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CrespoBlows
07-24-2004, 11:06 PM
Age: 20
Born: August 17, 1983
Resides: Woodland, CA
Height: 5-8
Weight: 180
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
Drafted: 2nd round, 2004
How Acquired: Draft
College: Arizona State
High School: Woodland HS (CA)

Season Line

.423/.485/.500 3 walks 1 K

CrespoBlows
07-24-2004, 11:06 PM
Oops I forgot here's the scouting report

Scouting Report: Small infielder had a tremendous career at Arizona State. Average power for a middle infielder, with good bat speed and excellent plate discipline. Loves the game and has fantastic instincts. Plays top-notch defense up the middle, named the 2003 National Defensive Player of the Year. Very scrappy and a great teammate.

Zenny
07-25-2004, 12:32 PM
Theo really likes him. I think he could be Mark Loretta in the future, which would make him a steal of a pick at 65th.

CrespoBlows
07-25-2004, 12:37 PM
The Red Sox are loaded with SS prospects (Ramierez, Pedoria, Soto, and Lara) Which one is the one most likely to be the "SS of the future" I like Soto a lot because he can hit the crap out of the ball and is incredibly fast. I'd rather see him play 2nd base though. Pedoria is another one I like because reminds of Eckstein/Loretta. What about you guys?

Zenny
07-25-2004, 12:45 PM
Hanley still has the most upside, no question. The other three guys seem to belong at 2B, but could probably be future SS's if groomed to be. Theo loves Pedroia, as he does Shoppach, Alvarez and Murton. I think these guys are untouchable and should provide a core set of players for the Sox future as the C, 2B, LF and SP.

The thing about Hanley is that he hasn't hit for much power, nor has he shown as much plate discipline as Theo would like. He may be traded once he gets a little older. I think his max upside would be around Edgar Renteria.

CrespoBlows
07-25-2004, 07:04 PM
Pedoria went 1-2 with a homerun (his first) and 2 walks. A promotion to Sarasota is only a few weeks away.

Zenny
08-02-2004, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by CrespoBlows@Jul 25 2004, 08:04 PM
A promotion to Sarasota is only a few weeks away.
You're the man, good call. He got promoted to Sarasota today and went 1-4 with a double.

CrespoBlows
08-02-2004, 09:31 PM
I'll probably go see him play a game in the next week or two. I hope Moss will be there by then.

Zenny
08-02-2004, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by CrespoBlows@Aug 2 2004, 10:31 PM
I'll probably go see him play a game in the next week or two. I hope Moss will be there by then.
Let us know what you think of Pedroia. Moss may actually be headed to Portland once Roneberg goes to the Olympics. That's funny, I was just saying that about Murton... :(

Zenny
08-02-2004, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Zenny@Jul 25 2004, 01:45 PM
Theo loves Pedroia, as he does Shoppach, Alvarez and Murton. I think these guys are untouchable and should provide a core set of players for the Sox future as the C, 2B, LF and SP.
I seem to be the Kiss of Death. One gone, three to go. Boy, did I call that one. :rolleyes:

elsrbueno
08-03-2004, 08:39 AM
Theo compared Pedoria to David Eckstein. He does seem to love Pedoria (along with Shoppach, Youk, Alvarez). He was saying on WEEI last night that shortstop is the deepest position in the minors (with Pedoria, Ramirez, Lara, Soto)...so some of these guys will eventually move to another team or another position.

My guess is that Pedoria would move to second base if the other guys pan out.

Gotta love a guy who hits .400 at Augusta... Looks like he was 1-4 (a double) in Sarasota in his debut.

Zenny
08-03-2004, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by elsrbueno@Aug 3 2004, 09:39 AM
Theo compared Pedoria to David Eckstein. He does seem to love Pedoria (along with Shoppach, Youk, Alvarez). He was saying on WEEI last night that shortstop is the deepest position in the minors (with Pedoria, Ramirez, Lara, Soto)...so some of these guys will eventually move to another team or another position.

My guess is that Pedoria would move to second base if the other guys pan out.

Gotta love a guy who hits .400 at Augusta... Looks like he was 1-4 (a double) in Sarasota in his debut.
I see Pedroia more like Loretta. Pedroia was a lot better than Eckstein in college in a lot tougher conference. I think he'll have a lot more doubles power with some homers.

CrespoBlows
08-03-2004, 09:38 AM
Pedoria was phenomenal in college, I can't believe he fell that far. He was a Golden Spikes award winner (top defense) first team all American, and a finalist for Player of the Year. This kid is going to be good.

elsrbueno
08-03-2004, 11:52 AM
Zennny,
I'm not positive he'll hit for a lot of power. It's a lot easier to hit homers in college against worse competition, and with the aluminium bats. A lot of doubles probably...

Zenny
08-03-2004, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by elsrbueno@Aug 3 2004, 12:52 PM
Zennny,
I'm not positive he'll hit for a lot of power. It's a lot easier to hit homers in college against worse competition, and with the aluminium bats. A lot of doubles probably...
I'm talking 15 homeruns tops, but that's about 14 more than Eckstein. 40 doubles is not out of the question every year, though.

CrespoBlows
08-04-2004, 08:06 PM
I'm not sure where the game is being played tonight, but if it's in Sarasota it's delayed. Raining down here, again. :angry:

Zenny
08-04-2004, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by CrespoBlows@Aug 4 2004, 09:06 PM
I'm not sure where the game is being played tonight, but if it's in Sarasota it's delayed. Raining down here, again. :angry:
They're playing two today. Game 1 is already complete and Peddy went 1-5 with a RBI and K. It's currently 5-0 Sox in the 5th in Lakeland. I don't know the proximity of Lakeland to Sarasota, but it looks like they are still playing.

CrespoBlows
08-04-2004, 09:36 PM
Lakeland is up near Tampa, I guess it's not raining there. Anyway, Pedoria went 2-4 and upped his BA to .308

CrespoBlows
08-05-2004, 10:45 PM
Pedoria went 1-4 with a single and a walk. Better news, David Murphy went 3-5 with a grandslam and a double.

CrespoBlows
08-06-2004, 08:51 AM
I'll be going to the game on Thursday, it's in Sarasota against Lakeland. It's 1 dollar ticket night, plus dollar everything at the concession stands (even beer!) I'll give a detailed update like Zenny did.

yeszir
08-06-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by CrespoBlows@Aug 6 2004, 09:51 AM
I'll be going to the game on Thursday, it's in Sarasota against Lakeland. It's 1 dollar ticket night, plus dollar everything at the concession stands (even beer!) I'll give a detailed update like Zenny did.
Don't get too drunk and miss his performance. First hand accounts are always the best! :D

CrespoBlows
08-07-2004, 10:06 PM
It rained again in Sarasota/Tampa area, so the game was postponed AGAIN!

CrespoBlows
08-11-2004, 08:35 PM
I hope that hurricane can stay away until 11 tommorow, I still want to go it'll probably get delayed again. Moss and Pedoria are there, great!

