Michael Jackson Passes Away at 50

[BoSox21]

From TMZ...


We've just learned Michael Jackson has died. He was 50.

Michael suffered a cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon at his Holmby Hills home and paramedics were unable to revive him. We're told when paramedics arrived Jackson had no pulse and they never got a pulse back.

A source tells us Jackson was dead when paramedics arrived.

LaToya ran in the hospital sobbing, after Jackson was pronounced dead.

Michael is survived by three children: Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince "Blanket" Michael Jackson II.

Jackson had 13 number one hits during his solo career.

They say bad things come in threes. Ed McMahon, Farrah Fawcett and now Michael Jackson

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Something must of been a hell of a Thriller to send him into cardiac arrest.

[Dipre]

Something must of been a hell of a Thriller to send him into cardiac arrest.

Too much and too fast.

RIP Michael, you will be missed.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Too much and too fast.

RIP Michael, you will be missed.

Meh.


In all honesty this shocks the hell out of me. I kinda thought he would live forever. He was a part of my childhood, kinda crazy.

[BSN07]

MSN has him as " rushed to the hospital". I haven't seen him pronounced anywhere but TMZ. In any case it's a big loss.

Jacko didn't shine bright in the late parts of his career, but his beginning and middle are rivaled by no one, outside of Elvis.

Thanks for the music, the memories and the laughs.

RIP

[BigPapiEnFuego]

MSN has him as " rushed to the hospital". I haven't seen him pronounced anywhere but TMZ. In any case it's a big loss.

Jacko didn't shine bright in the late parts of his career, but his beginning and middle are rivaled by no one, outside of Elvis.

Thanks for the music, the memories and the laughs.

RIP

CNN, New York Times and every news station here has him as dead. MTV even stopped programming and is showing his music videos right now, I am watching thriller as we speak

[Jasonbay44]

Really unexpected. R.I.P Michael.

[BSN07]

CNN, New York Times and every news station here has him as dead. MTV even stopped programming and is showing his music videos right now, I am watching thriller as we speak

K thanks. I am a fairly shocked by this.

It is odd to see someone from your childhood pass.

[RobiForMVP]

Wow...Really shocked...
R.I.P M-Jax

[Keeper]

Great entertainer. Great artist. But not a great man. The world is now a better place.

[yankeessuck013]

He was an excellent artist but was also a tremendous philanthropist and did a lot for the world. We should be focusing on his accomplishment, not his legal troubles.

[Keeper]

I like how you spun that. His "legal troubles." Let's excuse him for his pedophilia because he donated to a few charities. Should have died about 50 molested children ago.

[CrespoBlows]

He was an excellent artist but was also a tremendous philanthropist and did a lot for the world. We should be focusing on his accomplishment, not his legal troubles.

Wow.

Hamas does charity work. We should ignore their "legal troubles."

[BoSox21]

biggest music death since Elvis I'd say

[CrespoBlows]

biggest music death since Elvis I'd say

John Lennon.

[BoSox21]

this is bigger than Lennon

[yankeessuck013]

I like how you spun that. His "legal troubles." Let's excuse him for his pedophilia because he donated to a few charities. Should have died about 50 molested children ago.

I really don't like wishing death on anyone or speaking ill of the death. Go ahead if you want.

[CrespoBlows]

this is bigger than Lennon

I'd agree with you if this happened 15 years ago.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

I like how you spun that. His "legal troubles." Let's excuse him for his pedophilia because he donated to a few charities. Should have died about 50 molested children ago.


Wow. He should of died for something that was SPECULATED? It was never proven he molested.

[CrespoBlows]

I really don't like wishing death on anyone or speaking ill of the death. Go ahead if you want.

http://blogofhilarity.com/wp-content/uploads/john-wayne-gacy.jpg

rip gacy :( hez dead 4eva he did sum gr8t work wit charities and funded many PROGRESSIVE causes. RIP

[BoSox21]

I'm talking overall impact on music in general. Of course, there's really no facts to prove either.

[Keeper]

Wow. He should of died for something that was SPECULATED? It was never proven he molested.

Gary Glitter says hello, douche bag.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Gary Glitter says hello, douche bag.


