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Coco's Disciples
10-08-2007, 03:41 PM
Yankees win tonight forces a Game 5 Wednesday in Cleveland. Wang is throwing on 3 days rest, Indians are sticking with Paul Byrd.

ALDS Game 4: Cleveland Indians (2) at New York Yankees (1)
Venue: Yankee Stadium
Game Time: 7:37 EST

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Paul Byrd (15-8, 4.59)

vs.

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Chien-Ming Wang (19-7 3.70/0-1, 15.43)

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 03:54 PM
Sabathia and Carmona better be pitching tomorrow. One after the other.

SchillingIsTheNatural
10-08-2007, 04:42 PM
Sabathia should be pitching tonight in my opinion. He is a beast and I think he has the ability to pitch on short rest. Especially since he isn't the type of pitcher who strictly tries to overpower hitters. Works well for the Indians should they win......but if they lose......

I have a feeling the Yanks find a way to take game 5. Any word Sabathia may be on hand should Byrd struggle??

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 04:51 PM
If Sabathia is on reserve if Byrd struggles, wouldn't it make more sense to have Sabathia start the game seeing as he's the better pitcher?

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 04:54 PM
Victor Martinez is at 1st base tonight, Garko with the day off. Mienky gets the start at 1st for the Yanks


Paul Byrd (**9 games vs New York, 2-4 with a 4.40 ERA---**Career at Yankee Stadium in 5 games, 1-2 with a 3.48 ERA)
Johnny Damon, 3 for 22 (.136 avg) Double, 2 RBIs, Walk
Derek Jeter, 13 for 31 (.419 avg) 3 Doubles, Triple, 4 RBIs, Walk, 7 Ks, 3 SBs
Bobby Abreu, 3 for 8 (.375 avg) 2 RBIs, 2 Walks, SB
Alex Rodriguez, 5 for 18 (.278 avg) HR, 4 RBIs, Walk, 8 Ks, SB
Jorge Posada, 4 for 21 (.190 avg) 3 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 2 Walks, 2 Ks
Hideki Matsui, 1 for 7 (.143 avg) Walk
Robinson Cano, 4 for 11 (.364 avg) Double, 2 HRs, 2 RBIs, K
Melky Cabrera, 4 for 7 (.571 avg) HR, 6 RBIs, Walk
Doug Mientkiewicz, 6 for 20 (.300 avg) 3 Doubles, Triple, 5 RBIs, 3 Walks, 2 Ks
///
Wilson Betemit, 1 for 4 (.250 avg) Double, K
Jason Giambi, 3 for 14 (.214 avg) HR, RBI, 2 Walks, 3 Ks
Jose Molina, 1 for 3 (.333 avg)


Chien-Ming Wang (**5 games vs Cleveland, 2-3 with a 6.00 ERA---**Career at Yankee Stadium in 44 games, 26-10 with a 3.04 ERA)
Grady Sizemore, 5 for 12 (.417 avg) Double, 2 HRs, 2 RBIs, 2 Ks
Asdrubal Cabrera, 1 for 3 (.333 avg) HR, RBI, Walk
Travis Hafner, 2 for 9 (.222 avg) 4 Walks
Victor Martinez, 4 for 13 (.308 avg) Double, HR, 4 RBIs, K
Jhonny Peralta, 4 for 9 (.444 avg) 2 Doubles, 2 RBIs, Walk
Kenny Lofton, 3 for 7 (.429 avg) 3 RBIs, K, SB
Franklin Gutierrez, 2 for 5 (.400 avg) Double, Walk, 2 Ks
Casey Blake, 2 for 6 (.333 avg) K
Kelly Shoppach, 0 for 2
///
Ryan Garko, 2 for 3 (.667 avg) RBI
Chris Gomez, 1 for 3 (.333 avg)
Trot Nixon, 1 for 13 (.077 avg) Double, 2 RBIs, 4 Walks, K

**Byrd this season vs New York in 2 games, 1-1 with an 11.57 ERA. **On the road in 16 games, 8-4 with a 3.53 ERA

**Wang this season vs Cleveland in 2 games, 0-2 with a 15.43 ERA. **At home in 17 games, 10-5 with a 2.75 ERA

ORS
10-08-2007, 04:58 PM
Sabathia and Carmona better be pitching tomorrow. One after the other.
Why? If Sabathia pitches the type of game where he needs to be relieved by a starter, then the Tribe probably won't win this series.

