Good summary of where we might improve oldtimer. I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't think our team needs as much help this offseason as most people do. Add someone solid at 1B/DH, add a solid starter (depending on Price's health), and tweak the bench and bullpen. I really think we would be competitive next season if we returned the same team.Originally Posted by oldtimer
Yup. But THIS YEAR, despite the fact that we finished in first place in the ALE again, the Yankees had a more well rounded team than we did because not only could they pitch, but they could actually hit the baseball. The Sox have a ways to go to catch up to them in the offense department. While the Red Sox went out this year with a wimper, the Yankees, to their credit, fought to the end and nearly ended up in the World Series. So I would offer a begrudging congratulations to the Yankee fans here, along with hopes that DD can find more players this offseason who can actually hit the baseball.
It's the ultimate in "grass is greener" when a Sox fans compares the two teams.
"The Yankees have Judge and Sanchez and Grigorius and all this young talent." Then when looking at the Sox, ignore the Killer B's and focus on "We have Hanley and can't keep Moreland."
"The Yankees have Severino and Grey and all we have is Steven Wright and a gimpy ERod." See how I did that? This was the lamest trick in the softlaw bag - comparing their best to our worst.
The fact is - we won more games and aren't losing any key players (they'll likely lose Tanaka). Many of their players had career years or resurgent years and many of ours had down years, two trends that could easily reverse.
We need some hitting help. But I would not rebuild everything. Despite the post-season, they're still the team with ground to make up...
We have to at least upgrade 1B, and we should not bring Moreland back.
He didn't do badly, but 1B (or DH if HRam can play 1B) can be the one area we can gain in power and overall offense.
Player A is Lucas Duda.
If we want to be "like the Yankess", we should trade our stars for prospects and build the team from youth, then add 5-6 guys at the deadline.Alex Cora will be our magic potion in 2018.
The Yankees built their team the right way. Dombrowski did not. That said, it would not be in Dombrowski's best interest to make rash moves. Our team is pretty good and pretty set for the next couple of years. We can compete with the Yankees with a few moves, none of which needs to involve Stanton.
The Yanks did not get this good by trading for any Stantons.
(Note: I'm not trying to say we should be "like" the Yanks, but I do share Kimmi's deep concern over the depletion of our farm.)
I agree. I think we just need to make 2 major additions or 3 close to major additions. We might have close to $40M to spend, if Henry give the okay to approach the second penalty phase of the luxury tax budget. That might be just enough.
Add possible full years by Price, Devers, Smith, Wright, Maddox, and more from Ross and Thornburg to the probability that some of our younger players will actually improve as the approach or reach prime, and we could easily still be "the team to beat" in the AL East.
Tanaka is going to be interesting for sure, does he walk away from 67 million guaranteed.
If if if.
"Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.
"It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."
MLBTR reports...
The Rays should be open to trading right-hander Jake Odorizzi, closer Alex Colome, outfielder/designated hitter Corey Dickerson and second baseman Brad Miller during the offseason, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times opines. All four players will go through arbitration in the winter, with Odorizzi projected to end up with the highest salary ($6.5MM). He’s also the player the Rays are most likely to trade, according to Topkin. Odorizzi, 27, is coming off a down season, but his impressive track record and two remaining years of affordable team control could lead to plenty of interest from starter-needy clubs.
Check again, now we have two.
Yeah, that was part of what I meant when I said they played a little over their heads. Yankee pitching was solid, but not THAT good. But even so, this Sox team just does not hit well enough, and is missing some of the intangibles the 2013 team had. Address those two issues, and we are better than NYY.
Yes. As the youngest big name starter on the market, he could easily double that.
The only reason to stay is if he feels hos elbow won't pass a physical. ..
Yankee Free Agents:
Maybe Tanaka
Sabathia
Pineda
Frazier
Garcia
Holliday
Free Agents after next year:
Robertson
Warren
Headley
Red Sox Free Agents:
Moreland
Nunez
Reed
Fister
Young
Abad
Boyer
Davis
Free agents after next year:
Kimbrel
Pomeranz
maybe HRam
Kelly
Ross
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