Gary GLitter was actually CONVICTED of some shit. Micheal Jackson was not.

Either way, fuck you. Way to call someone a douche bag that wasn't even being an asshole toward you. Way to take it in the ass, princess.

[BoSox21]

ill tell you one thing, its gonna be a long ass time before you hear anyone in the media even reference the child molesting thing

[CrespoBlows]

Wow. He should of died for something that was SPECULATED? It was never proven he molested.

Yeah, they were just resting their dicks in MJ's mouth.

[Keeper]

Gary GLitter was actually CONVICTED of some shit. Micheal Jackson was not.

Either way, fuck you. Way to call someone a douche bag that wasn't even being an asshole toward you. Way to take it in the ass, princess.

You were being an asshole towards humanity for being so thick.

[yankeessuck013]

There's some classy people over here at Talksox

[BigPapiEnFuego]

You were being an asshole towards humanity for being so thick.

Are you serious? That's fucking stupid. Get the hell out of here

[Keeper]

There's some classy people over here at Talksox

And you're not one of them. Self-righteous dumbass. I defend evil men who die because it's insensitive to call a spade a spade.

[Dipre]

This is going places.....

Chill the fuck out plz.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Self-righteous dumbass.

The pot calling the kettle black.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

You were being an asshole towards humanity for being so thick.
One fail among many.

[MANNYHOF24]

One fail among many.

This is where fail applies.

[Dipre]

Could you guys stop inciting a shitstorm?

kthxbai.

[CrespoBlows]

Why show sympathy toward pedophiles?

[Coco's Disciples]

This is going places.....

Chill the fuck out plz.


Could you guys stop inciting a shitstorm?

kthxbai.

.

Personal attacks need to stop.

[redsoxrules]

Yeah, they were just resting their dicks in MJ's mouth.

OMF....LOL

[a700hitter]

His good friend Liz Taylor is still alive. She's had all sorts of close brushes with death and all sorts of health problems, but she's still alive and she's about 100.

[Spudboy]

Wow. I can't believe that you all feel so strongly about one person's passing. In a way, that's good. We should never take life, including the life of another, for granted. Having said that, and with all due respect for Micheal Jackson and the members of the board, I agree with Crespo and Keeper. While Jackson was very entertaining, he was clearly flawed as a human being. To dismiss his off-stage activities as simply "legal problems" is to burying your head in the sand. While no criminal charges were ever substantiated against M.J., he sure did have some disturbing habits. Sleeping with young boys is not normally accepted as healthy human behavior. While circumstantial, the body of evidence is overwhelming.

I'm sorry that he has died, but his death is shallow when compared to the lives of others that have been snuffed out in the name of good. Namely, the young men and women who have given their lives for our country and humanity in conflicts around the world as examples.

As far as his significance as an entertainer, and to keep things in perspective, he was a product. Not an artist. Let's not forget Marvin Gaye, Little Richard (the true King of Rock), Otis Reading, Lew Rawls, Wilson Picket, Stevie Wonder, and many others.

Rest in peace Micheal Jackson.

[Gom]

Jacko died? Finally.

Oh...Michael Jackson. My bad. Never mind. Carry on.

[26 to 6]

good i don't give a fuck about michael jackson

[Teddyballgame10]

There's some classy people over here at Talksox


This is going places.....

Chill the fuck out plz.

Yes relaxxxxxxxxx.

[TheKilo]

In honor of Michael Jackson, all MLB players will wear gloves on one hand for the entire day today to remember him.

[jacksonianmarch]

I bet he's roasting on a spit in the 7th level of dante's infero. I dont care if you make the biggest breakthrough in the history of mankind (Dr. Edward Jenner), if you plow kids, you should be shot in the face with a 12 gauge

[BoSox21]

IMO today is a day to celebrate the performer and the contributions he made to the world of music. there's plenty of time to condemn the person in the future

[Mr Crunchy]

