The Yankee GAME thread

[yeszir]

Leave the other thread for yankee discussion, use this one as a game thread.

[RedRuffing15]

Todays was bad:thumbdown

[yeszir]

Todays was bad:thumbdown
Or good, depending on how you look at it. :dunno:

[RedRuffing15]

I'm trying not too




So anyways, if Moose wins tomarrow, he'll become the first ever AL SP to have 10+ wins in 15 consecutive seasons. I wonder what the overall record is?

He also passed C. Mathewson last game for 27th all time in SO.

[riverside sluggers]

for you yankee fans, heres todays pitcher vs batter matchups
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Paul Byrd (6 games vs New York, 1-2 record with a 2.72 ERA---Career at Jacobs Field in 11 games, 6-1 record with a 3.62 ERA)
Melky Cabrera, 1 for 3 (.333 avg) Walk
Miguel Cairo, 1 for 4 (.250 avg) HR, RBI
Johnny Damon, 2 for 16 (.125 avg) Walk
Jason Giambi, 3 for 11 (.273 avg) HR, RBI, 2 Walks, 2 Ks
Nick Green, 0 for 1, Walk
Derek Jeter, 8 for 22 (.364 avg) 3 Doubles, Triple, 3 RBIs, Walk, 6 Ks, SB
Andy Phillips, 0 for 3, 2 Ks
Jorge Posada, 1 for 15 (.067 avg) Double, 2 Walks, 2 Ks
Alex Rodriguez, 2 for 10 (.200 avg) RBI, Walk, 5 Ks
Kelly Stinnett, 0 for 6, Walk, 2 Ks
Bernie Williams, 7 for 18 (.389 avg) 2 Doubles, 2 HRs, 2 RBIs, 2 Walks, 2 Ks


Mike Mussina (23 games vs Cleveland, 9-9 record with a 4.91 ERA---Career at Jacobs Field in 8 games, 2-3 record with a 6.57 ERA
Ronnie Belliard, 6 for 10 (.600 avg) Double, 2 RBIs, Walk, SB
Aaron Boone, 6 for 12 (.500 avg) Double, HR, 3 RBIs, 2 Ks, SB
Ben Broussard, 4 for 17 (.235 avg) HR, 2 RBIs, 2 Walks, 6 Ks
Travis Hafner, 1 for 8 (.125 avg) RBI, 4 Walks, K
Todd Hollandsworth, 3 for 11 (.273 avg) Double, HR, 4 RBIs, Walk, 2 Ks
Victor Martinez, 1 for 14 (.071 avg) RBI, Walk, 3 Ks
Jason Michaels, 0 for 3, K
Jhonny Peralta, 6 for 11 (.545 avg) Double, HR, 4 RBIs, Walk, K
Kelly Shoppach, 0 for 2, K
Grady Sizemore, 1 for 9 (.111 avg) RBI, Walk, 4 Ks
Ramon Vazquez, 0 for 1, 2 Walks

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Yankees lead 1-0 on a Melky RBI hit.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Victor Martinez can hit but he couldnt throw out my dead grandfather.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Damon has been replaced by Bubba Crosby. Cashman please get another OF.

[CrespoBlows]

Any word on why?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

As soon as I hear something I'll post it.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Why does Todd Hollandsworth hit us so well?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Strained or sore oblique per Kay. This season just keeps getting better and better. Now we have to watch the great Bubba Crosby roam CF for us. The AS break cant come any sooner.

[schillingouttheks]

Melky grand slam...

5-1 Skanks.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Thank God Melky! 5-1 on the grand slam. Keep up the good work Boone.

[ORS]

Hehe, I hope it adds to the myth of Melky and buys some more time for him on the roster. -2.6 VORP going into tonight.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Hehe, I hope it adds to the myth of Melky and buys some more time for him on the roster. -2.6 VORP going into tonight.
They dont really have a choice ESP with Damon down now.

[CrespoBlows]

Thank God Melky! 5-1 on the grand slam. Keep up the good work Boone.

Boone with his second error.

Why is Marte still in AAA?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

6-1 now. Moose has a 5 run lead to work with.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Boone with his second error.

Why is Marte still in AAA?
Its quite amazing how teams are loyal to bad players or just not productive players. It took the Angels a month to decide to dump Jeff Weaver for Jared. The Indians are clearly going nowhere why not give Marte a try?

EDIT:The same hold for Adam Kennedy. The Angels should trade Kennedy and give Howie Kendrick the job.

[Teddyballgame10]

I just saw the ticker on ESPN what happened to Damon?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Victor Martinez is just getting embarrassed. 9-1 Yankees about damn time.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I just saw the ticker on ESPN what happened to Damon?
Strained or sore oblique according to Kay. They will know more later. Hopefully its just sore.

[ORS]

A double steal with a 6-run lead? I hope Bowa wore his Depends because he's probably soiling himself at the thought of running with a big lead.

[a700hitter]

Mo's pitching with an 11-3 lead. Ya gotta love that.

[ORS]

http://tampabay.devilrays.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/mlb/150242.jpg VS http://tampabay.devilrays.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/mlb/124605.jpg

Seo works a clean 1st. Wright spit the bit last time out. If his 15-minutes are indeed up, the D-Rays ought to feast off him.

[Optimist]

Wright gets out of a men on second and third with no outs situation without giving up a run.

[ORS]

Wright's magic fairy dust appears to have a little life left to it. Single, double to start, then a hot-shot liner caught in the IF, foul-pop, and a K. I can't believe the Rays let this chucker off the hook without a run.

[Coco's Disciples]

The Rays can't score runs against the Yankees, but they can take 3/4 against us...

[RedRuffing15]

1-0 right now

Bernies been doing good of late

[ORS]

Another leadoff double stranded. Gomes f'd that one up by going down looking with the runner on 3rd with one out. You have to be more protective of the plate in that situation.

[Optimist]

Good game.

[Optimist]

We need a win today (easier said than done against Kazmir.) I don't know what we're going to get out of Wilson tomorrow, so I'd feel alot more comfortable with the series already won.

[Coco's Disciples]

Who's Wilson?