CrespoBlows
08-29-2004, 07:41 PM
Pedoria went 3-4 with 2 2B to up his BA to .326, his rating is now a B according to soxprospects.com

CrespoBlows
09-06-2004, 03:50 PM
Great article by Gammons over on ESPN, check out this tidbit


Tools scouts scoffed at Arizona State SS Dustin Pedroia, although he was a far better college player than Stephen Drew. Boston took him in the second round, and between Augusta and Sarasota, Pedroia hit .357 with 19 extra base hits, 19 walks, seven strikeouts and no errors in his first 42 professional games. Speaking of the Boston organization, one NL club's pro scouting coordinator said "the Red Sox have more good arms with young Latin pitchers than any other organization in the game." Led by 20-year old right-handed fireballer Anabel Sanchez, whose New York-Penn League line in 76 1/3 innings is a 1.77 ERA, 43 hits, 29 walks and 101 strikeouts. The Red Sox like pitchers who pound the strike zone -- Curt Schilling and Martinez are 1-2 in career strikeout/walk ratio -- and their top prospects at Lowell (Sanchez, Andrew Dobies, Thomas Hottovy, Kyle Bono, Scott Shoemaker, Robert Swindle) had a combined 302/57 K/BB ratio.

RedSoxRooter
11-24-2004, 09:21 PM
Good Gammo report.

Pretty good video segment on Pedroia here (link on the right) from the Arizona Fall League. I didn't realise he's the same size as Pedro..
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/video/daily.jsp

Zenny
03-24-2005, 06:08 PM
The Sox have come out and said that Dustin will be spending the year at 2B, not SS, in the Sox system. It's uncertain whether he'll be in Portland or Wilmington yet, but the way he's playing in ST and the position he'll be playing, it'll probably be Portland. His .336/.417/.523 and 13/4 BB/K in 30 games at Sarasota suggest that he's ready for the move to AA.

CrespoBlows
04-01-2005, 07:50 PM
What does that leave Hanley at? I'd prefer it if our defense up the middle looked like this by '07

2B: Pedoria
SS: Renteria
CF: H.Ramirez

I guess we can trade Moss elsewhere, which would make sense.

Zenny
04-01-2005, 11:11 PM
I guess we can trade Moss elsewhere, which would make sense.
Moss is a RF, so none of this affects him anyway. Trot may be an injury liability by '07 anyway.

CrespoBlows
04-08-2005, 03:39 PM
Pedoria opened the season going 1-3 with a walk and a single, also commited his first error of his career

CrespoBlows
04-09-2005, 11:48 AM
Pedoria continues spanking minor league pitching, going 3-4 with 2 RBI's

So that makes him 4-7 with one walk and no strikeouts.

BoSox Rule
04-20-2005, 09:42 AM
Check out these numbers baby.
Games: 11
AB: 40
H: 15
HR: 1
AVG: .375
OBP: .490
SLG: .550
OPS: 1.040
BB/K: 3.00

His name is Pedroia by the way :lol:

Zenny
06-08-2005, 01:55 PM
Pedroia's hitting .314/.395/.500 with 13 2B's, 1 3B and 7 HR's and a 25/19 BB/K. He's leaving little doubt that he should be in the running as next year's starting 2B for the Sox.

Gambit
06-09-2005, 10:38 PM
Call him up damnit - I'm getting a little sick of watching 3 and 4 strikeout games from Bellhorn... as much as I like the guy, I think Pedroia could immediately do better in the bigs than Bellhorn.

Matt

soxie thefangirl
06-09-2005, 10:55 PM
he's not even in AAA yet.

Gambit
06-10-2005, 07:14 PM
he's not even in AAA yet.
I understand - but none the less... do you think he'd strike out 170 times in a year? Bring him up I say - see how he responds.

Matt

BigPapiEnFuego
06-10-2005, 07:36 PM
He should at least get a chance. Maybe bring him up and put Vazquez down. He couldn't do any worse then Shoppach.

soxie thefangirl
06-10-2005, 08:20 PM
I agree. bring him up and send Ramon down. give it a shot.

Zenny
06-10-2005, 10:27 PM
D-Ped needs to play everyday. No use in having him sit on the bench unless there's an injury.

CrespoBlows
06-22-2005, 11:31 AM
According to WEEI Pedoria is now with the PawSox and will start tonight.

BTW, Mark Bellhorn isn't the problem with this team, we lead the league in runs. Unless Pedoria can pitch, he doesn't need to be in Boston.

soxie thefangirl
06-22-2005, 11:45 AM
That's what I've been saying. Pitching is the problem. :rolleyes:

CrespoBlows
06-22-2005, 11:50 AM
They were talking to Paplebon on Dennis & Callahan, and were asking who would be the first player from the Sea Dogs to make it to the bigs. According to Pap, Theo was at the game, probably scouting him and Pedoria. I'll bet you if Papelbon has a good start, he'll be the next one to get the call, same with Lester.

Zenny
06-22-2005, 02:01 PM
Jonny Paps got rocked last night.

yankeessuck013
06-22-2005, 02:13 PM
Top second base prospect Dustin Pedroia has been promoted from the Double-A Portland Sea Dogs to the Triple-A Pawtucket Red Sox. He will start for the PawSox tonight against the Durham Bulls at McCoy Stadium in Pawtucket, RI. Pedroia hit a two-run homer off the message board in left-center in Portland last night while Sox GM Theo Epstein was in attendance.

As recently as June 17, Pedroia was fourth in the Eastern League in batting and fifth in on-base percentage (.401) and hits. He remained the only player in the league with at least 150 at-bats who had more extra-base hits (24) than strikeouts (23). -- Boston Globe, 6.17.05

Pedroia was the Red Sox 1st pick (2nd round, 65th overall pick) of 2004 June draft and is rated as the No. 6 prospect in the Red Sox organization by Baseball America, who also rated him as having the “Best Strike Zone Discipline” in the Sox organization.

Pedroia was an All-America shortstop from 2002-04 with the Arizona State Sun Devils, who advanced in the College World Series by beating Nebraska last night. Sun Devils coach Pat Murphy recently expressed regret that Pedroia never got to play in a College World Series. “My heart goes out to Pedro,” Murphy said. “He should be here with us. He would be a great story in Omaha.”

Zenny
06-22-2005, 02:54 PM
http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/PawSox_Pedroia.jpg
Did the PawSox have to pick the picture of D-Peddy getting kicked in the nuts?

yeszir
06-22-2005, 02:59 PM
So, his name's been spelled wrong this entire time in the thread title. I fixed it. :D

riverside sluggers
06-22-2005, 05:36 PM
hmm, i was watchin pre game on nesn just now. chris snow from the boston globe was asked about dustin pedroia who has now been promoted to triple AAA and is switchin positions from short stop to 2nd base. He quoted with Mark Bellhorn in his last season of his current contract, he is only batting in the 220's and has major league leading strikeout count at 79 currently. that pretty much come 2006, dustin pedroia is a contender to take over second base

Zenny
06-22-2005, 10:18 PM
D-Peddy went 1-4 with a double in his final AB in his AAA debut. Can you say "fast-track"?
http://www.pawsox.com/files/1.1119492937.jpg

stocker323
06-23-2005, 05:48 PM
PawSox are on NESN tonight for anyone who wants to watch Pedroia, Shoppach and the rest of the gang. Tim Kester is pitching today for the PawSox.

Zenny
06-24-2005, 12:05 AM
2-4 with a 2B and BB for D-Peddy. So that's 3-8, 2 2B's and a BB in his short AAA career.

Gambit
06-24-2005, 02:27 AM
hmm, i was watchin pre game on nesn just now. chris snow from the boston globe was asked about dustin pedroia who has now been promoted to triple AAA and is switchin positions from short stop to 2nd base. He quoted with Mark Bellhorn in his last season of his current contract, he is only batting in the 220's and has major league leading strikeout count at 79 currently. that pretty much come 2006, dustin pedroia is a contender to take over second base
Contender? Christ I hope its a friggin' guarentee.

