Wasn't even close, 28-2. That swoon to end the season really hurt.
Kluber deserved to win.
"Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.
"It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."
good think JF blew out Sales arm to get those 300 k's. #personalgoals > #teamgoals
enjoy the unemployment line JF!
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Kluber had a 12.79 ERA against the Yankees. He must have also pitched too many innings. Nice work Tito!
Kluber was magnificent. Sale sputtered down the stretch - I do think Farrell's options were limited here though. The non-Sale parts of the rotation had flaws in performance and/or bulk which forced a lot of bullpen usage.
This. If your ace cant make it an entire season and play well in the playoffs he shouldn't be your ace...... It's that simple. Sale needs to put some weight on in the off season so he can last longer through the season. He looked burnt out as soon as the All Star Break was over. That just shouldn't happen when you are expected to be the Ace of a team. He played well as a reliever against Houston but outside of that his second half of the season was night and day to the first half...... and in my opinion that is not JF's fault what so ever.
Ummm... don't you have that backwards?
Farrell overused Sale when the Sox needed to win down the stretch. And that overuse likely cost Sale the Cy Young. I'm fairly certain this means it was for a team goal over a personal goal.
But I can see your complaint, if you prefer Cy Young winners over AL East winners....
It is possible to have both.
"Hating the Yankees like it's a religion since 94'" RIP Mike.
"It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."
In general I defended Farrell's use of Sale. But the complaints about Farrell using Sale for 8 innings and 111 pitches in the September 20 game where he reached 300 K's may well be justified, especially when viewed with the wonderful clarity of hindsight. Farrell could easily have removed Sale after 6 innings in that one. Sale pitching like crap in the next 2 games doesn't help Farrell's case.
Last edited by Bellhorn04; 11-19-2017 at 09:18 AM.
The idea of resting Sale more during the season has merit, but not in the last week of baseball when you are fighting for the division. IMO, that makes no sense. I know for a fact that if Farrell had rested Sale and the Sox ended up losing the division, we'd never hear the end of how stupid Farrell was for not starting his best pitcher.
Farrell got crucified for pushing Sale back one start before the west coast trip.