ARod2212
10-08-2007, 05:21 PM
I'm happy they're sticking with Byrd and Sabathia for 4 and 5. I don't want to face Carmona needing to score runs. Doesn't guarantee anything, but the way things are shaping up I think the Yankees have the advantage.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 06:39 PM
KAPOW! 1-0 Indians on a leadoff shot by Sizemore.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 06:40 PM
Guess what time it is!!!

REVERSE DICKPUNCH TIME!!! KAPLOW!

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 06:40 PM
*snickers*

Coco's Disciples
10-08-2007, 06:41 PM
Guess what time it is!!!

REVERSE DICKPUNCH TIME!!! KAPLOW!

:lol: :lol:

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 06:43 PM
http://www.boogiestreet.com/bsgphotos/albums/userpics/10001/dppp.jpg

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 06:45 PM
Wang is leaving his pitches up. Martinez just missed a high change-up.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 06:47 PM
his sinker has been down since the Sizemore AB. I hope that continues.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 06:49 PM
2-0. :)

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 07:00 PM
lol, down goes A-Rod in a big spot.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 07:04 PM
The Indians will need much more than 2 runs.

Coco's Disciples
10-08-2007, 07:14 PM
1+ innings, 2 runs thus far and Wang is done. LOL!

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 07:15 PM
HBP, Wang is hanging.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 07:16 PM
Wang shit the bed again. In any comparison to Beckett, Wang comes up way short. As Torre walked to the mound the term "Dead Men Walking" came to mind.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 07:40 PM
Here comes the Yankee offense. For all the talking by the announcers about how Byrd knows how to pitch, he's got nothing. He's BP.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 07:47 PM
Wedge is throwing this game away by starting this bum. He can't throw everything on the corners. Eventually he gets torched on a ball that catches too much plate.

das11209
10-08-2007, 07:48 PM
Walking the number 9 batter in this line-up? Are you kidding me?

das11209
10-08-2007, 07:49 PM
Wedge is throwing this game away by starting this bum.


I am still hoping CC may come in relief if needed - and Carmona starts 5th if needed.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 07:53 PM
YES!!!

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 07:53 PM
Cleveland needs to keep scoring.

das11209
10-08-2007, 07:54 PM
Byrd is not gonna last long. 47 pitches through 2 innings.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Arod sucks donkey balls.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Moose holds serve. That doesn't bode well. This game will keep slipping away from Cleveland until the Yankee thunder busts it open.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 08:13 PM
Inning OVAH!

BBDoc isn't posting. I think he needs some help, so here it goes:

http://www.oddpic.com/data/520/you_re-doing-it-wrong.jpg

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 08:18 PM
Shoppach witha gap shot. Bad news for Moose. He must have crappy stuff.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 08:22 PM
Moose over 50 pitches in 2 innings with 3 walks. He's got nothing. He won't be on the hill for long tonight.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 08:23 PM
If he were Clemens, he'd grab his hammy and walk off the field.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 08:26 PM
yet another fantastic move by our soon to be unemployed skipper. Clemens is down for the count. Pettitte and Hughes are unavailable and Wang may or may not have anything. So when he puts Clemens on the inactive roster, he goes out and activates the lefty who cannot get lefties out? Why no Kennedy when Torre KNEW this situation could arise. Instead, we have a tired bullpen and a guy with nothing on the hill while we watch with baited breath to see if he can hold it.

yankeessuck013
10-08-2007, 08:28 PM
6-1.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 08:29 PM
Who will follow Moose?

