October 26th @ St. Louis: World Series Game 3

[element1151]

World Series Game #3: Boston Red Sox @ St. Louis Cardinals
Date: October 26th 2004
First Pitch: 8:00 PM, Busch Stadium, St. Louis
TV: Fox
Series: Sox lead, 2-0

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/50x50/bos.gif >>> (9-3) >>> http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/118377.jpg Martinez 16-9, 3.90 ERA
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http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/50x50/stl.gif >>> (7-6) >>> http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/122987.jpg Suppan 16-9, 4.16 ERA

Pitcher's stats are regular season.

Series headed to St. Louis.

[RedSoxRooter]

It's funny how close their stats look on paper. I mean, 1/4 run in ERA?

[stocker323]

Suppan's record is a bit skewed because of the run support that he gets.

[mosox]

Pedro has come along way from under the mango tree. This is the game he's waited for since he came to Boston and I have a feeling he will be explosive.
He's got 7 days rest and the weather is warm, the way he likes to pitch.
Like most of the Cards pitchers Suppan throws high 80's and is around the plate, just the type of pitcher Sox hitters like. Trot needs to break out his mini slump.
GO SOX!!!!

[yagmaster]

I'm expecting an incredible start from Pedro. He's throwing harder than he has in years, and is on extra rest. My prediction, 5 - 2 Sox.

[element1151]

Originally posted by mosox@Oct 26 2004, 08:25 AM
Pedro has come along way from under the mango tree.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[yeszir]

We could lose all 3 games in St. Louis and I'd still feel pretty comfortable coming back to Fenway.

[yagmaster]

We could lose all 3 games in St. Louis and I'd still feel pretty comfortable coming back to Fenway.

I'm sure that's what the Yankees fans said. Look how that turned out :D

[yeszir]

Game on. I'm excited.

[yeszir]

And sox are off to a quick lead. :D

[yagmaster]

Not a good start for Pedro. Bases loaded, one out, come on Petey!

[yeszir]

Crap. He's wild and pitching 88. Great.

[yagmaster]

What a play by Manny and Varitek. Way to protect the lead.

[yeszir]

I'm shocked we got out of that.

[element1151]

That was a great play.

[yagmaster]

He looked a lot better that inning. I'm still nervous though.

[yagmaster]

WOW! Thank you for being retarded St. Louis :)

[yankeessuck013]

give credit to papi tho

[element1151]

What was Suppan doing, clearly has no idea of how to run the bases, or the pressure just got to him.

[yeszir]

Originally posted by element1151@Oct 26 2004, 09:43 PM
What was Suppan doing, clearly has no idea of how to run the bases, or the pressure just got to him.
He's a pitcher, not used to being in base running situations I guess.

[CrespoBlows]

good scoop by Papi, my goddamn power keeps going out so I had to see the replay, I heard Jon Miller going nuts though

[yeszir]

Originally posted by CrespoBlows@Oct 26 2004, 09:55 PM
good scoop by Papi, my goddamn power keeps going out so I had to see the replay, I heard Jon Miller going nuts though
Power going out? I thought the hurricanes had stopped. :lol:

[element1151]

Pedro got a walk!!!

[yagmaster]

I have been very impressed by the whole team, but two players especially so far this game. Pedro, but for his rocky (but harmless) start, has been dominant. Cabrera has been hitting the top off the ball. It's amazing what we can find from Montreal.

[schillingouttheks]

francona played for montreal in 1982 also...if that counts..

[yeszir]

Pedro has been absolutely amazing since that rocky start. He's just shutting them down.

[schillingouttheks]

5 more outs and counting...please god we go up 3-0 and dont pull a yanks.

[schillingouttheks]

one inning left...

[yeszir]

I can't believe it. The Red Sox are going to win the World Series. THE WORLD SERIES!!!! THE RED SOX WILL WIN IT! OH MY GOD.

[jlcrss9]

3-0 series lead...i smell a sweep.

GO SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RedSoxRooter]

All I can say is: HOLY NUT!

[yeszir]

Am I the only one who isnt as excited as they should be though? I dunno....this just doesnt seem like the world series to me. *sigh*, I wish they could win it at Fenway.

[stocker323]

Calm down everyone there's still ONE more to go don't go celebrating yet. Last time I thought my team had a sure series win, the Bruins laid an egg against the Canadiens and blew a 3-1 series lead. Anything can happen.

[ahhchon]

what a game by pistol petey. my all time fav. pitcher finally gets a big W and dominated in the post season.

john

[yeszir]

Originally posted by stocker323@Oct 26 2004, 11:44 PM
Calm down everyone there's still ONE more to go don't go celebrating yet. Last time I thought my team had a sure series win, the Bruins laid an egg against the Canadiens and blew a 3-1 series lead. Anything can happen.
Oh shush. The one time its happened it was the sox. This is destiny man, destiny!

[RedSoxRooter]

Originally posted by yeszir@Oct 26 2004, 11:43 PM
Am I the only one who isnt as excited as they should be though? I dunno....this just doesnt seem like the world series to me. *sigh*, I wish they could win it at Fenway.
Ok. I like you. But are you crazy? I'm 31. Saw '86 and absolutley cried to death that year. When you smell a kill, you go for it. Who cares about how "perfect" it is.

