Holy shit. I didn't expect this.
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-Vin Scully
The noise was too lous, I expected it, but not this quick. I wonder if David would take the job? I doubt it, he seems content where he is. But what a manager that guy would make! No fancy oratory, just "how to;s)Originally Posted by S5Dewey
I am really warming to your idea of Ortiz being the new manager, but but I don't see it happening. This group of players is highly paid with a sense of entitlement, and with sour puss Price as the prominent voice almost any new manager will have no chance of getting control of the place. Ortiz would command the clubhouse. Players would respect him, and if he loses his temper, they would sit up and pay attention. Having no managerial experience, he would need the support of a very experienced coaching staff.
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DD always wanted his own guy. Hopefully, it's not a Ausmus redux.
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"Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.
"It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."
I mentioned in another string that Gardenhire is the guy who is favored as a replacement. Whoever it is, the sooner the better. They will have to do due diligence and interview a diverse group to satisfy current policy sensitivities, so that will take a month.
I wasn't amazed that it happened. Like most here I was ambivalent about it.
What surprised me was the timing. I'd always heard that there was an ongoing request from MLB that teams didn't make personnel changes until the WS is over as those changes divert the interest from the games.
It'll be interesting now to see if the Sox have the courage to raise ticket prices again.
It's a mere moment in a man's life between the All-Star game and the Old Timer's game.
-Vin Scully
LOL!! That's right. They have lots of different raffles for season ticket holders. If they really wanted to treat us right, they should have had a raffle to let a season ticket holder fire the manager.
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I did. Farrell is what he is. An average manager. While there were other holes to plug and a sense that the team was playing over his head there was no need to make this move, but the team underperformed this year including another one-and-done in the division round. He got is this far but other than adding maybe one power bat, it's going to take
a more consistent effort from the players to take us any further. That's a good time to go looking for a new manager.
An average manager can absolutely win the World Series if he manages at a great level for a year. Farrell did it in 13, Ned Yost did it in 15, both are very average. But counting on it is inadvisable.
Personally I want to see them interview DeMarlo Hale. He's a coach from the winning era, served under Tito, knows his system, and he knows many of the veterans on the team, he's one of the most experienced non-managers in the league right now. Get him in here and see what he can give us.
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If history tells us anything, the path to redeption for any bad baseball team is marked with a deep rotation of durable starters, a world class defense in both infield and outfield, a lineup that can generate runs in more than one way, a bullpen that won't steal defeat from the jaws of victory, and a top end catcher to hold the whole package together. These are the conditions by which victory is achieved, anything that does not accomplish these objectives is a waste of resources.
Like you I was ambivalent. I look at it as not really a firing, but instead and unwillingness to renew a manager with his strengths and faults. This move should allow the new manager to come in and select some new coaches, which I think is needed. In addition, he may make a difference with the attitude of some of our players. Perhaps a more positive outlook. On the other hand things could get worse. Whats done is done and now I hope they carry it off as quicklly as possible.
Nobody is thinking like that around here.
To me, that is good enough reason not to make a non-essential move like this.
I suspect the inmates are calling the shots and that is not a healthy situation.
"Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.
"It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."
"Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
Priorities:
1. Yankees lose
2. Red Sox win
That's it in a nutshell.
Plus, this FO has been known to make rash decisions.
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