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Thread: A Realistic View at 2024: Part I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    Once again i didn’t say get rid of him, but the FACT is they are a losing team with him, or without him.
    So did you have a point at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    Once again i didn’t say get rid of him, but the FACT is they are a losing team with him, or without him.
    What exactly does that prove? David Ortiz and Mookie Betts also played on losing Red Sox teams.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    Even if it’s as less as possible? The last 3 years convinced you?
    I think Sale is worth a gamble for 1 more year at an AAV of 25.6 mill.

    Of course, I'm assuming that Henry is going to loosen the purse strings a little, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    What exactly does that prove? David Ortiz and Mookie Betts also played on losing Red Sox teams.
    So did Ted, and. so did Yaz. I’m just saying I don’t think he’s as valuable as everyone else think’s especially if he has to be moved to DH. $300M+ is a lot of money for a DH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I think Sale is worth a gamble for 1 more year at an AAV of 25.6 mill.

    Of course, I'm assuming that Henry is going to loosen the purse strings a little, too.
    Sale has been a gamble since DD signed him to that extension. That $25M could be a lot better spent on a part time player at best, which is what he’s been for three years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    So did Ted, and. so did Yaz. I’m just saying I don’t think he’s as valuable as everyone else think’s especially if he has to be moved to DH. $300M+ is a lot of money for a DH.
    That’s very poor logic for keeping him at 3b.

    If his salary dictates his position, maybe they need to make him a TOR starter…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    Of course there is nothing to complain about after ANOTHER losing team, and finishing last place in the Div. What do you think the overall opinion is in Red Sox Nation right now? Complaining, or thinking everything is red, and rosy?
    There are things to complain about, but you can never admit that there are some things that are working. Baby/bath water and all that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Devers as a hitter stands to be the most helpful player on the roster for getting out of last place. His defense is less helpful in this regard.

    Move him to 1b/DH where he can continue to do what he does best and the team can mitigate what he does worst
    It MAY mitigate what he does worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    It MAY mitigate what he does worst.
    Well it will certainly eliminate his errant throws to first…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I'm not in favor of trading Sale. I want as much pitching as possible.
    You could use that $25M towards a different arm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Well it will certainly eliminate his errant throws to first…
    Many more throws from 1B to P though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    There are things to complain about, but you can never admit that there are some things that are working. Baby/bath water and all that...
    Casas I’m excited about, but the jury is still out to me on the RAF Man, Duran, Abreu, Valdez crop for next year. Did I miss anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    You could use that $25M towards a different arm?
    Per my post earlier, what if the best as arm you can get for $25mill is Lucas Giolito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    That’s very poor logic for keeping him at 3b.

    If his salary dictates his position, maybe they need to make him a TOR starter…
    My logic is that I don't believe this ownership will bring in a better MLB 3b from outside the organization. They may move him off the position at some point, but I don't believe it will be in 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Per my post earlier, what if the best as arm you can get for $25mill is Lucas Giolito?
    I'd keep Chris Sale for a year and put the 25M towards Burnes.
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