[element1151]

It would be amazing if the Cards won 4 in a row like we did against the Yanks.

[RedSoxRooter]

Originally posted by element1151@Oct 26 2004, 11:48 PM
It would be amazing if the Cards won 4 in a row like we did against the Yanks.
FU. Bastard.

[schillingouttheks]

Originally posted by element1151@Oct 26 2004, 11:48 PM
It would be amazing if the Cards won 4 in a row like we did against the Yanks.
No, it would'nt. In 3 words:

It would suck.

It would NOT be cool.

[schillingouttheks]

Originally posted by yeszir@Oct 26 2004, 11:43 PM
Am I the only one who isnt as excited as they should be though? I dunno....this just doesnt seem like the world series to me. *sigh*, I wish they could win it at Fenway.
I too am not that excited, but when you think about it, I wasn't that excited about the ALCS until we actually won it. If we win the World Series, I may actually die of happiness.

P.S.-If I see another sign/thing that has to do with the curse I'm gunna smack someone.

[CalvnHobs6]

All I know is that I've been shaking since the third inning. I probably won't be able to sleep for days.

[Beaneater]

No, Yeszir, you're not the only one. I think I expended all my visceral energy on the Yanks series. And truth be told, these games haven't been that tense. OK, we made Game 1 tense with our bad fielding, but Games 2 and 3 were nice sedate wins. It's hard to get that rah-rah gut-churning feeling when you go up in the 1st inning and don't trail again in the game.

Amazing factoid of the night: the Cards have not led in this series.

Keys of the game:
1) Have I mentioned 2-out hitting? Good gracious, we are going nuts with 2 outs. If that continues in Game 4, this series is over.
1b) As a subset of the above, has anyone else noticed that Cabrera is a beast when he has 2 strikes on him? I would love to see the stats on how many of his hits this postseason have come with 2 strikes.
2) Petey. Wow. He was throwing some serious BBs (and I don't mean walks). He had a great quote after the game (from memory so it won't be word for word): "That [me calling the Yankees my daddy] was after one game when I was frustrated. But I can be anyone's daddy on any given night." Cards got adopted tonight.
3) Manny doesn't have a cannon, but his throw from LF was right on the money in the 1st. The whole ballgame has a different feel if the Cards tie it in the 1st.

You have to think that Lowe vs. Marquis favors us.

If I'm LaRussa, I've got to give serious thought to sending out the bullpen in the 1st inning. Haren pitches 3 innings, King pitches two, Reyes pitches two, etc. I mean, the Cards' starters are getting pwned ;) in this series.

October 27th is Mrs. Beaneater's birthday, so I'm hoping the Sox deliver a fine present tomorrow.

GO SOX!!!! SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!!

[RedSoxRooter]

OK. you guys are nuts. I don't understand. Don't you want to win?

[Beaneater]

Originally posted by RedSoxRooter@Oct 26 2004, 11:45 PM
OK. you guys are nuts. I don't understand. Don't you want to win?
Yeah, I want to win. If we lose the next 4, I will probably end up at the Happy Acres Home For Incurably Insane People Who Have Had Their Psyches Destroyed By The Red Sox.

All I'm saying is that when the games aren't tight, I'm not as likely to be jumping up and down and screaming at the TV. I'm not as likely to secrete so much stomach acid that I give myself a full-body ulcer. It's not that I'm less into the game or that I don't want the Sox to win or that I'm not happy. But the fact is that games 4-6 of the ALCS were some of the most gut-wrenching baseball games I have ever seen, and I can't help but feel like this soon-to-be sweep (I hope) is not as dramatic as the ALCS.

Probably has something to do with the competition, too. I hate the Yankees. I don't hate the Cards. They seem like nice enough guys, and they have the good sense not to be in the AL East. Our World Series was the ALCS, and the Cards just happened to the unlucky team that had to be the losers to our inevitable victory (at least, that's the way it seems right now).

Or here's another analogy, if it will help you understand how I think I feel. Our title run is like a rock being pushed to the top of a hill and then being allowed to roll down the other side. ALCS Game 7 was the top of the hill. In Games 1-3 the rock was rolling backwards, and in Games 4-6 we barely got that rock pushed up to the crest of the hill, but in Game 7 we gave it that last little push. The first games of the WS were still crucial, as the rock might have gotten stuck somewhere on its way down. But it didn't, and now the rock is rolling fast. So the drama is over.

I know, I know, you have two devastating objections:
1) "We haven't won yet!" True, but as yeszir helpfully pointed out, we will. These Sox are not going to be the first team to come back from 0-3 and then immediately become the second team to choke when up 3-0. Of the four games that are left, I see the Cards winning one. Game 4 is not one of them. Neither are Games 6 or 7 in Fenway. I know, I could be wrong, and often have been before. But we are not going to lose this Series.
2) "This is the WORLD SERIES, you toolbox!" I know. That is baffling to me, too. I should be more pumped. We'll see how I feel when we win it. If I'm not pumped then, I'll go see a shrink.

