreland than Duda short term.
    I'm not high on Duda, but he has great power numbers, especially vs RHPs.

    He'll be very cheap and probably get just 1 year. If HRam can play 1B, he could be a good option that allows us to spend more money on other holes.

    I'll take Duda over Moreland.

    I'll take Duda and a big name over Hosmer alone.
    Last edited by moonslav59; 11-09-2017 at 05:05 PM.

  8. #1118
    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    I was born too long ago to see this kind of contract as realistic. Too long and too much money. The guy is good offensively now but certainly no defensive force. We probably can't get him for 3 or 4 years at most, but if so, we should let someone else take him on.
    I agree. This kind of contract is crazy talk. Of course, Boras is just blowing a lot of smoke right now, but if JD is going to get anything close to that, then I say pass.

  9. #1119
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I'll predict Lester money for JDM - 6 years, 155 million.
    That sounds reasonable as to what he will get. I would not sign him for that, but I think he'll get it.

  10. #1120
    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    If it's Beni for Stanton, would Marlins have to eat some salary?
    Yes, absolutely.

  11. #1121
    Here's a wing-dinger....

    Trade Bogey for prospects & flip them and possibly others for Stanton.
    (add $17M to luxury tax budget)

    Trade Porcello ($20.6M x 2) & JBJ (~$6M arb in 2018) for Cueto ($21.7M x 4) and Moore ($9M option 2018 & $10M option 2018- each with $1M buyout)
    (add $4M to luxury budget)

    Sign Cozart to $42M/3 (add $14M x 3)

    Sign B Shaw to $21M/3 (add $7M x 3)

    Sign Duda to $6M x 1

    Total additions to luxury budget: $48M in 2018.

    2018 Roster:

    1. Betts RF
    2. Beni CF
    3. Cozart SS
    4. Stanton LF
    5. Devers 3B
    6. Duda DH/HRam 1B
    7. HRam 1B/Duda DH or
    8. Pedey 2B
    9. Vaz C

    SP: Sale, Price, Cueto, Pom, Moore, ERod, Wright
    RP: Kimbrel, Shaw, Smith, Kelly, Barnes, Maddox, Scott



  12. #1122
    Cueto and Moore are on my no fly list. Moore cannot keep the ball in the park and Cueto looked washed up in a pitchers park in 2017.
    The rebuild is complete.

  13. #1123
    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Cueto and Moore are on my no fly list. Moore cannot keep the ball in the park and Cueto looked washed up in a pitchers park in 2017.
    So did Porcello.

  14. #1124
    About the Marlins eating any of Stanton's contract. I kind of doubt that they would want another big contract back to offset and I don't think they will swallow any of Stanton's deal either.

    The Statue has clearly said that the Marlins must get down to 90 mil so they need to shed 40 mil.

    It would be almost impossible to reach 90 mil without shedding the entire Stanton contract.

    Of course Jetter could have his head up his ass.

    Who knows?
    "Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.


    "It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."

  15. #1125
    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    my other crush. cueto.
    (gun to my head i am NOT trading Sale for Stanton)......(but i would still try and get cueto either way)....
    Cueto is owed like $92million over the next 4 seasons and is coming off a season where he had a 4.52ERA in a National League pitcher's park. No way he opts out and no way is he worth trading for. The Sox shouldn't even trade Rusney Castillo for him straight up. ...

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