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 08:30 PM
Moose is at 65 pitches. This year his pitches have turned into pumpkins at the 75 pitch mark.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 08:30 PM
Goodbye 2007. Another ALDS that we should have won, gone by the wayside. On the bright side, NO MORE TORRE!!!!

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 08:31 PM
Moose is at 65 pitches. This year his pitches have turned into pumpkins at the 0 pitch mark.

Fixed it for you

das11209
10-08-2007, 08:32 PM
Goodbye 2007. Another ALDS that we should have won, gone by the wayside. On the bright side, NO MORE TORRE!!!!

I won't give up on this team yet - they did score 8 runs last night.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 08:33 PM
Jacko, you seem despondent. First of all, Paul Byrd is on the mound, so a comeback is quite probable. If I were Wedge, I'd be warming up Sabathia about now.

das11209
10-08-2007, 08:37 PM
Jacko, you seem despondent. First of all, Paul Byrd is on the mound, so a comeback is quite probable. If I were Wedge, I'd be warming up Sabathia about now.

I think Wedge is already working on his starting pitchers against the Red Sox. Knowing the Yankees - that could be a costly mistake.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 08:38 PM
Despondent isnt the word. At least the future looks damn good with Torre out of the picture and the rooks looking solid. But losing to Byrd is similar to losing to Rogers last yr. Inexcuseable and terrible. This team should have come to play tonight. And from the 3rd pitch until now, they didnt. Fuck em.

das11209
10-08-2007, 08:43 PM
Lofton kinda took a step back after game 1.

redsoxrules
10-08-2007, 08:47 PM
LOL wang :lol:

so jacko what do you think about wang now?

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 08:48 PM
He's in one of his shitty stretches. I dont think I can consider him an ace anymore, but 2 games wont change the fact that he is still a solid pitcher.

Mr Crunchy
10-08-2007, 08:48 PM
you knew it could be a special evening when paul byrd,who tops out at 86mph,K'd arod with 3 straight batting practice hangers with 2 on in the 1st.
even webster gwynn called them clnkies or some fukin term that only he knew for hangers and arod just whiffed....
kids
the yanks got another run in them tonite but will they overcome a 5spot?
doubtful
now what ny
do you make arod a 32-35M per offer
he may have actually raised his playoff batting (.167)average since 04
so what do you do amongst this pathetic effort?
i sign him if im cashman but put a playoff bonus on it to justify the extra 10M if thats possible
25M per 10M for playoff achievments?
someone will bitch

its good to see shit heels like clemens xposed again like a pussed blister
october doesnt reveal character
it exposes it

i want the yanks to come back and win this win then lose in 15 tommorow but i think they knew they were cooked when byrd overpowered arod in the 1st with guys on 1st and 2nd

compare this guy to oneil yank fans
you gotta just be sick

das11209
10-08-2007, 08:49 PM
To be fair - Wang pitched on 3 day rest - but comparing Wang to Becket(ace to ace) is really reaching. Last time Becket pitched on 3 day rest in the postseason - he shut out the Yankees.

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 08:50 PM
Yankees offense putting away "making the pitcher work" strategy and helping Byrd out to go longer. 1st pitch outs are killer

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 08:52 PM
Wang and Beckett are different kinds of pitchers. beckett has the stuff to dominate one game. But over a full season, who do I take? its tough cause Beckett may just be having a career yr right now or he could be an ace for life. Who knows. One thing I know about Wang is that the guy will still throw 200 innings a yr and have an ERA at or below 4. Unfortunately, that doesnt do shit when you need an acelike performance with our backs against the wall, yet we get this shit.

das11209
10-08-2007, 08:52 PM
Byrd did way better than anyone expected. 74 pitches - does he come back another innings for the last 3 Yankee batters in the line-up?