Matt

soxie thefangirl
06-24-2005, 07:24 AM
Yes. 'Cause the minor leaguers we threw into the majors this year did such a great job.

YanksHater213
06-24-2005, 07:29 AM
PawSox are on NESN tonight for anyone who wants to watch Pedroia, Shoppach and the rest of the gang. Tim Kester is pitching today for the PawSox.
Kester is pretty hilarious looking. Lanky guy. Pitched a hell of a game though.

Zenny
06-24-2005, 08:57 AM
Yes. 'Cause the minor leaguers we threw into the majors this year did such a great job.
There's a huge difference between Shoppach and Pedroia. Shopp's game is power, which causes him to strikeout a lot and have difficulty making contact. Pedroia has more walks and extra-base hits than strikeouts at both AA and AAA. Big difference. Forget speed doesn't slump, plate discipline doesn't slump.

soxie thefangirl
06-24-2005, 09:29 AM
We'll see. It just doesn't make sense to rush him. He's barely 22 I think? It's not like we NEED him now and rushing him now might make things worse.

Zenny
06-24-2005, 09:46 AM
We'll see. It just doesn't make sense to rush him. He's barely 22 I think? It's not like we NEED him now and rushing him now might make things worse.
I agree, there's no need to rush him. Let him play out the rest of the season in Pawtucket, call him up in September to give him a taste and let him compete for the '06 job.

elsrbueno
06-24-2005, 12:37 PM
I agree, there's no need to rush him. Let him play out the rest of the season in Pawtucket, call him up in September to give him a taste and let him compete for the '06 job.

Is Pedroia a base stealing threat? I understand he's got a great eye and can flat-out hit, but I'm just curious what we're in for-- how fast is he?

Gambit
06-24-2005, 01:47 PM
Yes. 'Cause the minor leaguers we threw into the majors this year did such a great job.
Who are you talking about? The pitchers? Because most of those were emergency help kind of stuff. Shoppach? He didn't get regular time, and he's kind of streaky as it is anyway.

Pedroia is a top prospect, and he's very good, and by the beginning of next year could certainly be ready to play in the bigs. I frankly don't see why he wouldn't be ready. College players generally progress through the farm systems much faster than high school players.

I certainly hope you aren't implying that since some minor leaguers (in spot playing time) have struggled up in the majors, ALL minor leaguers in the sox system will never be ready. The sox system is adequate, and will soon be very good. Don't be afraid of calling up rookies, especially replacing the king of stikeouts. I'm willing to stick with Bellhorn this year, but there is ZERO reason Pedroia shouldn't play next year if he continues to progress well.

Matt

Gambit
06-24-2005, 01:49 PM
We'll see. It just doesn't make sense to rush him. He's barely 22 I think? It's not like we NEED him now and rushing him now might make things worse.
Well I'm not sayinig bring him up RIGHT now... but I certainly would like to see him at the start of next season. I wouldn't mind seeing him a little later in the year just to get him a taste of the bigs...

You're right - no need to rush him, but I think its perfectly acceptable for him to take over for Bellhorn after this year is over.

Matt

soxie thefangirl
06-24-2005, 01:50 PM
I meant Shoppach. Who is also a top prospect.

Gambit
06-24-2005, 01:52 PM
Is Pedroia a base stealing threat? I understand he's got a great eye and can flat-out hit, but I'm just curious what we're in for-- how fast is he?
I have to admit I'm not quite sure... but I don't believe he's really that fast. Everything I've read on him is more along the lines of, scrappy hitter, great eye, hard worker, dirt dog mentality, etc. Never really heard, "flys on the bases" or "speed demon".

Matt

ORS
07-22-2005, 09:33 AM
Is Pedroia hurt, or just getting some "pine time"? Nothing in the box scores of the last four PawSox games.

riverside sluggers
07-22-2005, 09:37 AM
well remember he get beamed in the head in the recent past that got him to sit out some games? last week he got hit again but on the wrist now, so theo is having him take a week off or so. i feel bad, its not starting all that well so far for pedroia.

soxie thefangirl
07-22-2005, 09:38 AM
Yeah that does suck for him.

bigpapi349
07-22-2005, 09:48 AM
his wrist still is hurting him

Sox Fan on Cape
07-22-2005, 10:47 AM
I guess that's why Theo couldn't gring him up.

soxie thefangirl
07-22-2005, 10:50 AM
He also said Pedroia needs more time in Triple A. He was struggling of late according to Gary on the pregame show.

CrespoBlows
07-23-2005, 11:47 AM
He also said Pedroia needs more time in Triple A. He was struggling of late according to Gary on the pregame show.

He was struggling, because he got hit on the wrist.

ORS
08-08-2005, 06:08 AM
Dustin has been hot since his return. Here are his stats for the 9 games since he came back.

.367 AVG, .633 SLG, .486 OBP, 2 2B, 2 HR, 5 RBI, 7 BB, 2 K

yankeessuck013
08-17-2005, 10:43 AM
Dustin Pedroia went 4-for-5 with two homers and five RBI in the second game of Triple-A Pawtucket's doubleheader yesterday.

He went 2-for-5 in the first game. Even though he won't need to be added to the 40-man roster in the offseason, Pedroia still might join the Red Sox in September.

-rotoworld

elsrbueno
08-18-2005, 08:04 AM
Dustin Pedroia went 4-for-5 with two homers and five RBI in the second game of Triple-A Pawtucket's doubleheader yesterday.

He went 2-for-5 in the first game. Even though he won't need to be added to the 40-man roster in the offseason, Pedroia still might join the Red Sox in September.

-rotoworld

Dustin's Pawtucket stats are definately impressive considering how quickly he's been moving up the ranks.

.286/.368/.444, 4 HR, 18 RBIs. 13 BBs vs 10 K's, ALWAYS a good sign with young hitters-- patience.

I don't see much of a point rushing him with Graffanino playing so well (all he'd do is ride the pine), but he certainly seems to have earned an invitation to Spring Training next year.

MC Hammer
08-18-2005, 08:48 AM
I agree with els, there is no reason to bring him up this year unless Tony G has an injury. I don't want him to be in the same position as Youk where he gets 1AB a week if he's lucky, and bounces between AAA and MLB. I think it would be much better to let him finish out the year in AAA honing his skills, and maybe bring him up for a cup of coffee next month, but nothing more. Chances are that if he continues to kill the ball like he has been doing in AAA he'll be the starter at 2B next year, so why not just wait.

CrespoBlows
08-18-2005, 02:04 PM
Bring him up now? I'm sure that sounded like a great idea, but so did the S&M which resulted in the broken leg. Tony G. playing very well since he's been with the ballclub, I'd rather see him then Pedoria right now.

There's always next year, so then Pedoria can make his debut.

soxie thefangirl
08-18-2005, 02:20 PM
I would much rather see Graff than Pedroia. Pedroia obviously is not close to being ready at all and Graff is doing wonders at second base.

riverside sluggers
08-18-2005, 02:31 PM
why not for 2006 have Tony G sign a season stay on as the starter 2nd baseman, pedroia can play backup and learn from the veteran that Tony G is

yankeessuck013
08-18-2005, 02:45 PM
yeah thats what I proposed in another thread. I think that would be the best idea.

riverside sluggers
08-18-2005, 02:47 PM
oh sorry didnt realize, yeah it is best thing to do. Youk had a good season backing up Mueller in 2004. I just hope Pedroia wont get what Youk has gotten this season, the yo yo effect

CrespoBlows
08-18-2005, 06:23 PM
I would much rather see Graff than Pedroia. Pedroia obviously is not close to being ready at all and Graff is doing wonders at second base.

