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Thread: Red Sox: Off Season '23-'24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Would have been nice if they tried, though.
    There both was and was not standing offer to Montgomery if you believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    He is third in fWAR in MLB in the past 3 years, behind only Wheeler and Gausman and just ahead of Cole and Nola…
    Buoyed by his 7.5 fWAR three years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Buoyed by his 7.5 fWAR three years ago.
    You could say the same thing about Wheeler, except it was only 7.2…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    You could say the same thing about Wheeler, except it was only 7.2…
    7.2
    4.2
    5.9

    7.5
    4.6
    3.4

    I would NOT say the samples look the same to me. Wheeler's second best season is +1 greater than Burnes. Same with the third season. Burnes is also trending DOWN, especially when you look on Statcast. That's not the case for Wheeler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    They were connected enough. I’d like to know if they made an actual offer and what it was…
    Yes, the Interest Kings do stay engaged and connected.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Yes, the Interest Kings do stay engaged and connected.
    Carrabis said that his contacts told him two different messages. One said there was a standing offer. The other said the other person was wrong and there was no standing offer. Maybe one was made and pulled at some point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    7.2
    4.2
    5.9

    7.5
    4.6
    3.4

    I would NOT say the samples look the same to me. Wheeler's second best season is +1 greater than Burnes. Same with the third season. Burnes is also trending DOWN, especially when you look on Statcast. That's not the case for Wheeler.
    So now you come around to that theory.
    WAR is good for something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    7.2
    4.2
    5.9

    7.5
    4.6
    3.4

    I would NOT say the samples look the same to me. Wheeler's second best season is +1 greater than Burnes. Same with the third season. Burnes is also trending DOWN, especially when you look on Statcast. That's not the case for Wheeler.
    You could say Wheeler's numbers were buoyed by his season 3 years ago, right?

    (Not to the same extent, but it's true.)
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    You could say Wheeler's numbers were buoyed by his season 3 years ago, right?

    (Not to the same extent, but it's true.)
    No.

    Wheeler's next best season was only 1.3 fWAR less. Burnes' was almost 3!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipre View Post
    So now you come around to that theory.
    I just don't like the cut of Burnes' jib. He's a good pitcher, but I don't think I was ever ALL IN on trading for him.
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    Looks like the Dodgers are about to lock up Will Smith with a 10 year extension for the soon to be 29 year old.

    There may be deferred money and a guarantee of $140M.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Montgomery got a pretty good payday for a ten game winner. And we can now stop calling him " Monty ". No cute nicknames for the enemy.
    Old school is good school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgalehouse View Post
    Montgomery got a pretty good payday for a ten game winner.
    And the Sox had no need for him because they signed Giolito.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Breaking news:

    The SOX just picked up a starter from the Rays. His name is Uwasawa, who is 30 years old. The trade involved cash going to Tampa. In 10 years of pitching in Japan he had a 3.19ERA.
    He's a finesse pitcher whose fastball is in the 90mph range.
    Last edited by SPLENDIDSPLINTER; 03-27-2024 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    And the Sox had no need for him because they signed Giolito.
    That's " Gio ".
    Old school is good school.

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