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 08:54 PM
Despondent isnt the word. At least the future looks damn good with Torre out of the picture and the rooks looking solid. But losing to Byrd is similar to losing to Rogers last yr. Inexcuseable and terrible. This team should have come to play tonight. And from the 3rd pitch until now, they didnt. Fuck em.Yikes! The future looks bright? Moose looks finished. Rocket is gone and done. Pettitte is aging as is Rivera. You have an old injury riddled former steroid using 1B/DH. Your aging catcher wants a long term deal. Your SS has one maybe two years left as a SS. Your 3B might walk. Your CF Melky is an average player. Damon can't play CF anymore and Matsui can't play LF anymore. You have no middle relief, and your kid starting pitching haven't shown anything very encouraging. Your future looks like crap.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 08:55 PM
Wang and Beckett are different kinds of pitchers. beckett has the stuff to dominate one game. But over a full season, who do I take? its tough cause Beckett may just be having a career yr right now or he could be an ace for life. Who knows. One thing I know about Wang is that the guy will still throw 200 innings a yr and have an ERA at or below 4. Unfortunately, that doesnt do shit when you need an acelike performance with our backs against the wall, yet we get this shit.Puhlease! Steamer Stanley was a better sinkerballer than Wang.

Mr Crunchy
10-08-2007, 08:55 PM
the yanks have looked like hoss shit all series offensively
outside sabby walking 6 and a great game by damon yesterday their entire team offensivley gagged it up again including captain intangibles hip hip jorge posada and of course arod
playoff time isnt for softball teams
the yank teams of 96-00 werent softball teams like this one is

das11209
10-08-2007, 08:55 PM
Wang and Beckett are different kinds of pitchers. beckett has the stuff to dominate one game. But over a full season, who do I take? its tough cause Beckett may just be having a career yr right now or he could be an ace for life. Who knows. One thing I know about Wang is that the guy will still throw 200 innings a yr and have an ERA at or below 4. Unfortunately, that doesnt do shit when you need an acelike performance with our backs against the wall, yet we get this shit.


I still think Andy Petite is the real ace. Wang is a very good pitcher - but not as good as his stats show for.

On the plus-side Hughes looked pretty good down the stage. With Joba and Kennedy starting next year - Yankees actually look nice and young in rotation. Only think that might screw up things is another 28 million dollar mid-season acquisition.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 08:56 PM
FIRE JOE, FIRE JOE!!! (http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000003GYU001001/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_001/002-3299470-1227210) (clicky link)

Mr Crunchy
10-08-2007, 08:58 PM
wang always seemed to be on the verge of early collapse
if you get him early you got him
if not and he gets groovin he goes thru 12-15 hitters easily

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 08:58 PM
Just give these TBS announcers some Yankees gear already

Mr Crunchy
10-08-2007, 08:58 PM
whaddya say yaz old boy

das11209
10-08-2007, 08:58 PM
Yankee relief gets pretty thin from here on with Joba out tonight.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:00 PM
Yankee relief gets pretty thin from here on with Joba out tonight.or even with Joba. He didn't look too good last night.

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 09:01 PM
Wang and Beckett are different kinds of pitchers. beckett has the stuff to dominate one game. But over a full season, who do I take? its tough cause Beckett may just be having a career yr right now or he could be an ace for life. Who knows. One thing I know about Wang is that the guy will still throw 200 innings a yr and have an ERA at or below 4. Unfortunately, that doesnt do shit when you need an acelike performance with our backs against the wall, yet we get this shit.

Sorry to burst your bubble but I dont think Beckett will be reverting back to his 2006 self anytime soon. The guy is 27 years old and can only build from this solid campaign

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:01 PM
But you cannot say that for certain. Beckett was out of his mind this yr. It would be hard to improve on what he was this season.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:02 PM
HAHAHAHAHA. They are chanting Paul O'Neill in the stands. If only...

yankeessuck013
10-08-2007, 09:04 PM
But you cannot say that for certain. Beckett was out of his mind this yr. It would be hard to improve on what he was this season.

and you can not say that he will go back to his 2006 self...you're just hoping.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:05 PM
and you can not say that he will go back to his 2006 self...you're just hoping.