I don't think Pedoria is "not close at all", he probably could start now. Tony Graffanino will not be the starter next year. Do you expect Graffanino, a .263 career hitter, to hit .300 again next year?

ORS
08-18-2005, 06:45 PM
why not for 2006 have Tony G sign a season stay on as the starter 2nd baseman, pedroia can play backup and learn from the veteran that Tony G is
If he's not going to start, or a least split time, I'd rather see him playing and staying sharp in AAA than wilting on the pines in the bigs.

elsrbueno
08-19-2005, 08:06 AM
I don't think Pedoria is "not close at all", he probably could start now. Tony Graffanino will not be the starter next year. Do you expect Graffanino, a .263 career hitter, to hit .300 again next year?

Tony G is a good ballplayer having probably a career year. He is best suited for a reserve role because he is capable of playing a bunch of positions and is a DECENT hitter. Like Crespo said though, he's a career .263. This guy's not a perennial All Star.

I believe Dustin Pedroia will be given every opportunity to win the starting second baseman's job out of Spring Training next year. That being said, I wouldn't mind it if the club tried to resign Graffanino as a utility player-- because he's capable of playing so many positions.

soxie thefangirl
08-19-2005, 09:54 AM
I'd rather not see someone just outta the minor leagues in the starting position. But he could be given a try. Graff should definitely be kept around just in case.

riverside sluggers
08-19-2005, 01:00 PM
Gordon Edes said on a live chat on Boston.com that Dustin Pedroia is not a lock to start at 2nd base next season but will be given a chance at spring training to win the role. "Personally, Id like to see the Red Sox keep a veteran such as Graffanino on board as the starter for 2006"

CrespoBlows
08-19-2005, 04:25 PM
Gordon Edes said on a live chat on Boston.com that Dustin Pedroia is not a lock to start at 2nd base next season but will be given a chance at spring training to win the role. "Personally, Id like to see the Red Sox keep a veteran such as Graffanino on board as the starter for 2006"

Yeah, that strategy worked out great for the Yankees.

If you got a good postion prospect knocking on the door, and who you have rights for the next six years, he's got to be called up. Graffanino is good player, but why keep a 34 year old, who is a career utilty infielder, over a 22 year old potential all star?

jsinger121
04-14-2006, 05:07 PM
According to the Boston Globe, general manager Theo Epstein said that Dustin Pedroia will join Triple-A Pawtucket over the weekend.

Teddyballgame10
04-17-2006, 11:57 AM
How is pedoria doing this year so far. You think there will be a chance he will get called up this year? Alex Gonzalaz looks good defensivly but I dont if pedria can get teh job done at the plate iand on defence I dont see why not

jsinger121
04-17-2006, 11:53 PM
Dustin played his first game of the season tonight and went 1-5 with an RBI and a run scored.

Beckett95
05-02-2006, 03:21 PM
mlbtraderumors.com

A source out of Boston had a little nugget about Red Sox second base/shortstop prospect Dustin Pedroia. Pedroia, by the way, is the 11th best prospect in baseball according to Baseball Prospectus.

My source tells me that Pedroia is "falling out of favor with the Sox brass." Apparently the Red Sox think he's gotten way too big and is too slow to play shortstop.

Pedroia has come back from a shoulder strain to play shortstop for Boston's Triple A affiliate. He was moved to second base last year, but the Hanley Ramirez trade resulted in a switch back to short. The 22 year-old is hitting .269/.367/.385 for the Pawtucket Red Sox in 52 ABs.

You have to be worried about Pedroia's lack of power at the Triple A level , dating back to last year. Nonetheless, BP projects Pedroia to hit .290/.362/.450 in the Majors this year. My guess is that Pedroia is showcased in the big leagues within a month's time. He could serve as a major young trading chip for Boston this summer.

if true, does this possibly mean a they could consider moving him to get Dontrell?

Cityofchampions33
05-02-2006, 03:24 PM
i ont think its trye, doesnt seem to be a credible source

jsinger121
05-02-2006, 03:50 PM
He did come into spring training alittle overweight and that might be the reason he strained his shoulder on his swing. He has not been in the best of condition recently and if you want to be taken seriously as a solid prospect and a player that might be penciled in for the 2007 lineup then you need to get in shape and show some dedication towards the game.

Coco's Disciples
05-02-2006, 07:44 PM
this kid is like david eckstein, but a little slower, and with more gap power.

a700hitter
05-03-2006, 08:50 AM
this kid is like david eckstein, but a little slower, and with more gap power.And the benefit of a slower Eckstein is...?

MC Hammer
05-03-2006, 12:32 PM
And the benefit of a slower Eckstein is...?
The fact that he has gap power ...

Also Eckstein runs like his head is on fire, so saying he's a little slower isn't exactly a bad thing.

Coco's Disciples
05-03-2006, 04:47 PM
i can imagine a future (the year after Manny leaves) with the lineup as follows:
C-Tek
1B-Free Agent
2B-Lowrie
SS-Pedroia
3B-Youkilis
LF-Crisp
CF-Moss or Free Agent
RF-Peña
DH-Papi

Rotation: Beckett, Paps, Lester, 2 Free Agents

jsinger121
05-03-2006, 05:48 PM
i can imagine a future (the year after Manny leaves) with the lineup as follows:
C-Tek
1B-Free Agent
2B-Lowrie
SS-Pedroia
3B-Youkilis
LF-Crisp
CF-Moss or Free Agent
RF-Pe?a
DH-Papi

Rotation: Beckett, Paps, Lester, 2 Free Agents

Moss will never be playing center field anytime for the Red Sox as his stock has slipped considerably. Moss is not a centerfielder anyways and Jacoby Ellsbury who is one is alot better than Moss. Moss the way he is playing will likely never make it to the majors. Lowrie is still 2 maybe 3 years away as well.

jsinger121
05-20-2006, 11:23 AM
Pedroia's pathetic line so far

.336/.317/.653

ORS
05-20-2006, 11:44 AM
Pedroia's pathetic line so far

.336/.317/.653
That is not pathetic (nor is it right!). And it's quite bizarre. Higher BA than OBP? Must have lots of sac-flys with no walks.

SchillingIsTheNatural
05-20-2006, 11:46 AM
That is not pathetic (nor is it right!). And it's quite bizarre. Higher BA than OBP? Must have lots of sac-flys with no walks.

haha its OBP/SLUG/OPS

SchillingIsTheNatural
05-20-2006, 11:47 AM
That is not pathetic (nor is it right!). And it's quite bizarre. Higher BA than OBP? Must have lots of sac-flys with no walks.

haha its OBP/SLUG/OPS

I'm not sure its possible to have a higher BA than OBP.

ORS
05-20-2006, 11:50 AM
haha its OBP/SLUG/OPS

I'm not sure its possible to have a higher BA than OBP.
That makes more sense, although who lists the rates like that?

It is possible since SFs count as PAs. So if you have sac-flys with no BB, IBB, or HBP, then your OBP will be higher than your BA.

SchillingIsTheNatural
05-20-2006, 12:09 PM
That makes more sense, although who lists the rates like that?

It is possible since SFs count as PAs. So if you have sac-flys with no BB, IBB, or HBP, then your OBP will be higher than your BA.