[Optimist]

Who's Wilson?

Kris Wilson...a pitcher called up from Columbus to take Chacon's spot in the starting rotation.

[Optimist]

Jorge throws out Crawford!

[ORS]

Jorge throws out Crawford!
??????

Gameday says Crawford grounds into a force out. Lugo out at 2nd, Crawford out at 1st. What happened?

[Optimist]

??????

Gameday says Crawford grounds into a force out. Lugo out at 2nd, Crawford out at 1st. What happened?

Crawford grounded into a fielder's choice. He hit a bouncer towards second, Lugo slowed down for some reason and was tagged out at 2nd. Crawford was safe at first. On the next pitch (to Rocco) Crawford attempted to steal 2nd and was caught.

[Optimist]

Jeter...that wasn't Crawford running.

Edit: Shoe string catch from Thompson makes sure it doens't hurt the team.

[ORS]

Cantu likes the ball down. I smell a tater.

EDIT: Nope, he chases for the K.

[Optimist]

Another good catch by Melky.

[ORS]

Good, more reasons for managment to think he should be kept on the team. -0.3 VORP going into tonight.

[ORS]

Rays are kicking the ball around the field for Kazmir. He needs to pitch out of a leadoff 2-base error.

[ORS]

1-down. Slappy. Swinging.

[Optimist]

Jorge comes through.

1 - 0 Yankees

[ORS]

Similar to last night, the only run scored is on dome bounce chopper up the middle.

Posada steals a base. Nice of the Rays to revert to Little League form right after we left town.

[buddylove]

triple by Crawford

[ORS]

He is crazy, insane fast.

Bad move to send him. Does Baldelli have some outstanding gambling debt? He's been playing this series like the health of his knee caps are in jeopardy.

[Optimist]

Johnny comes into run for Giambi, ends up getting a two RBI triple a few innings later.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Nice to see the Devil Rays laying down for the Yankees.

[Optimist]

Nice to see the Devil Rays laying down for the Yankees.

Perhaps they want to do to you guys this year, what they did to us last year.

[Optimist]

Now, Torre should not even have a second thought about allowing Wang finish this one off.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Perhaps they want to do to you guys this year, what they did to us last year.

Kinda what I was thinking...which makes me nervous about Kansas City...but I think they are having fun with Toronto and using up all there good games.

[ORS]

That's just it. Last year was the anomally. This year has been the norm. They've traditionally played the Sox tough and - poof - turned into the AA team they really are against the Yankees. Although, I will say that this year's DRay team isn't as bad as they have played the last two nights.

They've had a pretty unfortunate night. Wang's done his usualy GB routine, but I haven't seen a Yankee IF have to make more than two steps to either side to field a ball. Everything has been right at someone, and several of them were scorched. On the other hand, just about every weak chop from the Yankees has found a hole since Kazmir left the game. But, hey, that's baseball.

[Optimist]

Another good game. A complete game shut out from Wang would have been better, but I'll take the win.

[Coco's Disciples]

Who do you guys play next?

[KeepTheFaith1229]

Who do you guys play next?

the national league

[Coco's Disciples]

Oh yeah, damn All-Star break. That's why I couldn't think of it. Nice I got tickets to the first game back vs. Oakland.

[26 to 6]

Just wanted to share somethign I was thinking tonight. Melky Cabrera takes a lot of shit from people, Boston fans and Yankee haters alike...even some Yankee fans, for his defense based on the mishap up in Boston last year. He earned the reputation as a bad outfielder for himself because of that, and also because of the error in right in his first game up this year (which I still say was the wind. I had a great angle of it sitting right down the right field line. But nevertheless). Melky is not a bad outfielder. He is a pretty good outfielder (I am hesitant to say very good, just because I want to see a little bit more still) with pretty good speed out there and a good arm (7 assists, I believe), and of course the ability to make a dazzling play here and there. The thing with him is he's a very aggressive outfielder, which has it's pros and cons. The pros have been on display all season with the great plays he continues to make. The cons were exemplified last year up in Fenway.

This is nothing of significance, just wanted to share my thoughts.

[Coco's Disciples]

Well I haven't seen him, despite the Sox games, so I'll take your word for it.

[ORS]

I don't thinks he's bad in the OF. Yeah, he definitely takes some aggressive routes, which will pay off when it works, and maximize the damage when it doesn't. So, you take the good with the bad there. And, he does have a decent arm. That's only half his contribution, though.

He doesn't do enough with the stick to play COF for a championship caliber team, IMO. His bat is better suited for CF, but he doesn't have the range play there. Offensively, he's replacement level, which should come as no surprise because that is what he is, a replacement. As a Sox fan, all I can hope is that his flashes of brilliance this year are enough to make Yankee management think he's a long term solution. I'd rather our pitchers have to face him than a Carlos Lee or Jason Bay type any day of the week.

[riverside sluggers]

Who do you guys play next?

they get the white sox after the all-star break

[Coco's Disciples]

Nice.

[a700hitter]

Mr. DP does it again with 1st and 3rd in the 1st inning.

[Optimist]

Giambi Grand Slam

4 - 0 Yankees

[Optimist]

D-Rays flash the leather once again...

5 - 0 Yankees

[ORS]

Triple A Tampa showed up for this series. The DRays announcer just put it as well as you can, "Thus far, this series has been gift wrapped for the Yankees."

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Looks like everything is normal again (against Tampa).

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

I wouldn't be suprised if the Tampa Bay Devil Rays were on the NY Yankees payroll

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Huff makes it a game still 5-3.

[ORS]

DRays woke up. 5-5 on a Cantu blast. Have a nice nap, boys?

[Optimist]

Tie game on a Cantu HR

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Just a heads up...Phil Hughes and Jose Tabata will be playing in the futures game today. Check it out at 4 PM on ESPN 2.

[Coco's Disciples]

Nice. I haven't seen Hughes before, I wanna see what all the fuss is about.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Wow is Bernie kiddding me with that? Talk about no range.

