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    "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

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    Shut up, Red Sox Nation
    By Jim Caple
    Updated: August 29, 2007, 1:29 PM ET

    After Game 7 of the 2003 American League championship series between the Red Sox and Yankees, I walked out of Yankee Stadium with a colleague. Just 48 hours earlier it had seemed very possible that the Red Sox and Cubs would meet in the World Series. Instead, we were getting the Yankees versus the Marlins.

    "Damn," I said. "I was really looking forward to a Cubs-Red Sox World Series."

    "No, we didn't want that," he said. "Because right now we have one group of totally obnoxious fans we have to deal with. And if the Cubs or the Red Sox were to win, then we would have two."

    If only we had that sort of foresight before invading Iraq.

    It's true. While Yankees fans momentarily are neutralized by their recent embarrassing autumns and their current spot in the standings, Red Sox fans, sadly, have taken over the mantle as the most obnoxious fans in sports.

    I say this as a former Red Sox fan. I spent a good chunk of my teens and early adulthood hating the Yankees and rooting for the Red Sox. I wandered into the rainy streets in stunned silence after the Bill Buckner play in Game 6 of the 1986 World Series. I went into my room, closed the door, and fell weeping onto my bed during Game 7 that year. (Mind you, I was 24 at the time and I was crying while there still were two innings left to play.) But Boston fans were different then. They were the tragically loyal fans who always went home disappointed in the end. You might have gotten tired of our whining, but at least we weren't constantly in your face with it.

    No longer. As soon as the Red Sox won the 2004 World Series, Boston fans took on a swaggering, entitled persona, acting as if they alone invented sports fandom and behaving as if nothing else in baseball mattered but them.

    It's like in "Can't Buy Me Love" when geeky Patrick Dempsey (in his pre-McDreamy youth) pays popular cheerleader Amanda Peterson to be his girlfriend for a month, and then he starts acting like an ass. (By the way, for some reason there is no photo of the amazing Ms. Peterson at the IMDb Web site. Meanwhile, Corey Haim and Corey Feldman have a reality show. And people are wasting their anger on Michael Vick?)

    No one can stand to be around Red Sox fans anymore. And they're everywhere -- a recent USA Today article labeled the Red Sox baseball's new biggest attraction. Forget a fence between the U.S. and Mexico. What we really need is a wall, a moat and a minefield around New England to keep the spoiled citizens of Red Sox Nation from sneaking into the rest of the country and taking over seats in major league ballparks that should go to hard-working local fans. Everywhere the Red Sox play these days turns into a road version of Fenway Park, with Boston fans occasionally drowning out the hometown fans with their "Let's Go Red Sox!" chants. They were so over the top at a recent game in Seattle, I was surprised the Mariners didn't play "Sweet Caroline."

    Whether this is an inspiring show of team pride by passionate fans or an annoying lack of manners depends on how close you have to actually sit to these people.

    They call themselves Red Sox Nation, the same arrogant way the Cowboys call themselves America's Team. And the whole thing is getting a little old. Could I get a little help here from Miss Teen South Carolina? Where the hell is Red Sox Nation anyway? It seems to me Red Sox Nation only exists when the team is winning, like a country that only shows up on U.S. State Department radar when oil is discovered. Wherever Red Sox Nation is, I just wish Bush would invade it.

    Have Red Sox fans gotten too big for their britches? Jim Caple thinks so.
    I would say that Red Sox fans need a humbling collapse -- say, blowing a 14?-game lead in the standings or a 3-0 lead in the ALCS -- but then we would just have to listen to them moan about that for another couple decades. Even now, we have to suffer through stories about how their once enormous lead was whittled down to four games last week. Good lord. Sorry, but the Red Sox days as a tragic, put-upon team are over. That died the instant the final out from the 2004 World Series landed in Doug Mientkiewicz's glove. This means no one wants to read any more stories about how a shriveling first-place lead or a Yankees pennant drive inspires "dread" in Boston fans. Hearing fans of a team with a $143 million payroll and a recent World Series ring worry about a seven-game lead is like listening to Bill Gates worry that Social Security might run out when he's 67.

    Enough already. Get over yourselves, Red Sox fans. Better yet, follow the lead of White Sox fans. Their team went 88 years without winning a World Series. They went 46 years without even playing in one. Yet when they finally won in 2005, they had the decency to keep their celebration to themselves.

    And if their fine example isn't enough, then maybe this will be enough to sober you up:

    You're acting like Yankees fans.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Well here's a pointless thread. Thank you, come again for more hilarity
    "See what you have to ask yourself is what kind of person are you? Are you the kind that sees signs, sees miracles? Or do you believe that people just get lucky? Or, look at the question this way: Is it possible that there are no coincidences?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverside sluggers;287073;
    Well here's a pointless thread. Thank you, come again for more hilarity
    It's not pointless. It was an ESPN writer's opinion, one that most babseball fans in this country happen to agree with.