That would be interesting to see. His batting average is around .240. However, Pedroia isn't the only one who is playing like crap...that whole team is hitting like garbage.

irishsoxphan
05-20-2006, 09:39 PM
it's very hard for me to fathom the future when Manny and ortiz won't be there. But it will happen someday, and unlike those yankees we actually have a farm system

jsinger121
05-24-2006, 07:13 AM
Pedroia 3-3 with a double and a run scored last night against Louisville. Hopefully his bat will get going.

monty
05-24-2006, 08:24 AM
it's very hard for me to fathom the future when Manny and ortiz won't be there. But it will happen someday, and unlike those yankees we actually have a farm system

Hey... dont say that too loud... you will start the millionth debate on message board about hos the yankees system isnt as bad as people think. Hey, they do got Philip Hughes!

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
06-07-2006, 05:36 PM
I can't wait for Pedroia to come up. For some reason, I think he could hit much better then Gonzalez. His defense is supposed to be good, so it's not like we would be putting a Wily Mo/Manny defensive player at SS. If they did call him up, it would bring nothing but good things.

P.S. I still can't see the Yankees system as good. They have Hughes, who is supposed to be very good, but then they don't have much. Duncan isn't that good and the only other guy I can think of is CJ Henry, an outfielder who is either in A or AA.

Teddyballgame10
06-07-2006, 07:00 PM
what is his stats so far this year?

Teddyballgame10
06-07-2006, 07:00 PM
what is his stats so far this year?

example1
06-07-2006, 07:07 PM
what is his stats so far this year?

They're pretty bad so far, actually

In 44 G and 164 AB he has a .268 AVG, .360 OBP, .378 SLG, with 1 HR, 11 2B, 0 SB and 13 RBI.

The one thing that is obviously impressive there is the .360 OBP. He's still getting on base almost 1/10 times via a walk, which is reassuring (.360-.268 = almost .100). He hasn't lost his plate control obviously. He just needs to get more hits.

I would be interested to see what his BABIP is, to see whether he is just having bad luck or something.

jsinger121
06-07-2006, 07:32 PM
They're pretty bad so far, actually

In 44 G and 164 AB he has a .268 AVG, .360 OBP, .378 SLG, with 1 HR, 11 2B, 0 SB and 13 RBI.

The one thing that is obviously impressive there is the .360 OBP. He's still getting on base almost 1/10 times via a walk, which is reassuring (.360-.268 = almost .100). He hasn't lost his plate control obviously. He just needs to get more hits.

I would be interested to see what his BABIP is, to see whether he is just having bad luck or something.

His BABIP is .279

example1
06-07-2006, 07:58 PM
His BABIP is .279

Isn't that a little low?

jsinger121
06-07-2006, 08:00 PM
Isn't that a little low?

yes but that was in due part to his real slow start

ORS
06-08-2006, 11:51 AM
They're pretty bad so far, actually

In 44 G and 164 AB he has a .268 AVG, .360 OBP, .378 SLG, with 1 HR, 11 2B, 0 SB and 13 RBI.

The one thing that is obviously impressive there is the .360 OBP. He's still getting on base almost 1/10 times via a walk, which is reassuring (.360-.268 = almost .100). He hasn't lost his plate control obviously. He just needs to get more hits.

I would be interested to see what his BABIP is, to see whether he is just having bad luck or something.
BABIP for hitters is real easy to calculate:

(H - HR) / (AB - HR - SO + SF)

example1
06-08-2006, 04:24 PM
BABIP for hitters is real easy to calculate:

(H - HR) / (AB - HR - SO + SF)

So, from what I can see here, HR don't count in BABIP? the "In Play" actually means "In the park and playable" or something along those lines? Interesting.

Thanks for the info ORS.

ORS
06-08-2006, 06:07 PM
So, from what I can see here, HR don't count in BABIP? the "In Play" actually means "In the park and playable" or something along those lines? Interesting.

Thanks for the info ORS.
Yeah, the ball has to be "playable" to count toward BABIP. I think CBA (Contact Batting Average), which is BABIP with the homers included, is a good measure of how hard someone is hitting the ball.

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
06-08-2006, 08:57 PM
a good sign though is that he is still walking more then he K's (23 BB, 17 K's) so at least he's getting wood on the ball

Beckett95
06-08-2006, 09:34 PM
what position is he playing most in Pawtucket? SS or 2B?

Strotorious
06-20-2006, 05:49 PM
I had a chance to see him play this weekend when the came to visit the R-Braves and he was very impressive. 3-4 plus a walk. On all three hits he absolutely stung the ball and his one out moved a runner from second to third. He's really turned it up the past month or so, raising his average about 20 points. He's now up to .282/.363/.398.

He's been mainly playing SS, but I still see him as a 2B. On a ball hit up the middle he showed great range and agility making the catch, spinning, and throwing from shallow center, but the throw had nothing on it and the runner beat it. I know everyone keeps dogging him on his arm strength but having seen it myself I have concerns about his ability to make plays from deep in the hole.

Beckett95
06-20-2006, 05:59 PM
no doubt he'll be one of our starting middle infielders next year, as long as he doesnt get traded

CrespoBlows
06-20-2006, 06:00 PM
3-5 today with a double.

He's currently hitting .290 with an OPS at .775.

Beckett95
06-20-2006, 06:01 PM
the thing that impresses me the most is his BB/K ratio. He hardly never strikes out and has great plate dicipline. Definetely a #2 hitter down the line

jsinger121
06-20-2006, 06:03 PM
with loretta up there in age and headed for free agency having pedroia here and not trading him would be the smart move.

Anuj09
06-21-2006, 08:42 AM
think he'll get the call in September ?

jsinger121
06-21-2006, 10:00 AM
think he'll get the call in September ?

probably not so they won't have to use a 40 man roster spot before they have to on him.

NateGrey
06-21-2006, 10:16 AM
I say '07' ...

riverside sluggers
06-22-2006, 04:53 AM
Pedroia had a 3 for 5 performance last night with a Double & 2 RBIs. He has now upped his avg to .290

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
06-23-2006, 06:03 PM
From Peter Gammons' blog at ESPN.com:"Middle infielder Dustin Pedroia is doing so well at Pawtucket that the Red Sox figure he'll play a role in the final months similar to the contributions of Graffanino last season."

riverside sluggers
06-23-2006, 06:05 PM
Pedroia, Machado just two good for PawSox
By Rich Thompson/ The Minors
Friday, June 23, 2006 - Updated: 07:47 AM EST

Pawtucket Red Sox manager Ron Johnson is getting twice as much out of his double play combination these days. When you have a pair of dynamic young infielders like Dustin Pedroia and Alejandro Machado covering ground and turning double plays from both sides of second base, it makes sense for Johnson to get the most out of them. Pedroia plays two games at shortstop and moves to second every third night. Machado, the regular second baseman, takes over at short the third game, giving both players experience at either side of the bag.

The parent Red Sox have tremendous glove men up in the middle in shortstop Alex Gonzalez, second baseman Mark Loretta and utility infielder Alex Cora. Johnson’s responsibility is to have Pedroia and Machado ready to play either position for Terry Francona. Johnson wants all his players “Tito ready” at any moment. “You want them to be flexible and you want them exposed to both,” said Johnson prior to last night’s series opener against Columbus at McCoy Stadium.

“We try to balance it out as much as possible because your focus down here is to create flexibility for Tito if these guys get to the big leagues. You can’t lock a guy into one spot and these guys are so athletic around the bag it really doesn’t matter. I think it’s good because they have a geographical comfort zone on both sides of the infield. They have complemented each other well on both sides of the field.”