Never convicted?Neither was OJ, Hitler, Stalin or Beretta.
North Korea has a boat sailing towards Hawaii, Iran is close to civil war, we're pulling our kids out of Iraqi cities on Tuesday, Afghanland is once again a shit fight, the Pakistani army is making huge gains and their civilians are now fighting along with them against the Taliban.
and Michael Jackson, a man who paid off a half dozen families after diddling with their kids is dead.
Let the truth be told,a junkie ,weirdo, diddler is gone.
He said on the BBC in front of 40,000,000 tv viewers in the British Isles
""Theres nothing more beautiful than sharing your bed and your love with a boy, doesnt everyone deserve to be loved, theres nothing wrong with sharing your bed with a child""...
My daughter didnt know he was black until last year, that was one fucked up dude that usurped the US Judicial system with money and made a mockery out of the court room whether it be dressing up like Sargent Fukin Pepper or coming to court with his jammies on.
He went broke and fucked over his creditors as was reported this morning to the tune of 400,000,000.00but he was very talented and had a big impact on the music industry for 40 years.
Theres no doubt about his talent and his ability to entertain
Chuck Sullivan,son of Pats owner Billy Sullivan went broke promoting his tour after the Thriller album was cut. the town of Foxboro wouldnt allow Jackson to play at Schaefer Stadium due to the element he brought into the stadiums(14 year old girls and men like Perez Hilton).

Im not conflicted
I got a 13 yr old son who stands 6'1 175 and would beat the piss out of a diddler but none the less as a father I got no room for sympathy cause Jackson got away with raping children and man o man o manoschevitz I dont have it in my heart to give a fuck about people like that whether their daddies spanked them or not...You dont pay blackmail money if your innocent and this guy paid till it hurt.
Mother fucker brought Emmanuel Lewis to the Grammy's 1 year when the kid was like 9.
His best friend was McCauley Culkin,ever wonder why he was so fucked up?
The only people who should be mourning today are the lawyers that took him for 9 figures over the years in legal fees ,payouts and kickbacks and his family members who truly loved him and then those who look past his actions as a man and are simply in love with his talent.
I believe in a just God and I also believe that diddlers get butt fucked dry for eternity.
See ya in hell bitch.

[jacksonianmarch]

agree Crunchy. It is amazing that someone can do something so heinous yet be a good musician and get a pass for it. HE FUCKED YOUNG BOYS IN THE ASS AFTER DRUGGING THEM WITH WINE. Hell, even criminals have a code. If he went to jail, his asshole would have stretched from his mid back to his toes just prior to him getting shanked.

[Mr Crunchy]

I used to giggle and make jokes about his unhealthy relationships with kids....till i had my own.
Then it wasnt so funny, theres plenty of guilt to go around here including the parents who essentially pimped their kids off sending them overnight to Jacksons house with intent to set his ass up good.
He couldnt control himself, the pimping parents got paid and we all let it go by the wayside cause Michael was so sweet.

[schillingouttheks]

Not a good week to be famous. Billy Mays was found dead in his home. Maybe all that OxiClean he was around finally got to him?

Linky. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_tv_pitchman_billy_mays_found_dead_in_florida_ho me.html)

[Dutchy]

Not a good week to be famous. Billy Mays was found dead in his home. Maybe all that OxiClean he was around finally got to him?

Linky. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_tv_pitchman_billy_mays_found_dead_in_florida_ho me.html)

Noooooooooooooooo! He has a reality TV show right now, they're gonna cash in on this big time.

[a700hitter]

Not a good week to be famous. Billy Mays was found dead in his home. Maybe all that OxiClean he was around finally got to him?

Linky. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_tv_pitchman_billy_mays_found_dead_in_florida_ho me.html)I didn't hear about that.

[a700hitter]

What next ... the ShamWow guy?

[NJRedSoxFan]

I didnt particulary care about his personal life or whatever but one of most dynamic musicians ever!!!

RIP MJ!

[Spudboy]

Not a good week to be famous. Billy Mays was found dead in his home. Maybe all that OxiClean he was around finally got to him?

Linky. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_tv_pitchman_billy_mays_found_dead_in_florida_ho me.html)

That's too bad. I liked his shtick. "Nobody likes dings and dents".

[Dutchy]

Michael Jackson AND Billy Mays? I'm pretty sure the Mayans mentioned this as a sign of a apocalypse.