[ORS]

Melky gets on via an error again? Isn't that like 6 times in the last 6 games, twice today?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

The one thing that has annoyed me about Jeter is how he is so willing to easily give himself up and bunt. He is hitting 345, I understand it is late in the ball game but you dont have to bunt. All you have to do is hit it to the right side if you want to advance the runner. Swing the damn bat.

[ORS]

Rocco with a bullet to get Cabrera at the plate. Nice to see him make up for his blunders with his arm/glove the last two days.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Great throw by Rocco. Cabrera should have laid into Naverro.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Gotta love Kay's call on the play. I believe he called it an RBI single and then all of a sudden Caberea is out at the plate.

[ORS]

I'm not a Kay fan, but he's better than the Tampa asshats. I'm watching them on FSN on the tube, and the Sox on mlb.tv. At 4:00 I'll flip to the Future's game. Baseball, baseball, baseball.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I had the Tampa feed when the Sox were playing the D-Rays. They are among the worst.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

6-5 D-Rays as the Yankees blow a 5-0 lead. Kills a good weekend.

[a700hitter]

POS Lee up with 2 outs and he k's

[Optimist]

Damn you Rocco

[yankeessuck013]

holy shit what a catch, maybe game saving

[ORS]

Rocco, you have redeemed yourself.

[yankeessuck013]

HE GONE! (on a flyout)

fitting way to end the game

[Optimist]

Poor game from the Yankees and poor way to end the first half.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Terrible loss, lets see if the White Sox can do something here.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Tabata BTW grounded out to 2B against Homer Bailey.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I believe Hughes will be pitching next.

EDIT: Hughes will pitch the 4th inning.

[a700hitter]

Thhuuuhhhhhh Yankeeeeess Looooooosssssseeee! Thhuuuhhhhhh Yankeeeeess Looooooosssssseeee!

[RedSoxRooter]

Yanks lost. :lol:

[Optimist]

Yanks lost. :lol:

Could be worse....we could have lost the series.

[yankeessuck013]

or you could be 4 games back :lol:

[Optimist]

or you could be 4 games back :lol:

Could. ;)

(Thank you Jermaine Dye)

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

or you could be 4 games back :lol:
nah 3 games sounds good to me :D

[Optimist]

Yanks lost. :lol:


or you could be 4 games back :lol:


Thhuuuhhhhhh Yankeeeeess Looooooosssssseeee! Thhuuuhhhhhh Yankeeeeess Looooooosssssseeee!

Karma.

[yankeessuck013]

nah 3 games sounds good to me :D

or you could be 2 games back...nevermind

thanks rocco.

[yankeessuck013]

Karma.

yeah and the yankees DID lose.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

or you could be 2 games back...nevermind

thanks rocco.
:lol: Hey I had too.

[Mr Crunchy]

that tampa team can beat anybody on any day
yanks had them by the short hairs for the sweep but nys bullpen is just sad these days with the exception of rivera

[Optimist]

Jeter breaks his homerless streak and ties the game at one.

[a700hitter]

Jeter breaks his homerless streak and ties the game at one.The best SS on the Yankees just hit a HR and the Yankees are ahead.

[Optimist]

A-Rod puts the Yankees on top with a two run shot...

[Youk Of The Nation]

How can the ChiSox suck this much?

[a700hitter]

Jaret Wright has been very reliable lately.

[Optimist]

Farnsworthless strikes again.

[Optimist]

Mo cleans up Kyle's mess.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Wow where the fuck does this ump want Rivera to put the ball? On a tee for Thome?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Rivera gets save #400 as the Yankees sweep the White Sox.

[Optimist]

A sweep of the world champions? Great start to the second half. Now, let's hope it's just a sign of things to come in this half.

Now, if all the scores hold up, the Yankees will only be a half game behind the Red Sox by the end of the day. (I never thought it would only take 4 days to shave 2.5 games off of Boston's lead.)

[Jon_Papelboner]

How can the ChiSox suck this much?
They don't suck at all actually. The yankees are just better.

[RedRuffing15]

Well, its 6-1 right now, and Oaklands still threatening.

Good Career by Mo, and a good outing by him

But what could you expect from Farnsworth? He got us two outs in the 7th, which is two more than I'd expect.

[Jon_Papelboner]

A sweep of the world champions? Great start to the second half. Now, let's hope it's just a sign of things to come in this half.

Now, if all the scores hold up, the Yankees will only be a half game behind the Red Sox by the end of the day. (I never thought it would only take 4 days to shave 2.5 games off of Boston's lead.)
Well It was obvious we were gonna come back. The red sox are terrible against the AL. I believe they're only 3 or 4 games over .500 against the AL.:lol:

[Optimist]

Mariano makes it interesting, but then makes it look easy nailing down save 401.

Good game (except for A-Rod.)

[schillingouttheks]

Well It was obvious we were gonna come back. The red sox are terrible against the AL. I believe they're only 3 or 4 games over .500 against the AL.:lol:
Yet, you were only a couple games above .500 against the vastly inferior NL.

[ORS]

Well It was obvious we were gonna come back. The red sox are terrible against the AL. I believe they're only 3 or 4 games over .500 against the AL.:lol:
Your ignorance is really coming through here. But, you are good at that.

The Sox got hot going into IL play. The way they were playing beats most baseball teams. Good hitting. Good pitching. Good leather. They've cooled down since then. But, that's baseball.

It's not surprising that you think this, though. Anything that discredits their performance in your mind gives you some peace of mind. Even if it's wrong.

[26 to 6]

It's not surprising that you think this, though. Anything that discredits their performance in your mind gives you some peace of mind. Even if it's wrong.
The same applies to just about every member of Red Sox Nation when it comes to the Yankees.

[Manny Goes Boom]

The same applies to just about every member of Red Sox Nation when it comes to the Yankees.

I see...Yankee fans are not like that at all...:rolleyes: Exhibit A: Jon_Papelboner...B. your user name...C. the "Got rings?" shirts... need I go on?

[kreinbihl34]

Maybe one more ;)

[ORS]

The same applies to just about every member of Red Sox Nation when it comes to the Yankees.
Another preconceived notion? No surprise there.