And both have been hot with the bat lately. Operating from the second spot in the order, Pedroia has hit safely in five straight games, batting .458 (11-for-24) with two doubles, a home run, five RBI, three runs and three walks. In the process, he has lifted his average from .269 to .290. Machado took a 13-game hitting streak into the opener with Columbus in which he batted .372 (16-for-43) with seven RBI and four runs to boost his average to .254.

Coco's Disciples
06-23-2006, 08:55 PM
From Peter Gammons' blog at ESPN.com:"Middle infielder Dustin Pedroia is doing so well at Pawtucket that the Red Sox figure he'll play a role in the final months similar to the contributions of Graffanino last season."

Nice. I like the mixture of veterans and youth on this team. Papelbon, Lester, Hansen, Delcarmen, Pauley earlier, and soon Pedroia.

jsinger121
06-24-2006, 01:52 AM
Honestly there is no rush to even bring him up this year and waste an option year when they don't have to. He doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster until after the season so there is no reason to waste 2006 as one of his option years.

ORS
06-24-2006, 05:43 AM
I don't see Dustin's option years as being a big deal. If they bring him up this year, you are talking about them losing the ability to send him down in 2010. I really don't see that being an issue.

jsinger121
07-09-2006, 12:54 AM
Pedroia has a 3/5 night last night raising his BA for the year to .299....He is getting hot and showing the player he was before getting injured earlier this year.

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
07-09-2006, 11:37 AM
I see what you mean jsinger with all the option stuff. I think that if someone were to get injured, we should bring him up, but if no one does we don't need him. Cora is hitting over .300 in almost 100 at-bats. That's great for an infield reserve. He should get as much playing time as he can so he'll be ready next year.

riverside sluggers
07-15-2006, 09:29 PM
Pedroia is just rolling. From tonights game-- 4 for 4, 2 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 2 Runs scored, Walk. He has now lifted his average to .306

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2006_07_15_chraaa_pawaaa_1&t=g_box&did=milb

jsinger121
07-15-2006, 10:13 PM
Pedroia is just rolling. From tonights game-- 4 for 4, 2 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 2 Runs scored, Walk. He has now lifted his average to .306

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2006_07_15_chraaa_pawaaa_1&t=g_box&did=milb

Great numbers from the 2007 starting secondbaseman. I can't wait til the Pedroia era begins. I have been following this guy since he was drafted and have been anticipating the day he arrives in Boston.

riverside sluggers
07-17-2006, 04:18 AM
this guy is a keeper

pawsox.com

(Pawtucket, RI) - The best team in the International League limped away from McCoy Stadium after the PawSox thumped Charlotte 10-6, on Sunday afternoon. The Sox (45-47) are just 5 games out of the wild card lead after beating the Knights three times in four days. Dustin Pedroia (3-5, 2 rbi) and Jeff Bailey (3-5, 1 rbi) led the 15 hit attack. Corky Miller and Wily Mo Pena homered, Miller and Alejandro Machado had 2 RBI each. Pena and Trent Durrington scored three runs apiece. Defensively, the Sox were outstanding. Pedroia (shortstop) and Luke Allen (leftfield) gunned down runners at the plate. Pedroia had his string of 7 hits in 7 consecutive at bats snapped in the sixth. Tim Bausher (3-1) earned the win and Brad Baker picked up his third save. Abe Alvarez gave up 6 runs in 5 innings and didn't figure in the decision.

... other news Alvarez continues to dwindle. IMO any trade the Sox make they should just throw him in as a freebie

SchillingIsTheNatural
07-23-2006, 09:23 PM
Pedroia goes 1 for 2 with a 3-run homer on 7/23

.....continues to play very well. I'm excited to see what he can do with a September call-up

jsinger121
07-23-2006, 09:26 PM
There's a chance he might not get one because he is not on the 40 man roster and there could be a roster crunch.

SchillingIsTheNatural
07-23-2006, 09:30 PM
There's a chance he might not get one because he is not on the 40 man roster and there could be a roster crunch.

Wouldn't they be able to exchange him with someone like Jason Johnson?? I'm not positive how the 40 man works

jsinger121
07-23-2006, 09:31 PM
Wouldn't they be able to exchange him with someone like Jason Johnson?? I'm not positive how the 40 man works

they easily can but it has to do with the option year shit and I don't know if they want to put him on to waste an option year I believe.

riverside sluggers
07-23-2006, 10:04 PM
There's a chance he might not get one because he is not on the 40 man roster and there could be a roster crunch.

hey jsinger, with september right around the corner (damn 162 games do go by fast) any guesses on who will be called up?... David Murphy, Edgar Martinez, and so on

jsinger121
07-23-2006, 10:21 PM
Murphy is a sure bet to be called up. Usually the sox will bring a 3rd catcher for september and that probably will be huckaby. enrique wilson likely could be a call up to bring some depth. Adam stern will be called up as well. Since Huckaby and Wilson aren't on the 40 man 2 roster moves will be made and that could prevent Pedroia from getting a callup. I don't see Big Edgar getting called up in september as he definitely needs more seasoning in the minors.

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
07-23-2006, 10:50 PM
hee seop will probably get called up

Anuj09
07-24-2006, 10:51 AM
can Pedroia play some quality D ?

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
07-24-2006, 10:59 AM
yeah. I think last year AAA managers rated him the best defensive 2B.

Anuj09
07-24-2006, 11:46 AM
nice hopefully Theo will stick to theme of pitching and defense for a long time

TheKilo
07-24-2006, 06:43 PM
hee seop will probably get called up


Yea, nothing like a .210 BA in AAA.

SchillingIsTheNatural
07-24-2006, 07:00 PM
Yea, nothing like a .210 BA in AAA.

As I have said before....I think he would be rejuvenated if brought back up the major league level.

jsinger121
07-24-2006, 11:11 PM
Pedroia 2/4 r 2bb tonight against Columbus

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
07-24-2006, 11:33 PM
it is getting awfully tempting to bring pedroia up... i dont know how Theo can resist when he's posting these kind of numbers

TheKilo
07-24-2006, 11:36 PM
it is getting awfully tempting to bring pedroia up... i dont know how Theo can resist when he's posting these kind of numbers


It'd be a waste of an option year.


(Is there an echo in this thread? This is the answer every time.)

riverside sluggers
07-24-2006, 11:39 PM
it is getting awfully tempting to bring pedroia up... i dont know how Theo can resist when he's posting these kind of numbers

Gonzo, Loretta, and Cora are holding down the fort rather solidly. Let the kid grow in Triple A for remainder of 2006, it cant hurt him any

a700hitter
07-25-2006, 08:34 AM
it is getting awfully tempting to bring pedroia up... i dont know how Theo can resist when he's posting these kind of numbersHow would they use him? Who would sit for him to play? I think that it is more likely that he is trade bait if they can get a team to part with a top starter.

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
08-18-2006, 10:48 PM
pedroia hit a grand slam tonight. it was his 5th HR i believe

ksushi
08-18-2006, 10:59 PM
How would they use him? Who would sit for him to play? I think that it is more likely that he is trade bait if they can get a team to part with a top starter.