    If you want to counter it with reasons why the writer is wrong and you are right, go ahead. That's the point of a discussion thread.

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    Caple just now realizes a lot of the current RSN are bandwagoners? What, did he start following sports this year? Teams on a current good run always pick up the bandwagon hoppers. And, maybe, just maybe, if his retarded brethren didn't write so much crap about the tragic history pre-2004, half of those people wouldn't be interested when they got good in the first place. I love how the media bitches about this now. They helped create the mess. Nitwits.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Quote Originally Posted by riverside sluggers;287073;
    Well here's a pointless thread. Thank you, come again for more hilarity
    Riverside, are you always like this?
    Quote Originally Posted by ORS
    I know they will. At some point in your life, you'll grow up and quit pulling stupid shit like this. Then, the world will be a better place. Unfortunately, somebody else will turn 12 and start doing the same thing. It's a vicious cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUGOforMVP;287075;
    It's not pointless. It was an ESPN writer's opinion, one that most babseball fans in this country happen to agree with.

    If you want to counter it with reasons why the writer is wrong and you are right, go ahead. That's the point of a discussion thread.
    I despise article rants, even when its against the yankees. Its one opinion and readers like yourself believe that every single word is 100% fact
    "See what you have to ask yourself is what kind of person are you? Are you the kind that sees signs, sees miracles? Or do you believe that people just get lucky? Or, look at the question this way: Is it possible that there are no coincidences?"

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Quote Originally Posted by One Red Seat;287077;
    Caple just now realizes a lot of the current RSN are bandwagoners? What, did he start following sports this year? Teams on a current good run always pick up the bandwagon hoppers. And, maybe, just maybe, if his retarded brethren didn't write so much crap about the tragic history pre-2004, half of those people wouldn't be interested when they got good in the first place. I love how the media bitches about this now. They helped create the mess. Nitwits.
    QFT.

    Read his book "The Devil Wears Pinstripes," he encourages fans to engage in the same type of behavior he claims to despise.

    I don't get ESPN, anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by ORS
    I know they will. At some point in your life, you'll grow up and quit pulling stupid shit like this. Then, the world will be a better place. Unfortunately, somebody else will turn 12 and start doing the same thing. It's a vicious cycle.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Quote Originally Posted by riverside sluggers;287079;
    I despise article rants, even when its against the yankees. Its one opinion and readers like yourself believe that every single word is 100% fact
    Did I ever say every word is 100% fact? I understand it's an opinion -- the guy has managed to put into words the reality that has become RSN. Rather than bash it, maybe you should learn from it.

    Being a Laker fan, I hear the same kind of stuff all the time. But I don't dismiss it as "pointless." That would be very shallow and close-minded.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Quote Originally Posted by LUGOforMVP;287084;
    Did I ever say every word is 100% fact? I understand it's an opinion -- the guy has managed to put into words the reality that has become RSN. Rather than bash it, maybe you should learn from it.

    Being a Laker fan, I hear the same kind of stuff all the time. But I don't dismiss it as "pointless." That would be very shallow and close-minded.
    Riverside is a protegee of Fred.

    Just so you know.
    Quote Originally Posted by ORS
    I know they will. At some point in your life, you'll grow up and quit pulling stupid shit like this. Then, the world will be a better place. Unfortunately, somebody else will turn 12 and start doing the same thing. It's a vicious cycle.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Quote Originally Posted by CrespoBlows;287088;
    Riverside is a protegee of Fred.

    Just so you know.
    That explains everything.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Quote Originally Posted by Metropolitan Cowboy;287091;
    That explains everything.
    No doubt. It all makes sense now.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Someone posted this at this all MLB board i browse. The unanimous decision was yankees are the worst.
    They haven't met dodger fans i guess.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    but there is only one group of fans that cannot sleep because they only have a 5 game lead going into Sept.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Quote Originally Posted by Metropolitan Cowboy;287279;
    but there is only one group of fans that cannot sleep because they only have a 5 game lead going into Sept.
    Actually, I'm still very confident that we'll win the East. Besides, I don't lose sleep until the lead's down to 3. That's when one series can seriously break you.

    Now, back to the article. If ORS's post hadn't already been quoted for truth, I would have done it. Caple's an idiot.

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    Re: "Shut Up, Red Sox Nation"

    Quote Originally Posted by Metropolitan Cowboy;287279;
    but there is only one group of fans that cannot sleep because they only have a 5 game lead going into Sept.
    This is funny coming from one of the guys whose panties twist into knots when we rib you for the "arrive in the 3rd leave in the 7th crowd". I guess that desire for a good representative sample goes out the window when it isn't about you. Funny how that works.

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