FYI, I'll keep harping on you about this until you stop making broad, sweeping generalizations about our fanbase. All fanbases are equally full of shit. All of them have complete nimrods that make it embarrasing to be associated with them. All of them have people capable of some pretty despicable behavior in the name of the rivalry. You don't get this. For some reason, you actually think the Yankee fan base is in some way different and superior to ours. And, even more hard to understand, you think that shit will float here.

[rician blast]

Another preconceived notion? No surprise there.

FYI, I'll keep harping on you about this until you stop making broad, sweeping generalizations about our fanbase. All fanbases are equally full of shit. All of them have complete nimrods that make it embarrasing to be associated with them. All of them have people capable of some pretty despicable behavior in the name of the rivalry. You don't get this. For some reason, you actually think the Yankee fan base is in some way different and superior to ours. And, even more hard to understand, you think that shit will float here.

ORS, good points, and I should heed some of this myself I suppose.

I look at it this way...team loyalty is GENERALLY a product of geography. New Englanders tend to root for the Sox (although connecticut is split), those in the DC area are O's fans, those in Eastern Pa./West NJ might tend to be Phillies fans, etc. So that being established we now look at the citizens of various areas. There are a-holes in New England, there are A-holes in New York, there are a-holes in Cleveland, there are aholes everywhere.

The more we live and get around the more we find that people are basically the same all over...in terms of sports, we see a melting pot of knowledgeable fans, jerks, overzealous individuals, those who could care less about their local team, etc.in every market.

I know I have personally used to use the term "typical Yankee fan" to describe those "fans" that constantly throw the 26 WC in everyones face, that harp on the Bucky Dent shit, that make Buckner references. By my own admission and observations as described above I was painting all fans with one broad brush and that may be innapropriate on my part, as it is with 26 to 6's categorization of Red Sox Nation.

Since I am not the type of fan responsible for negative labelling of Sox fans, I have no problem doing my part to avoid the broadbrush approach...in 26 to 6's case, given his recent posts, he IS personally a cause of labelling NY fans in negative ways, so I wouldn't expect the same restraint.

[ORS]

The Ponson era is off to a good start.

[a700hitter]

No ARod tonight after his horror show last night. He's probably has double appointments with his 12 psychiatrists, or maybe he flew off for a follow-up mentoring session with Piniella.

[Optimist]

Ponson strikes out the side...

Now, let's score some runs.

[a700hitter]

How do Yankee fans feel that Fatty Ponson is wearing Tino's #24.

BTW A Yankee fan living in Baltimore told me that Ponson is so fat that he sweats gravy on the mound.

[a700hitter]

Big surprise taking 3rd on Damon's arm.:rolleyes:

[Optimist]

Ponson did a lot better than I expected. One big mistake in the first inning is likely to earn him the L, but he definitely did enough to earn another start.

[a700hitter]

Ponson did a lot better than I expected. One big mistake in the first inning is likely to earn him the L, but he definitely did enough to earn another start.He's a loser. He's one of those guys that does just enough to lose all the time.

[a700hitter]

Nick Green is ARod's replacement and he's 3 for 3. :lol:

[RedRuffing15]

How do Yankee fans feel that Fatty Ponson is wearing Tino's #24.
I wasn't really happy about that, he should be wearing like 68 or some other Linemans number

[Papelbon58]

A-Rod makes as much in 3 games as Nick Green makes this season, but Nick Green is the one with 3 hits and no errors, what a bargain

[yankeessuck013]

Nick Green is ARod's replacement and he's 3 for 3. :lol:

any errors?

[Optimist]

Probably should have stuck with Cairo.

[Papelbon58]

A-Rod up to pinch hit

[a700hitter]

A-Rod up to pinch hit...and he pops up.

[Optimist]

This would be a great setting for a comeback.

[a700hitter]

Is this some kind of joke, a 9th inning rally led by Andy Phillips, Aaron Guiel, and Bubba Crosby? I swear that they are luckier than any franchise in sports.

[Optimist]

Yankees get a big break.

[CrespoBlows]

That should be the game.

[Optimist]

Out three...I mean, sac fly that ties the game.

[SuperManny]

Wow, I wish the Sox could get 4 outs in the 9th inning too. Easier to come back that way.

[SuperManny]

The game is going to be delayed if the Yankees don't win it in the 9th here though. Its raining so hard.

Wow the tarp comes on with AROD still up to bat. Hmm lets see how AROD does when he has all this time to think about his big AB coming up.

[Optimist]

Anyone know how long this rain is supposed to last?

[ORS]

Tarp out. Seattle got completely jobbed there.

[CrespoBlows]

Anyone know how long this rain is supposed to last?

http://image.weather.com/web/radar/us_nyc_closeradar_plus_usen.jpg

[Jon_Papelboner]

Wow, I wish the Sox could get 4 outs in the 9th inning too. Easier to come back that way.
I'm sure you have. Umps makes mistakes all the times, some are bigger than others.(This one) Besides we were really getting hosed on the bad calls earlier this year.

[CrespoBlows]

I'm sure you have. Umps makes mistakes all the times, some are bigger than others.(This one) Besides we were really getting hosed on the bad calls earlier this year.

I can't recall a blown call to this magnitude. Could you fill me in?

[schillingouttheks]

Wait, so what happened exactly?

[CrespoBlows]

Wait, so what happened exactly?

Posada was called safe on an obvious ground ball out.

[Optimist]

I wouldn't call it obvious. You had to see the replays to see it.

Granted, some eyebrows should be raised when Posada gets an infield single.

[a700hitter]

If this game is called, what happens. Does the game get replayed in its entirety or do they pick it up where it left off.

[CrespoBlows]

If this game is called, what happens. Does the game get replayed in its entirety or do they pick it up where it left off.

Probably replayed, but they won't call it.

[a700hitter]

Probably replayed, but they won't call it.This rain could last for a couple of hours which would put them right up against the 1 am curfew.

[RedRuffing15]

Well its an official game, so it can't get replayed I don't believe, just reshedualed to finish at a later time, I'll have to look into it.

[RedRuffing15]

This is what I found, though I don't really know what it means
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(5) Weather, if the game is called while an inning is in progress and before it is completed, and one of the following situations prevails:

(i) The visiting team has scored one or more runs to tie the score, and the home team has not scored.