I think we both are. We truly have no idea what pitcher he will be.

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 09:05 PM
But you cannot say that for certain. Beckett was out of his mind this yr. It would be hard to improve on what he was this season.

I didnt say he was going to be an even better pitcher than he was this year. Its not out of this world for me to expect consistent 15-20 W, 3.5 - 4 ERA type of seasons

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:07 PM
I didnt say he was going to be an even better pitcher than he was this year. Its not out of this world for me to expect consistent 15-20 W, 3.5 - 4 ERA type of seasons

I expect those same numbers out of Wang. See, my point isnt that Wang is better than Beckett or anything. Just that Beckett is the guy I'd go with if I needed one game (ie ace) and I'd have a tough time deciding who I'd want for a full regular season.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:07 PM
Villone does his job of getting Haffner out. 12 more outs to go for Cleveland.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 09:07 PM
whaddya say yaz old boy

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/BoNeato/NYchoke.bmp

Tell TMW I was asking for him.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:08 PM
Get Sabathia up. Byrd's wings are ready to fall off.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 09:08 PM
And into the Indians' bullpen we go.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 09:09 PM
I expect those same numbers out of Wang. See, my point isnt that Wang is better than Beckett or anything. Just that Beckett is the guy I'd go with if I needed one game (ie ace) and I'd have a tough time deciding who I'd want for a full regular season.

Yeah, that's why you should be working with Cashman, lol.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:13 PM
Yeah, that's why you should be working with Cashman, lol.

By the end of next season, Joba might be our ace.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:14 PM
By the end of next season, Joba might be our ace.

It will be interesting to see if he can keep it up for 7+ innings.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:15 PM
Wedge will watch this game slip slide away.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:16 PM
Come on Cleveland - finish it off - don't snooze at this time.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:17 PM
Need another clutch double play from Captain here.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:17 PM
It's only a matter of time. The Indians will be facing a deficit by the top of the 8th. Wedge should be given a wedgie by the Indian fans. He's tossing away a golden opportunity for his team. Asshole.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:17 PM
its called bringing up your spirits for the reverse cockpunch.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:18 PM
Warm up the big lefty you idiot!!

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 09:18 PM
It's only a matter of time. The Indians will be facing a deficit by the top of the 8th. Wedge should be given a wedgie by the Indian fans. He's tossing away a golden opportunity for his team. Asshole.

What exactly is he doing wrong? Perez was one of the reliable arms that he could go to. He should have Sabathia in the bullpen warming up, though.


its called bringing up your spirits for the reverse cockpunch.

:lol: I love how you're always ready for it.

Coco's Disciples
10-08-2007, 09:19 PM
There's nothing I love more than seeing Jeter's parents a half dozen times.

ORS
10-08-2007, 09:19 PM
Why was VMart even on the bag holding that slug on 1st? Easy DP if he's just near the bag.

Coco's Disciples
10-08-2007, 09:20 PM
CAP'N CLUTCH DOES IT AGAIN!

ORS
10-08-2007, 09:20 PM
Room service from El Capitan.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:20 PM
What exactly is he doing wrong? Perez was one of the reliable arms that he could go to. He should have Sabathia in the bullpen warming up, though. He needs to put these guys away tonight. Although CC is on short rest, he can give him a strong 3 and close this out. If it doesn't work, he's got Carmona on full rest for game 5. He got lucky there.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 09:20 PM
For some reason it's even sweeter when it's El Capitan who grounds into the DP.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 09:21 PM
He needs to put these guys away tonight. Although CC is on short rest, he can give him a strong 3 and close this out. If it doesn't work, he's got Carmona on full rest for game 5. He got lucky there.

Oh, if that's all you mean, then I agree with you.

yankeessuck013
10-08-2007, 09:21 PM
Captain Clutch/ Mr. October? ..... Nope.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:21 PM
Need another clutch double play from Captain here.

