The Official Ken Griffey Jr. Thread

[CalvnHobs6]

I am so mad at Griffey it hurts. This is a guy who right now should have 650 homeruns. Instead, he is 9 away from 500 (which is still a lot, don't get me wrong) and a ticket into the HOF.

Is he among the best ever? What do you all think?

[yeszir]

I was just thinking this. He certainly could have been the best ever, with around 600+ homeruns. More than Bonds perhaps. But no, he has a penchant for running into walls. So now hes stuck at 491. A great player, no doubt, and most likely in the hall, but not one of the best ever.

It's a shame, but he still has some years left in him.

[CalvnHobs6]

Edit - he hit another one tonight. A three run shot. 8 to go.

[Old Hoss]

What's wrong with running into walls? If he's giving an all-out effort and gets hurt, well it shows that he's not just thinking of his stats. Who, besides him, should it bother how many home runs he has?

[yagmaster]

I really liked Griffey when I got to see him more often as a Mariner. With his constant injuries and National League trade, I haven't seen much of him recently. To see him playing well is awesome, and I feel good for one of the clasiest players in the game.

[yeszir]

Will he hit 500 today? He hit his 499th in the second inning of today's game. He's been on a tear recently.

[RedSoxRooter]

I hope so. B)

[roary]

If not today, tomorrow. After being forgotten for so long, he's back with a vengeance, acting like the player we all thought he would be before all these injuries started hitting him (and before he started hitting walls).

[yeszir]

Good idea to merge, whoever did it. ;)

[Pedro]

Griffey is ridiculous... best swing. Ever. Also one of the best centerfielders to ever play as his 10 consecutive gold gloves can attest.

[YanksHater213]

Originally posted by Pedro@Jun 13 2004, 07:30 PM
Griffey is ridiculous... best swing. Ever. Also one of the best centerfielders to ever play as his 10 consecutive gold gloves can attest.
would you have said that last 2 seasons?

i doubt it

but no doubt he is one of the best lefthanded hitters in the game today

[Pedro]

Originally posted by YanksHater213+Jun 13 2004, 08:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YanksHater213 @ Jun 13 2004, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pedro@Jun 13 2004, 07:30 PM
Griffey is ridiculous... best swing. Ever. Also one of the best centerfielders to ever play as his 10 consecutive gold gloves can attest.
would you have said that last 2 seasons?

i doubt it

but no doubt he is one of the best lefthanded hitters in the game today [/b][/quote]
Sure, why wouldn&#39;t I have said that? Two years ago he still already had seven 40+ HR seasons and 10 Gold Gloves.

[CalvnHobs6]

One away Griffey...he&#39;ll get it his next start on a grand slam.

[yeszir]

Originally posted by CalvnHobs6@Jun 13 2004, 10:11 PM
One away Griffey...he&#39;ll get it his next start on a grand slam.
That would be one hell of a way to get it, wouldnt it? I wonder how many people have done it that way.

[CalvnHobs6]

Originally posted by yeszir@Jun 13 2004, 06:09 PM
Good idea to merge, whoever did it. ;)
I agree. Whoever merged the threads is the greatest super mod on the planet ever.

[roary]

Any second now, he&#39;ll do it. The Reds game is in progress, and Griffey is facing Bierbrodt. In fact, he&#39;s up now.

[roary]

Fly out. 500 lives another day....

[Pedro]

Griffey has said that getting to 500 has been a distraction for the team. Could be right, they&#39;ve lost 7 of their last 10.

Has anyone noticed what a freak Sean Casey has been this season during all this Griffey hysteria?

[yeszir]

And the Reds are only two back in the Central. Just goes to show how one statistic can overshadow and entire team. (ie: Has anyone ever heard of the San Francisco Giants?)

[Pedro]

Yeah, but Bonds is just ridiculous. He&#39;s hitting .370 with a share of the league lead in homeruns despite just 135 AB&#39;s and has a 1.456 OPS... :o



Year * * * *OPS

1992 * * * 1.080
1993 * * * 1.136
1994 * * * 1.073
1995 * * * 1.009
1996 * * * 1.076
1997 * * * 1.031
1998 * * * 1.047
1999 * * * 1.006
2000 * * * 1.127
2001 * * * 1.379
2002 * * * 1.381
2003 * * * 1.278
2004 * * * 1.456


Very, very impressive.... but somethin just doesn&#39;t look right towards the end of that streak. I don&#39;t have much of an opinion on it, but it is a fact that Bonds was already a 3-time MVP winner BEFORE 1994.

[yawkeyway]

That&#39;s disgusting, steroids or not, that his OPS could climb like that. Pretty soon it&#39;ll be up there in the 2 range :blink:.

Also, Pedro, how did you get it to stay formatted like that? Usually when I post statistics with the code button the formatting messes up and it goes haywire.

Griffey will be up later on in this inning. :D

[yeszir]

Well, he walked.

[Pedro]

Yes, it&#39;s very disgusting.



OPS YEAR OPS
1 Barry Bonds 2002 1.381
2 Babe Ruth 1920 1.379
3 Barry Bonds 2001 1.379
4 Babe Ruth 1921 1.359
5 Babe Ruth 1923 1.309
6 Ted Williams 1941 1.287
7 Barry Bonds 2003 1.278
8 Babe Ruth 1927 1.258
9 Ted Williams 1957 1.257
10 Babe Ruth 1926 1.253


I don&#39;t know how it lines up like that for me... Make sure you PREVIEW your post before adding the reply, and if the code looks uneven, try and move a couple numbers to the right or left and then PREVIEW again until it lines up the way you want it. Most of the time, I don&#39;t have to do that, though.

[TheFens]

He just singled. I think he&#39;s gonna be like Barry and take forever to get this 500th homerun.

[yawkeyway]

So I guess we&#39;ll have to wait another day.... but the Reds won, once again being overshadowed by Griffey&#39;s non homerun.

[roary]

Well, the Reds swept Texas, but Junior didnt get his 500th. I watched the game on ESPN 2 and everything. Damn.

[yeszir]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ffey_500_homers (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=531&e=1&u=/ap/20040620/ap_on_sp_ba_ga_su/bbn_griffey_500_homers)

Congrats to Griffey.

[YanksHater213]

he has just put himself into the company of the greatest hitters ever. great job junior

[Pedro]

Pretty cool that he did it on Father&#39;s Day with Sr. there.

Congrats, Griff&#33;

[Tek04]

congrats to griff for 500&#33;&#33;&#33;

[element1151]

Yes, it was bad to see him injured after he left the M&#39;s. He was named to the All-Century team in 2000 tho, and he probably deserves to be there.