(ii) The visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead, and the home team has not tied the score or retaken the lead.

(b) Such games shall be known as suspended games. No game called because of a curfew, weather, or a time limit shall be a suspended game unless it has progressed far enough to have been a regulation game under the provisions of Rule 4.10. A game called under the provisions of 4.12(a), (3) or (4) shall be a suspended game at any time after it starts.

NOTE: Weather and similar conditions_4.12 (a) (1 through 5)_shall take precedence in determining whether a called game shall be a suspended game. A game can only be considered a suspended game if stopped for any of the five (5) reasons specified in Section (a). Any regulation game called due to weather with the score tied (unless situation outlined in 4.12 (a) (5) (i) prevails) is a tie game and must be replayed in its entirety.

(c) A suspended game shall be resumed and completed as follows:

(1) Immediately preceding the next scheduled single game between the two clubs on the same grounds; or

(2) Immediately preceding the next scheduled doubleheader between the two clubs on the same grounds, if no single game remains on the schedule; or

(3) If suspended on the last scheduled date between the two clubs in that city, transferred and played on the grounds of the opposing club, if possible;

(i) Immediately preceding the next scheduled single game, or

(ii) Immediately preceding the next scheduled doubleheader, if no single game remains on the schedule.

(4) If a suspended game has not been resumed and completed on the last date scheduled for the two clubs, it shall be a called game.

(d) A suspended game shall be resumed at the exact point of suspension of the original game. The completion of a suspended game is a continuation of the original game. The lineup and batting order of both teams shall be exactly the same as the lineup and batting order at the moment of suspension, subject to the rules governing substitution. Any player may be replaced by a player who had not been in the game prior to the suspension. No player removed before the suspension may be returned to the lineup. A player who was not with the club when the game was suspended may be used as a substitute, even if he has taken the place of a player no longer with the club who would not have been eligible because he had been removed from the lineup before the game was suspended. If immediately prior to the call of a suspended game, a substitute pitcher has been announced but has not retired the side or pitched until the batter becomes a baserunner, such pitcher, when the suspended game is later resumed may, but is not required to start the resumed portion of the game. However, if he does not start he will be considered as having been substituted for and may not be used in that game.

(e) Rain checks will not be honored for any regulation or suspended game which has progressed to or beyond a point of play described in 4.10 (c).

[a700hitter]

Since (i) and (ii) of number 5 do not apply, I guess that this would not be a suspended game. That might mean that it gets replayed in its entirety?

[RedRuffing15]

My question is, when you hear about the longest games in history, they say that the game started on like April 17th, and was finished on June 23rd, so I don't see how time can suspend the game unless thats an infraction of 4.12:1(http://baseball-almanac.com/rule4.shtml), but I was never aware there is a curfew by law, so I'm at a loss on this.

[a700hitter]

My question is, when you hear about the longest games in history, they say that the game started on like April 17th, and was finished on June 23rd, so I don't see how time can suspend the game unless thats an infraction of 4.12:1(http://baseball-almanac.com/rule4.shtml), but I was never aware there is a curfew by law, so I'm at a loss on this.I believe a curfew van be waived, but usually when it isw the last game of a series on the last trip by the opposing team. I have no rule to cite. I am just going by memory and experience.

[a700hitter]

They are about to resume the game.

[26 to 6]

How do Yankee fans feel that Fatty Ponson is wearing Tino's #24.

BTW A Yankee fan living in Baltimore told me that Ponson is so fat that he sweats gravy on the mound.
I didnt really mind too much. Ruben Sierra wore it too. And I think Russ Johnson did in spring training this year as well (if not him then someone else).


Melky Fucking Cabrera!!!!!!!!!

[26 to 6]

I loved seeing Damon at first :lol:

I watched until the 4th then came home and it was in a rain delay and started watching again as the game resumed. Can anybody fill me in on why players were out of position?

[Pinstripe_Pride]

Whoa talk about getting home at a good time. I turn on the tv and see MELKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooooooo

[He Hate Me]

Whoa talk about getting home at a good time. I turn on the tv and see MELKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooooooo

you love the melk dontcha?? :lol:

[Pinstripe_Pride]

you love the melk dontcha?? :lol:
Are you kidding I love him! I met him and have a picture with him and a signed picture. I'm a Melky groupie. :D

[He Hate Me]

Are you kidding I love him! I met him and have a picture with him and a signed picture. I'm a Melky groupie. :D

he looks like he's 9 years old, maybe 10 on a good day

[Pinstripe_Pride]

he looks like he's 9 years old, maybe 10 on a good day
Haha can't argue that. He's just so loveable, gotta love that.

[He Hate Me]

Haha can't argue that. He's just so loveable, gotta love that.

I'm a litle uncomfortable discussing those attributes of the Melk man. Can we go back to low brow humor?

[ARod2212]

Top 3 attended Yankee game for me. Sat in Section 39, saw a 9th inning rally to tie, a walkoff win, and had an hour and a half rain delay to crack jokes with Yankee fans. Awesome night.

Now, sleep. Precious sleep.

[riverside sluggers]

Suprise Surprise, people are already glorifying Ponson's first start and calling it another great pick up by Cashman (NESN, ESPN, yahoo sports, foxsports) Yeaa sorry but its sad to put high hopes on him being a consistent starter in the AL East during a pennant race

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Suprise Surprise, people are already glorifying Ponson's first start and calling it another great pick up by Cashman (NESN, ESPN, yahoo sports, foxsports) Yeaa sorry but its sad to put high hopes on him being a consistent starter in the AL East during a pennant race

Nothing like holding Seattles offense in check. I still can't get over that call in the 9th...Yanks should be 1+1/2 games back.

[He Hate Me]

Nothing like holding Seattles offense in check. .