[jacksonianmarch]

What next ... the ShamWow guy?

http://daveandthomas.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sham_wow_mug_shot-500x316.jpg

[jacksonianmarch]

btw, just watched some of the MTV tribute. His music was really revolutionary and he was a great entertainer. Too bad he was such a fuckup off the stage, cause that is what will relegate him to the 7th level of Dantae's inferno

[Dutchy]

http://daveandthomas.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sham_wow_mug_shot-500x316.jpg

Arrested for "batting a hooker"? WOW.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/27/vince-shlomi-shamwow-pitc_n_180210.html

The fame really must have gone to his head :rolleyes:

[jacksonianmarch]

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9895/bmh.jpg

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

lulz

[NJRedSoxFan]

Not a good week to be famous. Billy Mays was found dead in his home. Maybe all that OxiClean he was around finally got to him?

Linky. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_tv_pitchman_billy_mays_found_dead_in_florida_ho me.html)

I was thinking too much Mighty Puddy.

[BoSox21]

he mixed up Orange Clean with Orange Juice and drank the wrong one

[HeadOfSoxNation]

Never convicted?Neither was OJ, Hitler, Stalin or Beretta.
North Korea has a boat sailing towards Hawaii, Iran is close to civil war, we're pulling our kids out of Iraqi cities on Tuesday, Afghanland is once again a shit fight, the Pakistani army is making huge gains and their civilians are now fighting along with them against the Taliban.
and Michael Jackson, a man who paid off a half dozen families after diddling with their kids is dead.
Let the truth be told,a junkie ,weirdo, diddler is gone.
He said on the BBC in front of 40,000,000 tv viewers in the British Isles
""Theres nothing more beautiful than sharing your bed and your love with a boy, doesnt everyone deserve to be loved, theres nothing wrong with sharing your bed with a child""...
My daughter didnt know he was black until last year, that was one fucked up dude that usurped the US Judicial system with money and made a mockery out of the court room whether it be dressing up like Sargent Fukin Pepper or coming to court with his jammies on.
He went broke and fucked over his creditors as was reported this morning to the tune of 400,000,000.00but he was very talented and had a big impact on the music industry for 40 years.
Theres no doubt about his talent and his ability to entertain
Chuck Sullivan,son of Pats owner Billy Sullivan went broke promoting his tour after the Thriller album was cut. the town of Foxboro wouldnt allow Jackson to play at Schaefer Stadium due to the element he brought into the stadiums(14 year old girls and men like Perez Hilton).

Im not conflicted
I got a 13 yr old son who stands 6'1 175 and would beat the piss out of a diddler but none the less as a father I got no room for sympathy cause Jackson got away with raping children and man o man o manoschevitz I dont have it in my heart to give a fuck about people like that whether their daddies spanked them or not...You dont pay blackmail money if your innocent and this guy paid till it hurt.
Mother fucker brought Emmanuel Lewis to the Grammy's 1 year when the kid was like 9.
His best friend was McCauley Culkin,ever wonder why he was so fucked up?
The only people who should be mourning today are the lawyers that took him for 9 figures over the years in legal fees ,payouts and kickbacks and his family members who truly loved him and then those who look past his actions as a man and are simply in love with his talent.
I believe in a just God and I also believe that diddlers get butt fucked dry for eternity.
See ya in hell bitch.

Agree and disagree. I see your point...the evidence is overwhelming...but what if...WHAT IF...the guy was just plain weird? Like what if he wasn't a child molester, he was just a straaaange, strange cat? I'm not saying sharing your bed with kids is normal...but what if that's truly all it was? The evidence is staggering, but there is the slightest slightest doubt in my mind.

And, to being a father...say someone did molest your son...is there any amount of money that you'd be willing to settle for to let the guy walk? I don't have a child of my own, but I have a niece...if anyone were to lay a single finger on her in a way I didn't feel proper, I don't know that the case would ever get to trial prior to me murdering whoever it was myself. But if it did slip past me and get to court, you bet I'd want them hung from the highest tree. AFTER a conviction I would go after them in a civil court to ensure every last dime of their money becomes hers. That's what casts the biggest shadow for me...seems like extortion at its core...:dunno:

[BoSox21]

the jury of public opinion has already reached a verdict on Jackson, nothing will ever change that

[bosoxgirl34]

just cause a jury found a very rich man not guilty doesnt mean he didnt do it.....he was the creepiest person alive

[Soxfan#1]

the jury of public opinion has already reached a verdict on Jackson, nothing will ever change that

Ever heard of jury nullification? I'm not saying I believe he was guilty, but I can't say he was truly innocent either.