Is Jeter becoming too predictable?

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:22 PM
Captain Clutch/ Mr. October? ..... Nope.He's hitting a very hard .188.;)

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:22 PM
the yankees pulled a Jeter

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:24 PM
Did not realise Farny was on the roaster !!!

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:25 PM
OK - now Wedge - please can you let CC finish the rest? Please...

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:25 PM
farnsworth for captain

ORS
10-08-2007, 09:26 PM
He needs to put these guys away tonight. Although CC is on short rest, he can give him a strong 3 and close this out. If it doesn't work, he's got Carmona on full rest for game 5. He got lucky there.
He's using the good part of his BP. Perez is a very good RP, then he has Lewis and Betancourt. Those 3 carried their BP this year. I'd prefer he use those three good arms that are used to doing it in lieu of a guy with zero relief appearances all year. This isn't to say I don't think CC could come in and perform as an RP, but it is an atypical situation, and not one we know how he reacts to. Some guys like their routine.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:26 PM
Cleveland needs some more runs.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:28 PM
Time for Lofton to get a hit.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:28 PM
http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0269-0608-2621-5138_SM.jpg

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:29 PM
He's using the good part of his BP. Perez is a very good RP, then he has Lewis and Betancourt. Those 3 carried their BP this year. I'd prefer he use those three good arms that are used to doing it in lieu of a guy with zero relief appearances all year. This isn't to say I don't think CC could come in and perform as an RP, but it is an atypical situation, and not one we know how he reacts to. Some guys like their routine.If he brough in CC, he'd rest his bullpen if nothing else and he'd have Carmona and a full rested pen on Wednesday. I think Sabathia is better than everyone in his pen. I can't see not utilizing both Sabathia and Carmona in these last 2 games. If he's trying to setup his rotation for the ALCS, he may learn a very bitter lesson.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:30 PM
he has a 4 run lead and the best middle relief in baseball on the mound. Why ruin the setup of Sabathia and Carmona when they really have this game in the bag.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:31 PM
he has a 4 run lead and the best middle relief in baseball on the mound. Why ruin the setup of Sabathia and Carmona when they really have this game in the bag.In the bag? Put down the crack pipe.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:32 PM
he has a 4 run lead and the best middle relief in baseball on the mound. Why ruin the setup of Sabathia and Carmona when they really have this game in the bag.

Not sure I agree with that part .

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:32 PM
Are you watching this game? 4 run lead with our team essentially handing them outs.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:32 PM
Lofton comes up empty again!!

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:34 PM
This Yankee line-up can score 4 runs faster than I can take a piss.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:34 PM
http://www.anythingxtreme.com/bimages/t/Tra-EA-DlxBtT.jpg

Look who is warming in the pen!!

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:35 PM
This Yankee line-up can score 4 runs faster than I can take a piss.

can you pee for about 6 months? Cause they'll score 4 runs between now and April 8th.

Coco's Disciples
10-08-2007, 09:40 PM
Lofton comes up empty again!!

Didn't he get like 6 hits in the first 2 games? Not like he's choking big time here.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:42 PM
can you pee for about 6 months? Cause they'll score 4 runs between now and April 8th.You haven't given up hope. You don't fool me.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:43 PM
8 more outs - feels like eternity!!

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 09:46 PM
A-Rod comes through.

Let's hope that no one else gets on base and that's his last at bat as a Yankee.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:47 PM
Slip sliding away for Cleveland, but my money will be rolling in when the yankees win against the stupidly stubborn Wedgie.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:47 PM
At least A-Rod answered all the post-season clutch craps - Don't go back to NY now.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:48 PM
Maybe it will be a 1 run game when borrowski takes the hill in the 9th. I'll just go to sleep and not watch, because I've seen that show before.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 09:49 PM
actually he had a 5 run lead with 2 outs the last time.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:49 PM
Perez is really making me nervous !!