I agree. It was almost as good as holding KC's offense in check ;)

[Optimist]

Melky. :D :thumbsup:

[riverside sluggers]

I agree. It was almost as good as holding KC's offense in check ;)

Cleveland- 12 games (0-7, 9.47 ERA)
Chicago- 12 games (1-6, 7.09 ERA)
Boston- 18 games (3-10, 6.58 ERA)
Oakland- 13 games (3-3, 6.58 ERA)
Detroit- 7 games (4-3, 5.44 ERA)
Seattle- 12 games (2-4, 4.84 ERA)
Texas- 17 games (8-2, 4.82 ERA)
Anaheim- 12 games (7-2, 4.50 ERA)
Toronto- 17 games (7-9, 4.27 ERA)
Tampa Bay- 22 games (6-8, 4.31 ERA)
Kansas City- 17 games (9-5, 4.21 ERA)
Minnesota- 13 games (9-2, 2.62 ERA)
Baltimore- Never faced

[RedRuffing15]

Oh Yea...who just saw that call out!!:D

[RedRuffing15]

Doubt by philips..2-2

But wow, thats the first time I've ever seen both managers arguing different Umps at the same timew.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Kelly Stinnett is the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen. He brings NOTHING to the table. Nothing what so ever. He cant hit and most of all hes a shit catcher. For a team with a massive budget they should atleast have a decent back up catcher not some trash like Stinnett.

[Mr Crunchy]

they let flash go for nothing
at least he could catch and occasionally pop 1
i doubt he retires if the yanks made him a mimimul offer

did they lose??
they were down 3-2 after 8

[TheKilo]

Kelly Stinnett is the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen. He brings NOTHING to the table. Nothing what so ever. He cant hit and most of all hes a shit catcher. For a team with a massive budget they should atleast have a decent back up catcher not some trash like Stinnett.


KS > Willie Harris

[a700hitter]

Theuuuhhhh Yankeees Loooose!!! Thuhhhhhhhh Yankees Looooose!!!!

[yankeessuck013]

KS > Willie Harris

idk, harris can run.....All the way to AAA

[ORS]

Kelly Stinnett is the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen. He brings NOTHING to the table. Nothing what so ever. He cant hit and most of all hes a shit catcher. For a team with a massive budget they should atleast have a decent back up catcher not some trash like Stinnett.
That is the baggage that comes with a difficult player like RJ.

[RedRuffing15]

Well Posada was supposed to start today, but since he got hit on the hand yesterday, and the game ended at like 1:30AM, they musta decided to give him it off.

[ARod2212]

Yeah, Posada was scratched 10 minutes before first pitch according to the Yankee pregame. Foul ball of his hand in the 11th yesterday, but the Yankees already used their bench up and he stayed in the game.

I never thought I'd call this team scrappy, but that's the way they are playing. If they keep getting pitching like this up and down the rotation they'll win a lot of games down the stretch. It would be nice to get Cano back soon.

[YankeeDoodle]

I never thought I'd call this team scrappy, but that's the way they are playing.
Welllllllll you shouldn't have to and it is oxymoronic to call a $200 mil+ team "scrappy", but yeah, always get a kick out of that one. ;)

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

That is the baggage that comes with a difficult player like RJ.
I would buy that if he was RJ's personal catcher. He doesnt even throw to him that often.

[riverside sluggers]

The fact of the matter is that he used to be RJ's personal catcher in Arizona, which probably helped them give him a paycheck

[ORS]

RS got the reference. Stinnett was RJ's caddy in AZ, and that's the reason he was brought in this offseason. If RJ weren't such a disagreeable person, he'd get along better with Posada, allowing the Yankees to get a more capable backup. Since the Posada/Johnson relationship isn't so good, they had to get someone to calm the headcase down. Enter Stinnett.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

RS got the reference. Stinnett was RJ's caddy in AZ, and that's the reason he was brought in this offseason. If RJ weren't such a disagreeable person, he'd get along better with Posada, allowing the Yankees to get a more capable backup. Since the Posada/Johnson relationship isn't so good, they had to get someone to calm the headcase down. Enter Stinnett.
Your right and Stinnett isnt RJ personal catcher anyway which makes him useless. DFA Stinnett call up Will Nieves. I dont care if Nieves cant hit I just want him to be able to make one throw down to 2nd base that doesnt bounce 10 times. What the Yankees should have done was take advantage of Boston trading Josh Bard to SD and try and get Bard right after.

EDIT: SD has 3 catchers on the 25 man, I wonder if they would part with Bard now.

[MC Hammer]

Your right and Stinnett isnt RJ personal catcher anyway which makes him useless. DFA Stinnett call up Will Nieves. I dont care if Nieves cant hit I just want him to be able to make one throw down to 2nd base that doesnt bounce 10 times. What the Yankees should have done was take advantage of Boston trading Josh Bard to SD and try and get Bard right after.

EDIT: SD has 3 catchers on the 25 man, I wonder if they would part with Bard now.
I really doubt they're gonna part with Bard as he is standing on his head right now.

AVG .366 | HR 6 | RBI 25 | OBP .428 | SLG .592

[Optimist]

Torre: Make A-Rod the DH. His fielding has been absolutely pathetic this year, and his most recent error has made this game competitive.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

You know when I go to the stadium I dont boo A-Rod but this is fucking pathetic. All the Blue Jays needed was one little crack, one little fuck up on our part to open the door for them and guess who gives it to them? Fucking A-rod. I'm really fucking tired of this now. What a fucking joke.

[a700hitter]

ARod has been whining like a little girl about his treatment. He should be ashamed.

[Optimist]

$ 25 million for a .931 FPCT.

:rolleyes:

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

ARod has been whining like a little girl about his treatment. He should be ashamed.
Thats the thing too. Every fucking time I turn on the god damn radio I have to hear media people defend the guy(Guys like Kay, Mike and the Mad Dog, Mike and Mike). The fucker is having a sup par season at the plate and a shit year in the field. No one can tell me anything different. He has an 892 OPS this year, that is 67 points below his career OPS and its 139 points below last year. The guy has had a shit season when you compare him to himself not any other 3rd basemen. The Yankees didnt trade for A-Rod too be any other 3rd basemen. I have had enough.