[BoSox21]

im not talking about the jury he faced in court. im talking about the general public has already formed their opinion on whether MJ fucked boys in the ass or not and nothing can change that

[Dipre]

im not talking about the jury he faced in court. im talking about the general public has already formed their opinion on whether MJ fucked boys in the ass or not and nothing can change that

The truth is right there.

I've always thought the families of the so-called "raped boys" were nothing but members of a get-rich quick scam, because honestly, no matter how twisted you are, if someone really raped a child you brought into this world, you want his ass in jail no matter the amount of money offered.

Where are the death threats from the families?

Where's the indignation?

Where's the pain?

I never saw any of that from the families, and that's what makes me call bullshit on it.

I'm not trying to say he's innocent, i just really doubt the paid off families' intentions.

[BoSox21]

screw the families, all those kids are probably in their early 20s by now, why arent they speaking up?

[bosoxgirl34]

oh gotcha well going with that lol i think he did cause there was something really wrong with him i think he may havent started out with good intentions about really helping kids but then something went really wrong...i do also blame the parents cause i dont care who you are famous or not my kids will not spend the night at a strangers house and def not in the same bed

[BoSox21]

for the money those families got, id leave him at the front door of neverland with a jar of lube in his hand

[a700hitter]

The truth is right there.

I've always thought the families of the so-called "raped boys" were nothing but members of a get-rich quick scam, because honestly, no matter how twisted you are, if someone really raped a child you brought into this world, you want his ass in jail no matter the amount of money offered.

Where are the death threats from the families?

Where's the indignation?

Where's the pain?

I never saw any of that from the families, and that's what makes me call bullshit on it.

I'm not trying to say he's innocent, i just really doubt the paid off families' intentions.You are a lawyer. Their silence regarding Michael jackson was no doubt a stipulation of any settlement. He was afterall buying their silence... no? The mother of his children was not even allowed to comment about Michael jackson or the kids.

[Dipre]

You are a lawyer. Their silence regarding Michael jackson was no doubt a stipulation of any settlement. He was afterall buying their silence... no? The mother of his children was not even allowed to comment about Michael jackson or the kids.

The case settlement was not made outside of a courtroom.

Your penal law, like ours,specifies that any stipulation made in a settlement case must be saved in public records so the public be able to access it.

If it had been an outside-court settlement your argument might have held water.

[a700hitter]

The case settlement was not made outside of a courtroom.

Your penal law, like ours,specifies that any stipulation made in a settlement case must be saved in public records so the public be able to access it.

If it had been an outside-court settlement your argument might have held water.What? There is very little that is known about the first settlement (1990's), rumored to be $20 million. That case was never prosecuted, and the settlement was out of court. There are also rumored to be numerous other settlements outside of court. The last case was an acquittal, so I am not sure if there was any settlement. Are you telling me that a settlement filed with a court cannot contain a provision where the parties agree not to disparage each other? That is just not accurate.

I'm not taking sides whether he was a pedophile or not. He certainly, at the very least, exercised incredibly poor judgment. I'm just saying that silence by victims who have settled financially is no indication of innocence. It is just not.

[Dipre]

What? There is very little that is known about the first settlement (1990's), rumored to be $20 million. That case was never prosecuted, and the settlement was out of court. There are also rumored to be numerous other settlements outside of court. The last case was an acquittal, so I am not sure if there was any settlement. Are you telling me that a settlement filed with a court cannot contain a provision where the parties agree not to disparage each other? That is just not accurate.

I'm not taking sides whether he was a pedophile or not. He certainly, at the very least, exercised incredibly poor judgment. I'm just saying that silence by victims who have settled financially is no indication of innocence. It is just not.

If the settlement was out of court, as you state, then you are indeed correct and my memory fails me.

But on this:

Are you telling me that a settlement filed with a court cannot contain a provision where the parties agree not to disparage each other? That is just not accurate.

Absolute strawman.

