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Thread: Sox to hire Alex Cora as manager

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    I think Cora will be a better communicator with the players (Already reached out to Price) and have only heard good things about him. I think this is a good move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behindenemylines View Post
    I think Cora will be a better communicator with the players (Already reached out to Price) and have only heard good things about him. I think this is a good move.
    Hopefully, he told Price to stop being a dick and let his talent do the talking.
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    ...and he should tell the other players to hit, pitch, field and run better.

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    kiss principle has always worked even when people get in the way and try to over complicate things!

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    https://www.overthemonster.com/2017/...ander-bogaerts

    Yooooooooooooooooo... Alex Cora is saying that the Sox are going to have a different offensive approach this year. They were too "passive" last year taking too many pitches down the middle early in the count. "We're going to talk to them and tell them to look for a pitch in the middle of the strike zone and do some damage with it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
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    Yooooooooooooooooo... Alex Cora is saying that the Sox are going to have a different offensive approach this year. They were too "passive" last year taking too many pitches down the middle early in the count. "We're going to talk to them and tell them to look for a pitch in the middle of the strike zone and do some damage with it."

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    Much easier said than done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudboy View Post
    Much easier said than done.
    Nah, it's easy as long as the manager is empowered to force the players to adjust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Nah, it's easy as long as the manager is empowered to force the players to adjust.
    We will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    https://www.overthemonster.com/2017/...ander-bogaerts

    Yooooooooooooooooo... Alex Cora is saying that the Sox are going to have a different offensive approach this year. They were too "passive" last year taking too many pitches down the middle early in the count. "We're going to talk to them and tell them to look for a pitch in the middle of the strike zone and do some damage with it."

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    I agree with this, to a certain extent. Our hitters were a little too passive. However, we don't want our hitters taking it to the other extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    I agree with this, to a certain extent. Our hitters were a little too passive. However, we don't want our hitters taking it to the other extreme.
    I agree. I like patience, but hate giving up on a pitch before it leaves a guy’s hand.
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    I like the common sense approach that Tim Hyers seems to take. It isn't about just moving in and retooling someone's swing. it is about working with the hitter and what tools he may already have and refine them. Basically the approach he sells really isn't complicated but it is a little different than what we have seen in Fenway for quite some time. Good luck to him - He sounds enthusiastic. By the way - staying on top of the ball worked for me because if it got on the ground I was in pretty good shape. It didn't work as well for some of my powerful teammates!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Nah, it's easy as long as the manager is empowered to force the players to adjust.
    It's the type of change that's easier for a GM to enforce than a manager.

    Forcing hitters to swing outside their comfort zone and be productive? It would probably be easier to just go get other hitters who hit the way you want...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cp176 View Post
    I like the common sense approach that Tim Hyers seems to take. It isn't about just moving in and retooling someone's swing. it is about working with the hitter and what tools he may already have and refine them. Basically the approach he sells really isn't complicated but it is a little different than what we have seen in Fenway for quite some time. Good luck to him - He sounds enthusiastic. By the way - staying on top of the ball worked for me because if it got on the ground I was in pretty good shape. It didn't work as well for some of my powerful teammates!
    I think that it is also interesting to note that Hyers previously worked with our budding young superstars (as some have called them) before in the minors. He knows them - they know him- what he will ask them to do might become very complicated to the prevailing think tankers and others who like to talk about the game as opposed to playing it but my guess would it be that any changes he asks our guys to make should be fairly simple -KISS.

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    As much as I was impressed with those aggressive Houston bats in the playoffs, I still think there's no answer to this conundrum. By taking pitches, you give your own starter some rest, and dispense of the other starter into the bargain.

    If I were a manager I would game plan this. If we're playing the Yankees, and most of their great relievers are rested, I'd tell my players to be aggressive tonight. In contrast, if I'm up against a terrific starter, who has is backed up by average relievers, I would say "let's run the counts" tonight. To me there's nothing more impressive than to see a hitter see double figure pitches in one at bat, when up against a lights out starter.

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