[ORS]

It doesn't help that Mussina is wound tighter than a long tailed cat's sphincter in a room full of rocking chairs. When something other than the job at hand gets into his head -- like being let down by your D -- he can be pretty craptastic. He wasn't hitting his spots as well after the E5, and that contibuted to the big inning.

[Optimist]

Yeah, I saw that coming as soon as the error was made. If a call doesn't go his way or something else goes against him, he melts down. I remember last year he struck out 5 in like two innings in Cleveland, had one call go against him, and didn't make it out of the 3rd or 4th.

[riverside sluggers]

Thats the thing too. Every fucking time I turn on the god damn radio I have to hear media people defend the guy(Guys like Kay, Mike and the Mad Dog, Mike and Mike). The fucker is having a sup par season at the plate and a shit year in the field. No one can tell me anything different. He has an 892 OPS this year, that is 67 points below his career OPS and its 139 points below last year. The guy has had a shit season when you compare him to himself not any other 3rd basemen. The Yankees didnt trade for A-Rod too be any other 3rd basemen. I have had enough.

I guess you guys didnt like his comment

"Sometimes we win games, sometimes we lose games. Oh well"

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Yeah, I saw that coming as soon as the error was made. If a call doesn't go his way or something else goes against him, he melts down. I remember last year he struck out 5 in like two innings in Cleveland, had one call go against him, and didn't make it out of the 3rd or 4th.
Hey, if you in a pitcher duel little league plays like that have to be made. Its like watching him in game 2 last year with Wang. He drops the ball, which leads to an Angels win. When your in a tight game you have to play tight defense. Granted I wish Mussina would have picked up him but you cant deny that if A-Rod makes that play its still 3-0.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I guess you guys didnt like his comment

"Sometimes we win games, sometimes we lose games. Oh well"
Hes lost a fan in me. I cant take it anymore. I've never seen a player with so much talent be such a mental midget. You could see it coming too.

[Coco's Disciples]

Another case of the media pounding on him, or a case of the positional switch? Something completely different? Realized he didn't deserve the MVP? Head in ass?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

That error that he had the night can set the tone for the road trip. You dont want to get off to that start.

[a700hitter]

Hes lost a fan in me. I cant take it anymore. I've never seen a player with so much talent be such a mental midget. You could see it coming too.You had to know he was going to have problems with intestinal fortitude when he disclosed the fact about his numerous psychiatrists and the benefits of therapy.

[ORS]

Hey, if you in a pitcher duel little league plays like that have to be made. Its like watching him in game 2 last year with Wang. He drops the ball, which leads to an Angels win. When your in a tight game you have to play tight defense. Granted I wish Mussina would have picked up him but you cant deny that if A-Rod makes that play its still 3-0.
Yes, I have no doubt that he gets out of that inning if ARod makes that play. No doubt at all. But, that's the thing with Moose. He is capable of pitching absolutely brilliantly, but everything has to be going his way. Bad defense, tight strike zone, blown call on the bases, etc. and he gets a little pissy. You can physically see his demeanor change. That is a weakness. He was dominating the Jays prior to that. Dominating. If he keeps his head, he probably strands Johnson at 3B with only one run scored.

[Optimist]

Pinch-hit Nick Green!

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

You had to know he was going to have problems with intestinal fortitude when he disclosed the fact about his numerous psychiatrists and the benefits of therapy.
Thats another thing that annoys me. What does he have to be so damn public with his private life. Why cant he just shut his mouth and be bland. Why does he have to describe him self as "brilliant" like he did the other day. Heres his chance to make up for it against Ryan.

[a700hitter]

He's got a 3-1 count in his favor. He walks. Nice move by the Toronto manager. Halladay was in a groove with a low pitch count and he takes him out after getting an out. What an asshole!

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Yes, I have no doubt that he gets out of that inning if ARod makes that play. No doubt at all. But, that's the thing with Moose. He is capable of pitching absolutely brilliantly, but everything has to be going his way. Bad defense, tight strike zone, blown call on the bases, etc. and he gets a little pissy. You can physically see his demeanor change. That is a weakness. He was dominating the Jays prior to that. Dominating. If he keeps his head, he probably strands Johnson at 3B with only one run scored.
I cant argue with you. He does have a history of blowing up when things dont go his way. I'm just frustrated with E-Rod thats all.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Big hit by Posada. 4-4

[Optimist]

Tie game.

A-Rod gets a (temporary) reprieve.

[TheKilo]

Gibbons is a moron. He removed his best pitcher after he got the first two hitters rather easily.


And now it's 4-4 on a dink hit.

[jsinger121]

How foolish is Gibbons to pull Halladay after 93 pitches and on cruise control.

[ORS]

No, that was the right move by Gibbons. Ryan is having a great year, he's a lefty, and Giambi hits from the right side of the plate for that matchup. What wasn't the right move was shifting. Ryan throws hard, and Giambi is patient. From where Ryan delivers the ball, Giambi won't recognize the pitch as quickly, which means theres a chance he's a little late on it. Walking the tying run into SP didn't help.

[a700hitter]

How foolish is Gibbons to pull Halladay after 93 pitches and on cruise control.I couldn't believe it when he came out of the dugout. He's an ass. Can you imagine how he would be crucified in Boston.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Quick Farm Report cause I have to get my mind off of the 3rd basemen (If you want to call him that)

Eric Duncan tonight increased his AVG to .285 with an OBP of 382 and an SLG of 533. He is having a big rebound season in AA after some struggles in AAA. Why the Yankees put him in AAA is beyond me. IMO he has reclaimed a top 100 baseball prospects spot.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Giambi is hitting around .360 off of Halladay and if you watched tonight Halladay did not have his good stuff IMO. I cant really knock Gibbons

EDIT: Giambi was hitting .340 coming into the game with 3 HR's against Halladay.

[a700hitter]

Giambi is hitting around 360 off of Halladay and if you watched tonight Halladay did not have his good stuff IMO. I cant really knock GibbonsHe didn't have his good stuff earlyon, but as with all great pitchers if you let them off the hook they find a groove. Halladay was in a groove when Gibbons came to get him. He was making easy work of the Yankee batters.