Not true, as much as you would like to see the Red Sox purge the team of everyone under the age of 46, Pedroia will play second base next year barring some ridiclulous scenario where Loretta gets his option and the Sox manage to trade Pedroia for... I dont know Peavy. Not gonna happen. 700's dream team isnt gonna happen this side of the senior citizen home. Not this year.

a700hitter
08-19-2006, 12:57 AM
Not true, as much as you would like to see the Red Sox purge the team of everyone under the age of 46, Pedroia will play second base next year barring some ridiclulous scenario where Loretta gets his option and the Sox manage to trade Pedroia for... I dont know Peavy. Not gonna happen. 700's dream team isnt gonna happen this side of the senior citizen home. Not this year.And with the FO doing things your way, we ain't gonna make the playoffs either. They've turned this team into a $120 million joke.

Anuj09
08-19-2006, 11:23 AM
if we fall deep out of contention we should send Lester i feel like hes not ready despite a few of his starts

ksushi
08-19-2006, 11:35 AM
Lester screams AAA. I think though that if he stays in the majors, it might be until spring that we seem him turn into that 7-8inning 1 hit kind of pitcher he was against the royals.

ORS
08-19-2006, 11:50 AM
if we fall deep out of contention we should send Lester i feel like hes not ready despite a few of his starts
That makes no sense.

If they are deep out of contention, then the outcome of the games doesn't really matter, and his progression into an effective MLB pitcher, if it happens, will come all that much faster if he's learning at the highest level. The only way it makes sense to send him down to AAA is if they are still contending and have someone capable of replacing him.

Pesky
08-19-2006, 12:54 PM
I think Lester is way over his head in the majors. He was rushed up way too soon, and it is affecting him. I think some more time in AAA would help. This could hinder his career big time.

He needs to get some control back, and some confidence. Going down to AAA would help a lot. But it doesn't really matter now. The damage is done. So I guess he might as well stay up.

ORS
08-19-2006, 01:01 PM
I think Lester is way over his head in the majors. He was rushed up way too soon, and it is affecting him. I think some more time in AAA would help. This could hinder his career big time.

He needs to get some control back, and some confidence. Going down to AAA would help a lot. But it doesn't really matter now. The damage is done. So I guess he might as well stay up.
I agree with that. The unfortunate part is that injuries rushed him coming up. Ideally he would never have left the Buckett this year. But, now that he's up and pitched in 10+ games, there's no need to send him down unless someone better can replace him, which doesn't seem to be the case.

ksushi
08-19-2006, 02:20 PM
I dont think this is going to hinder his career at all. I don't think he was rushed up way too soon, I think they brought him up about a month or two too soon. They clearly had plans to bring him up this season. It was not way too soon. I think that Lester next year will be more polished than Lester this year, AAA or no AAA he is learning. He is going to put it together. It isn't like he is getting deep into counts and then throwing meat pitches. He gets deep into counts and still throws HIS pitches. Thats frustrating when they are taken for balls, but it will be nice when he learns how to get those first pitches over the plate and force guys to swing at those. Its all going to come together.

a700hitter
08-19-2006, 09:53 PM
it will be nice when he learns how to get those first pitches over the plate and force guys to swing at those. Its all going to come together.They need to teach this to Beckett first before they get around to Lester.

example1
08-19-2006, 10:29 PM
Couldn't this conversation be placed in a "Jon Lester" thread?

ksushi
08-19-2006, 10:36 PM
They need to teach this to Beckett first before they get around to Lester.

First thing weve agreed on ever. Watching Beckett pitch is making me an unstable person. Its so frustrating. 9 walks today? Another blow out loss for him? Jesus.
Huge dissappointment. This season at least.

a700hitter
08-19-2006, 10:42 PM
First thing weve agreed on this week. Watching Beckett pitch is making me a more unstable person. Its so frustrating. 9 walks today? Another blow out loss for him? Jesus.
Huge dissappointment. This season at least.I made the appropriate edits.;)

Teddyballgame10
08-19-2006, 11:01 PM
Can Pedoria play short? I really like Loretta hes such a solid player. I lvoe him in the two spot.

example1
08-20-2006, 12:21 AM
Pedroia and Loretta should not co-exist on the same team. Move Loretta and let Pedroia establish himself.

I like Beckett, I really do. i want him to be a sox pitcher for a long, long time. He just needs to develop as a team's #3. For his salary on THIS team that's about what he should be.

schillingouttheks
08-20-2006, 12:22 AM
Re-sign Loretta, and if Pedroia wins the starting job at 2B for '07, then there will be a buyer for Loretta.

jsinger121
08-20-2006, 08:44 AM
Re-sign Loretta, and if Pedroia wins the starting job at 2B for '07, then there will be a buyer for Loretta.

No need to resign Loretta when Pedroia is easily ready to step in and the sox have multiple other needs they can spend the money on.

jsinger121
08-21-2006, 07:00 PM
Dustin Pedroia (who was playing DH) has been removed from the game. It is quite possible that he's heading for Boston. A-Gon had a setback today.

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
08-21-2006, 07:22 PM
Dustin Pedroia (who was playing DH) has been removed from the game. It is quite possible that he's heading for Boston. A-Gon had a setback today.

YES!

example1
08-21-2006, 08:24 PM
YES!

Time to provide some life to this group of lifeless ballplayers. C'mon Pedroia!

DUSTINMOHR4LIFE
08-22-2006, 06:52 PM
Pedroia should be up for the game tonight

Mr Crunchy
08-31-2006, 11:40 AM
anyone seen pedroia yet
is he still in pawtucket cause his bat is?

ksushi
08-31-2006, 12:15 PM
What? He's been up in the majors now for alittle more than a week

rician blast
08-31-2006, 12:54 PM
anyone seen pedroia yet
is he still in pawtucket cause his bat is?

i have a friend who works for UPS and they are having a lot of internal problems that have manifested themselves into lost shipments so I am guessing Perdoia's bats were shipped using "BROWN" and they'll be arriving, oh, sometime in early '07.

riverside sluggers
08-31-2006, 01:32 PM
What? He's been up in the majors now for alittle more than a week

Didnt you hear? If a rookie in his first couple of weeks doesnt produce the way he can, he is crap :rolleyes:

Impatient fans much?

Mr Crunchy
08-31-2006, 02:34 PM
impatient??
no
i was impatient in july as the season started to tank
now
im certifiably fucking enraged
however
it has little to do with duddy pedroia and more to do with the black cloud hanging over this franchise since theo cashed it in back at the end of july..
ive never ever seen a scenario like this in all my life of watching prosports

closest i can recall??
the preseason game against greenbay when ronnie lippett garon veras and andre tippett were all lost for the season...if im not mistaken in the 1st half??

anyways
mr pedroia,who was deemed ready to step in and replace our allstar 2nd basemen,is slugging .138 which is his batting average....

no
i dont want to waive him and no,i dont think hes a stiff
i think hes a promising prospect with little power who plays 2nd base
ever hear of wilton veras??
juan bustabar??
whistlin jackie guttierez?
how about danny cater........you need to be over 40 to answer this
donny sadler??

riverside sluggers
08-31-2006, 02:46 PM
anyways
mr pedroia,who was deemed ready to step in and replace our allstar 2nd basemen,is slugging .138 which is his batting average....