It can contain the provision, but it will be held in the case record, so it will actually be known that such a provision was actually made.

That's why people avoid in-court settlements at all costs.

[a700hitter]

If the settlement was out of court, as you state, then you are indeed correct and my memory fails me.

But on this:

Are you telling me that a settlement filed with a court cannot contain a provision where the parties agree not to disparage each other? That is just not accurate.

Absolute strawman.

It can contain the provision, but it will be held in the case record, so it will actually be known that such a provision was actually made.

That's why people avoid in-court settlements at all costs.

I don't even know if there is an in court settlement of any claims against him, but there's no strawman here. The agreement could have a gag order. Just because we don't know what's in any such settlement doesn't mean that there is no gag order. We haven't seen any such settlement agreement, so how could we know?

[Dipre]

I don't even know if there is an in court settlement of any claims against him, but there's no strawman here. The agreement could have a gag order. Just because we don't know what's in any such settlement doesn't mean that there is no gag order. We haven't seen any such settlement agreement, so how could we know?

Ok we got off on the wrong foot.

Allow me to explain.

You said they might have agreed to not discuss the case outside of court.

I said that, to my recollection, it was an in-court settlement, and if it in fact was in-court, then it'd be public domain that such a clause was part of the settlement, basically proving MJ's guilt, and that, since such a thing was never mentioned, it casts a shadow of doubt on the nature of the actual settlement.

You corrected me on the nature of the settlement, saying it was outside-of-court, to which i admitted to being wrong if such was the case.

Clear now?

[a700hitter]

Ok we got off on the wrong foot.

Allow me to explain.

You said they might have agreed to not discuss the case outside of court.

I said that, to my recollection, it was an in-court settlement, and if it in fact was in-court, then it'd be public domain that such a clause was part of the settlement, basically proving MJ's guilt, and that, since such a thing was never mentioned, it casts a shadow of doubt on the nature of the actual settlement.

You corrected me on the nature of the settlement, saying it was outside-of-court, to which i admitted to being wrong if such was the case.

Clear now?Got it.

Let me say that regardless of his guilt or innocence, his was a tragic life. The biggest irony of all is that his father who did such a great job abusing all of the jackson kids and screwing them up may get custody of Michael's kids. That has to be the last thing that Jackson wanted.

[Dipre]

Got it.

Let me say that regardless of his guilt or innocence, his was a tragic life. The biggest irony of all is that his father who did such a great job abusing all of the jackson kids and screwing them up may get custody of Michael's kids. That has to be the last thing that Jackson wanted.

Seconded.

Did you know MJ's skin problems derived from his dad giving him hormones to stunt his hormonal development so he could keep his voice intact?

[a700hitter]

Seconded.

Did you know MJ's skin problems derived from his dad giving him hormones to stunt his hormonal development so he could keep his voice intact?I didn 't know that.

[Dipre]

I didn 't know that.

Yup.

My mother's a huge MJ fan, so she collects every piece of biographic info on him that she can, and she was quite surprised when she found that out.

[ms_sox]

I love MJ's music, but this memorial service is too outlandish for me. On every...single...channel. Luckily, I can turn it off.

I'll stick to the music.

[617_suffolkcounty_standup]

I'm not one to kick the dead horse. But this guy was a true lowlife. To be honest I think he did molest those kids but lets say he didn't for a second. Sleeping in the same bed with children is stepping over lines. Great entertainer, but a lowlife druggie off the stage.

[ms_sox]

MJ was a musical genius, but imo he belonged in a nut hatch, even if you take away the pedophile allegations. He needed some serious mental help, and he never got it. As they say, if you're poor, you're crazy...if you're rich, you're eccentric.

[Dutchy]

I'm not one to kick the dead horse. But this guy was a true lowlife. To be honest I think he did molest those kids but lets say he didn't for a second. Sleeping in the same bed with children is stepping over lines. Great entertainer, but a lowlife druggie off the stage.

He was severely abused as a child. Not to say that excuses his behavior (if he actually did abuse children) but so often child abuse is a cycle of victimization. If he received some kind of counseling or intervention, perhaps he wouldn't have turned out the way he did.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Great entertainer, but a lowlife druggie off the stage.


This is interchangable with any entertainer out there pretty much.