[mosox]

I was at the game last night and it was a blast. A good number of Sox fans in the upper deck and we were very vocal. The Sox look like a team that is "locked in."
Pedro's change up was unreal getting hitters to check swing on 2-0 counts, Manny was amazing and Papi looked great at first.

[vaman61]

"This is the WORLD SERIES, you toolbox!" I know. That is baffling to me, too. I should be more pumped. We'll see how I feel when we win it. If I'm not pumped then, I'll go see a shrink.

For sheer entertainment value, it is hard to imagine topping the ALCS. The World Series games - so far - have not been close and thus, though interesting, they have not been exciting. I want to the Sox to win as much as anyone - I've been a fan since 1975 - but you always want the juice-flowing factor. Maybe the Red Sox-Yankees Epic Battle of last week burned me out, I don't know. This has been a let down. The Cards seem wooden - the small ball and fast, creative base-running aren't there. Neverthless, I would like to have it end tonight, and all day today I will be visiualizing the last three outs and finally, putting to bed all of the frustrations which have burdened my formative years!"

[elsrbueno]

I have to admit that last Saturday I was thinking to myself: "Well, if we don't win it this year, AT LEAST we beat the Yankees."

The World Series hasn't been as emotional as the ALCS, because I don't have that same hatred for the Cardinals. That being said, a World Series win won't feel real until the last out is recorded. This team has been closer to a championship and let it slip, so I personally won't be celebrating UNTIL that last out is recorded.

I am confident. This team is playing SO well right now. We are OOOOH so close to victory. OOOOH so close to never hearing "1918" again. Please guys, don't let us down.

I can't wait for tonight. C'mon Derek Lowe and company!

[yeszir]

I think the problem is that now, up 3-0, I am too confident in this team. None of the games have really been exciting, in fact they've been downright sloppy. No close games, no ortiz game winning hits. The ALCS was the true world series of this year, and it really has taken away from the real one.

Don't get me wrong, i'd still (and I will still be) overjoyed when they win, but I dont think it will hit me until I see 6 million screaming people in Boston at the parade. :D

[elsrbueno]

Originally posted by yeszir@Oct 27 2004, 10:32 AM
I think the problem is that now, up 3-0, I am too confident in this team. None of the games have really been exciting, in fact they've been downright sloppy. No close games, no ortiz game winning hits. The ALCS was the true world series of this year, and it really has taken away from the real one.

Don't get me wrong, i'd still (and I will still be) overjoyed when they win, but I dont think it will hit me until I see 6 million screaming people in Boston at the parade. :D
I actually made fun of Yankee fans last year for saying "The ALCS was the REAL World Series," because I thought they were just saying that because they lost. They probably WERE just saying it, but I can see where that might be true for some.

In New England, you just can't match Red Sox/Yankees. Can't be done. I was so emotionally invested in the ALCS that I lost sleep, showed up late for work, re-visited the painful moments AND the winning moments over and over again in my head....

I slept like a baby last night. Maybe it's because the Sox are comfortably ahead, maybe it's because I still haven't recovered from the ALCS. Who knows.

When it happens (be it 2004 or sometime in the near future), Winning a World Series will be incredible feeling.

What will happen when the Red Sox win the World Series? to their fans? to the city? Who knows. Certainly nobody alive can predict what will happen....

I hope we all find out tonight.

[element1151]

Originally posted by schillingouttheks+Oct 26 2004, 08:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (schillingouttheks &#064; Oct 26 2004, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-element1151@Oct 26 2004, 11:48 PM
It would be amazing if the Cards won 4 in a row like we did against the Yanks.
No, it would&#39;nt. In 3 words:

It would suck.

It would NOT be cool. [/b][/quote]
Hey, i know it would suck, i didn&#39;t mean amazing as in a good thing, i meant it as like ironic because it is something that we had just overcome ourselves. I think we will win as much as anyone does, but we can&#39;t act like we have it until the final game is over.

[element1151]

Originally posted by RedSoxRooter@Oct 26 2004, 09:45 PM
OK. you guys are nuts. I don&#39;t understand. Don&#39;t you want to win?
Yes, but it feels odd after all of these years of losing to finally do it. I still won&#39;t believe it if we win one more game, it would just be unbelievable. Also like vaman said, nothing could top the drama of the ALCS win over the Yanks. I really want them to win. Tonight.

[yeszir]

Originally posted by element1151+Oct 27 2004, 04:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (element1151 @ Oct 27 2004, 04:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RedSoxRooter@Oct 26 2004, 09:45 PM
OK. you guys are nuts. I don&#39;t understand. Don&#39;t you want to win?
Yes, but it feels odd after all of these years of losing to finally do it. I still won&#39;t believe it if we win one more game, it would just be unbelievable. Also like vaman said, nothing could top the drama of the ALCS win over the Yanks. I really want them to win. Tonight. [/b][/quote]
Same here. I really wont believe it. I don&#39;t know when it will hit me really.