29 ABs, apparently thats enough to start complaining about a rookie's performance in his debut to the majors.

Mr Crunchy
08-31-2006, 03:01 PM
with 6 men lob yesterday and the team getting spanked like boy george in greenich village shall i deem his performace solid and compliment him on his line drives??

shall i say with all the hype and his no trade claus
that hes been a pleasant surprise??

hes a member of this team now,right??
this is still major league baseball despite what we put out on the field these days
hes open to scrutiny is he not?

i hope he steals 40bases and hits .325 with some power and a golden glove next year but the reality of this is he isnt going to be good enuff to replace lorettas bat this or next season

hes a prospect debuting in the big leagues
i wish him all the success in the world
hes not the christ despite what you read and the ballwashing that occurs here

riverside sluggers
08-31-2006, 03:08 PM
I hardly see the Sox presenting a 2/3 year deal to Loretta this offseason.

Pedroia is known to have slow starts to the season/when he gets a promotion. Too early to say he needs more time in the minors

Mr Crunchy
08-31-2006, 03:12 PM
agreed
let him play thru september and lets hope for our and his sake that he starts finding some holes
roy halliday isnt the ideal guy to break out against however and that goes for manny ortiz or anyone..

he hasnt had any help in the lineup either with the team resembling a MASH unit

ARod2212
09-01-2006, 02:09 PM
29 ABs, apparently thats enough to start complaining about a rookie's performance in his debut to the majors. After his first 23 ABs in the MLB, Robinson Cano's batting average was .087. This year it sits at a comfy .332, so relax.

riverside sluggers
09-18-2006, 09:45 AM
After his first 23 ABs in the MLB, Robinson Cano's batting average was .087. This year it sits at a comfy .332, so relax.

maybe you mis-read my post, but Ive been trying to get some on this site/outside that patience is needed with rookies. Im not the one that needs relaxing after seeing his stats as major leaguer in 1 month.

Some food for thought here guys...

Since Dusty's 1st career HR (I went to that game and enjoyed seeing that ball soar in to the monster seats:thumbsup: )

5 for 17 (.294 avg) 2 Doubles, HR, 2 RBIs, 3 Runs, 3 Walks, 2 Ks

He has carried over a trait he had in the minors of seeing a good # of pitchers per plate appearance, and also has only struck out 9 times in 57 ABs

a700hitter
09-18-2006, 11:28 PM
maybe you mis-read my post, but Ive been trying to get some on this site/outside that patience is needed with rookies. Im not the one that needs relaxing after seeing his stats as major leaguer in 1 month.

Some food for thought here guys...

Since Dusty's 1st career HR (I went to that game and enjoyed seeing that ball soar in to the monster seats:thumbsup: )

5 for 17 (.294 avg) 2 Doubles, HR, 2 RBIs, 3 Runs, 3 Walks, 2 Ks

He has carried over a trait he had in the minors of seeing a good # of pitchers per plate appearance, and also has only struck out 9 times in 57 ABsCano has classic hitters stroke. He has good size too so he's got some power. Pedroia is very small and his swing is big and wild. He makes contact, but he should be slapping the ball or hitting down on it. He's too small to be taking such a big swing. He needs to think like a #2 hitter and go to RF with the ball. He's got a lot of work to do on his stroke if he wants to be consistent at this level.

riverside sluggers
09-19-2006, 01:12 AM
How long have you been watching him? Im guessing a month, which is not a good sample size on his stroke

Ive been watching him since he was in Double A Portland. He is so far showing what happens each time he gets promotion

--at first he is cold
--he then starts to get going in a good streak, mostly as we see trying to get the big flies going (please all rookies are trying to hit HRs with every swing they pit down)
--doesnt take long till he progresses into the hitter that shot up through the system

Oh well, no use trying to argue anymore, cant seem to get though to the actual fact that a month in the majors doesnt classify how a player will be in his career.

Anuj09
09-19-2006, 05:01 PM
One thing i have been pretty impressed by with Pedroia is his nerve in clutch situations. He had some huge hits along with Murphy in of all places Yankee Stadium As i put it before they are clutch yankee killahs


on Murphy: anyway we could convert him to be a 3rd basemen ? I know hes known for his D but I think this guys gonna be a star if he is given the chance to start i hope hes not traded

jsinger121
09-19-2006, 05:50 PM
Thirdbaseman for Murphy. Not. He is lefthanded.

Anuj09
09-19-2006, 07:05 PM
ahhh thank you.

Do you atleast see him staying JSinger ?

a700hitter
09-19-2006, 07:41 PM
How long have you been watching him? Im guessing a month, which is not a good sample size on his stroke

Ive been watching him since he was in Double A Portland. He is so far showing what happens each time he gets promotion

--at first he is cold
--he then starts to get going in a good streak, mostly as we see trying to get the big flies going (please all rookies are trying to hit HRs with every swing they pit down)
--doesnt take long till he progresses into the hitter that shot up through the system

Oh well, no use trying to argue anymore, cant seem to get though to the actual fact that a month in the majors doesnt classify how a player will be in his career.Maybe he'll hit, but when a hitter like Rice talks about how his stroke is too big I take that seriously. I think it will be very hard to be consistent with such a big stroke. Consistency is the hallmark of the major leaguer.

jsinger121
09-19-2006, 09:08 PM
ahhh thank you.

Do you atleast see him staying JSinger ?

If he stays its in a backup role.

example1
09-20-2006, 12:04 AM
Maybe he'll hit, but when a hitter like Rice talks about how his stroke is too big I take that seriously. I think it will be very hard to be consistent with such a big stroke. Consistency is the hallmark of the major leaguer.


Pedroia consistently gets on base. He consistently has good at bats. He isn't a top prospect because he's a small weak-hitting second baseman. He's a top prospect because he's scrappy as hell, gets on base like Youkilis and still takes massive cuts at the dish. I have seen him hit the ball very hard on a consistent basis, I feel he's just gotten unlucky so far.

Don't criticize a kid for coming out ripping. He's loads better than Kapler who looks like Hulk but swings like grandpa. Seriously guys, I think those big hacks will get him some HRs at Fenway and he'll figure out when to try to put the ball in play with 2 strikes vs. when to let it rip. He's definitely got some pop in his bat.

Mr Crunchy
09-20-2006, 09:04 AM
roberto pettagine hit 35hrs in pawtucket last season
he was a big man,7 inches and 70lbs bigger than pedroia
he also had a long big swing

anyone know where he is now??

jsinger121
09-20-2006, 09:39 AM
roberto pettagine hit 35hrs in pawtucket last season
he was a big man,7 inches and 70lbs bigger than pedroia
he also had a long big swing

anyone know where he is now??

Petagine was also 35 years old and not a prospect. huge difference. Pedroia is 22 and is a prospect. Know what you are talking about before you comment here.

Mr Crunchy
09-20-2006, 09:51 AM
i asked a question sonny
i wasnt making a statement

rician blast
09-20-2006, 02:00 PM
Maybe he'll hit, but when a hitter like Rice talks about how his stroke is too big I take that seriously. I think it will be very hard to be consistent with such a big stroke. Consistency is the hallmark of the major leaguer.


Agree with the short-stroke issue. Rice had one of the quickest, shortest swings I've ever seen. Pedroia has more the OC type of swing...from the heels...and if that's what it takes for him to develop power then he is likely going to sacrifice some average.

Is Pedroia up to .230 yet? On base % I mean.

just kidding Justine fans.

Mr Crunchy
09-20-2006, 02:04 PM
hes got as many errors as rbi but its only been 58abs or 10% of a season

i saw the shot he hit against kc live
it was a rocket for sure and almost cleared the monster seats
in fact
i think he had 3? hits that game

ive got him penciled in for cooperstown in 2024 with 385 hrs 1600rbi and a .302 avg with 12 gold gloves and 10 straight years of starting the all star game