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Thread: A Realistic View at 2018: Part I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Still a 70+ WAR career.
    Alternative facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Still a 70+ WAR career.
    well christ, he played 20 years. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Alternative facts.
    I must have missed the part in your post that said 'as a defender'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Look who the Yanks got for a few rentals.

    Look who the Mariins got for gems with several years of team control.

    Case dismissed.
    The Yankees were dealing form strength, the Marlins not, everybody knows that they have to get rid of those salaries, that took all the leverage out of the conversations

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    moon's mancrush Zack Cozart is going to the Angels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpin View Post
    The Yankees were dealing form strength, the Marlins not, everybody knows that they have to get rid of those salaries, that took all the leverage out of the conversations
    The Marlins created that situation by:

    1. Not having any money
    2. Not being particularly proactive with Stanton - or even communicating intent. They don't owe the reigning MVP an explanation statutorily - but it's a baffling way to do bidness especially when he held all the leverage. Maybe he doesn't cooperate more with them - but they never gave him any real chance to.
    3. Lots of teams have fire sales - it happens all the time. Few have gotten so little back relatively. At least one of these trades would have gotten you tossed out of your roto league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Station 13 View Post
    moon's mancrush Zack Cozart is going to the Angels.
    Angels are paying a 32 year old for 3 years who came off of a single good season - mozel tov to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk7326 View Post
    The Marlins created that situation by:

    1. Not having any money
    2. Not being particularly proactive with Stanton - or even communicating intent. They don't owe the reigning MVP an explanation statutorily - but it's a baffling way to do bidness especially when he held all the leverage. Maybe he doesn't cooperate more with them - but they never gave him any real chance to.
    3. Lots of teams have fire sales - it happens all the time. Few have gotten so little back relatively. At least one of these trades would have gotten you tossed out of your roto league.
    Exactly, the biggest mistake for the Marlins was to tip their hand, everybody knew they were short in cash but it was just speculation, when they confirmed their goal for payroll they lost all the leverage in trade discussions

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    Phillies Agree To Terms With Carlos Santana



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    Angels Sign Zack Cozart


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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    One more down...

    Phillies Agree To Terms With Carlos Santana


    Yes, and that eliminates a direction that the Sox might well have taken. I hate to be put into a corner and be forced to take a player for a long term contract at high dollars.

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    Santana took the high AAV over the bigger guarantee. Kudos to him. I pegged him for 5 years $85 mil at the outset of FA. If he hits like he has been for those 3 seasons, then the $17.5 mil option will be kicked in and he’ll nab 4 yrs $77.5 mil. Either way, he got paid well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Santana took the high AAV over the bigger guarantee. Kudos to him. I pegged him for 5 years $85 mil at the outset of FA. If he hits like he has been for those 3 seasons, then the $17.5 mil option will be kicked in and he’ll nab 4 yrs $77.5 mil. Either way, he got paid well.
    I thought he'd get $62M/4.

    Yes, he was overpaid, but I think I'd rather pay $78M/4 than trade the rest of our farm for Abreu at about #38M/2.

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    Still plenty out there...

    MLBTR top free agents....

    1. Darvish- available
    2. JD Martinez- available
    3. Eric Hosmer- available
    4. Arrieta- available
    5. Tanaka- (Did not opt out with Yankees.)
    6. Moustakas- available
    7. L. Cain- available
    8. Wade Davis- available
    9. Lance Lynn- available
    10. Greg Holland- available
    11. Alex Cobb- available
    12. C. Santana- Phillies ($60M/3)
    13. Z Cozart- LAA ($38M/3)

    14. J Bruce- available
    15. L Morrison- available

    (Justin Upton $106M/5)






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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Angels Sign Zack Cozart

    Good luck hitting anything through the left side of that infield...

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