Edit: No 2nd guessing on my part. I called him an asshole before Ryan threw a pitch ti the "G" man.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

He didn't have his good stuff earlyon, but as with all great pitchers if you let them off the hook they find a groove. Halladay was in a groove when Gibbons came to get him. He was making easy work of the Yankee batters.

Edit: No 2nd guessing on my part. I called him an asshole before Ryan threw a pitch ti the "G" man.
I cant really argue it esp since Ryan blew it anyway. Lefties only have 3 hits against Ryan all season long. The problem that Gibbons should have with Ryan was walking A-Rod cause its not like Giambi laced a hit off of him.

[26 to 6]

ARod has been whining like a little girl about his treatment. He should be ashamed.
When did this alleged "whining" occur? Please, fill me in because I must have missed it.

[26 to 6]

No, that was the right move by Gibbons. Ryan is having a great year, he's a lefty, and Giambi hits from the right side of the plate for that matchup. What wasn't the right move was shifting. Ryan throws hard, and Giambi is patient. From where Ryan delivers the ball, Giambi won't recognize the pitch as quickly, which means theres a chance he's a little late on it. Walking the tying run into SP didn't help.
Good points. I definately can't second guess the move considering how good Ryan has been this year, especially against lefties. Until Giambi's hit Ryan had only given up a hit to 3 lefties this year. However, on the other side it makes sense to leave the best starting pitcher in baseball in the game with only 93 pitches, and like jsinger said, on "cruise control." Either option would have been completely acceptable IMO.

[a700hitter]

When did this alleged "whining" occur? Please, fill me in because I must have missed it.You are the only one that has missed it. He's been feeling sorry for himself and whining all season long.

[ORS]

Free baseball. Fuck. I've invested 3 hours in this game, and I really need to go to bed. 3:45 is right around the corner.

[a700hitter]

He gone!

[26 to 6]

Quick Farm Report cause I have to get my mind off of the 3rd basemen (If you want to call him that)

Eric Duncan tonight increased his AVG to .285 with an OBP of 382 and an SLG of 533. He is having a big rebound season in AA after some struggles in AAA. Why the Yankees put him in AAA is beyond me. IMO he has reclaimed a top 100 baseball prospects spot.
This is good to see considering him sort of falling off this seasonwith his AAA struggles. There were a lot of big expectations of him coming into this year after his bad year last season and his dominance in Arizona in the fall. Thankfully for him Phil Hughes has attracted all of the attention regarding Yankee top prospects this season sort of putting Duncan in the rearview as opposed to 2003-2005. Now he only needs to regain dominant status and hopefully we see him ready for the bigs sooner than later. I predict we may see him either mid-season or september of next year, and he will become a regular player in 2008. I hope it all plays out well for this guy.

[a700hitter]

Guiel Pinch Hitting

[ORS]

Did Buck Martinez just say that you pitch Jeter away (I wasn't listening with full attention) because he dives out over the plate? No wonder the US couldn't get out of the first round of the WBC.

[26 to 6]

You are the only one that has missed it. He's been feeling sorry for himself and whining all season long.
I've just seen him accepting all of the treatment like he should. He's taken all the responsibility and has done so with dignity. I dont think he could have handled it better. Please, if you could, refer to a specific instance for me because i'm truly lost here.

[a700hitter]

Ask some Yankee fans.

[ORS]

Speier is pretty nasty. I remember a couple of ABs where he had Manny total confused. Everything comes out of the same arm slot with the same initial trajectory........until it either runs in on righty (2-seamer) or away (cutter). Guess wrong and you are toast.

[riverside sluggers]

He happens to be a free agent at the end of the season as well. Wouldnt mind seeing Theo snatching him away

[a700hitter]

Mo in the tie game for the yankees. Both managers looking to blow out their bullpens in the first game of the series. Questionable strategy.

[a700hitter]

If the Yankees don't score in the top of the 11th, Mo would have to go 2 more innings to get the win. Do you think Joe is prepared to go 3 with Mo?

Edit: so what do you guys think? will Mo go 3 tonight?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

If the Yankees don't score in the top of the 11th, Mo would have to go 2 more innings to get the win. Do you think Joe is prepared to go 3 with Mo?
Depends on the pitch count.

[ORS]

I doubt he uses him more than 2. He would be in line for 2 days rest after 3 innings tonight.

Yankees are pissing away a golden opportunity here. Tallet is not a good pitcher, but the same thing happened to the Sox when Politte pitched a couple of scoreless innings in the game before the break. Here comes the heart against Rivera.

[ORS]

Blinky gets the motor running. I like that Wells and Glaus are righties......stupid Gibbons, stupid.

[ORS]

Nevermind.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Vernon Wells OWNS!!!!

[a700hitter]

Managers keep running on Posada this year and getting thrown out. Catolanato is not very fast, Vernon Wells hits the walk-off. Not too many guys do that to Mo!

[riverside sluggers]

Catalanotto gets his ass saved by Vernon Wells!!!

And just like that the Sox have regained their 2 1/2 game lead

[Optimist]

I saw that coming.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

This game was over in the 6th inning as far as I'm concerned. I dont care if they tied it or not.

[ORS]

Hey, I've seen that pitch location before. You can't give Wells a belt high one on the inner half.

[a700hitter]

I saw that coming.I didn't.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Hey, I've seen that pitch location before. You can't give Wells a belt high one on the inner half.
True, just ask Beckett.

[a700hitter]

True, just ask Beckett.Who remains tied for the league lead in wins.

[ORS]

Catalanotto gets his ass saved by Vernon Wells!!!

And just like that the Sox have regained their 2 1/2 game lead
Just curious, why is Catalanotto to blame there? He's not the type of guy that gets a green light to make his own decisions on the bases. I'd bet dollars to donuts he got sent. What's he supposed to do, not try and steal?

[a700hitter]

Theuuuhhhh Yankeees Loooose!!! Thuhhhhhhhh Yankees Looooose!!!!

[TheKilo]

Vernon Wellssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Who remains tied for the league lead in wins.
It wasnt a knock. ORS said hes seen that location before and I'm pretty sure if there is one pitcher Wells owns its Beckett atleast this season.