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:50 PM
I never thought I'd say this, but Tito could manage the pants off either one of these idiots.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 09:50 PM
actually he had a 5 run lead with 2 outs the last time.Yeah yeah, stick your white flag up your ass.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:56 PM
Perez got out of that innings - please do not bring him back Wedge.

das11209
10-08-2007, 09:59 PM
We should thank Torri for using Joba with 5 run lead last night in my opinion.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:06 PM
How do you use Veras in this situation? It is absolutely inexcuseable.

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:07 PM
Yanks go to Mo - this is going to be an exciting finish.

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 10:08 PM
How do you use Veras in this situation? It is absolutely inexcuseable.

How did Veras even make the roster is what I want to know

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:09 PM
it wont be. Betancourt with dominate the 8th and Borowski will get a tailor made Jeter DP to assist his save.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:11 PM
How did Veras even make the roster is what I want to know

Joe and his favorites, you know how it goes. Oh man will I relish the end of the Torre era.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 10:14 PM
Joe and his favorites, you know how it goes. Oh man will I relish the end of the Torre era.

Steinbrenner made the same threat last year. How'd that work out? I really doubt that Steiny will fire Torre after the team's shitty start and how they came back to make the playoffs with Torre manning the ship.

What are you going to do if he doesn't get fired?

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:15 PM
Steinbrenner made the same threat last year. How'd that work out?

he was never specific like he was this time. AND Torre's contract is up at the end of this yr. He technically wont be fired, just not renewed.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:15 PM
Cleveland could use Keith Foulke about now.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:16 PM
What are you going to do if he doesn't get fired?

Get very happy. I find that Torre is only a product of the immense resources rather than skill as a manager. If we continue those resources while having better management of them, we could be very very good.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 10:17 PM
Get very happy. I find that Torre is only a product of the immense resources rather than skill as a manager. If we continue those resources while having better management of them, we could be very very good.

I said if he DOESN'T get fired, or, technically, does get renewed.

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 10:18 PM
swing and a miss, 4 outs to go

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:18 PM
I said if he DOESN'T get fired, or, technically, does get renewed.

vomit

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 10:19 PM
vomit

Geez, that dickpunch would be so bad that it would make you vomit, eh? I hate that feeling after you get hit in the balls and it feels like they're in your stomach for an hour.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:19 PM
Get very happy. I find that Torre is only a product of the immense resources rather than skill as a manager. If we continue those resources while having better management of them, we could be very very good.I believe the question was soliciting your thoughts if Torre doesn't get fired. I guess it is hard to concentrate under this pressure.

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 10:20 PM
1 inning left

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:21 PM
He should leave Betancourt in.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:22 PM
I believe the question was soliciting your thoughts if Torre doesn't get fired. I guess it is hard to concentrate under this pressure.

I dont want to think about Torre surviving another failure.

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:26 PM
Borowski needs to get over the fact how A-Rod hit a walk-off home run of him at the Yankee stadium. He is going to face him again - but this will be much more crucial situation.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Does Wedgie have to manage by formula? Betancourt looked strong and confident and he didn't throw too many pitchers. Why not stick with him instead of the shaky closer. How many teams have cut Borowski?

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Any chance this is Mo's last out as a Yankee?

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 10:31 PM
whoah announcer boy, he just jizzed himself about a catch that wouldnt make the daily web gem list

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:32 PM
The Indians needed some runs there. Three is nothing for Borowski. Hell Gagne is way better than him and he can easily throw away a three run lead.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 10:32 PM
whoah announcer boy, he just jizzed himself about a catch that wouldnt make the daily web gem list

Seriously. The catch wasn't THAT impressive. I expect that from Damon.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:34 PM
Captain proves useless again

yankeessuck013
10-08-2007, 10:34 PM
1 down.

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:34 PM
Key is to retire at least one before A-Rod comes to plate ..

Edit - OK - he did that - thanks to Captain Yankee.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 10:34 PM
Did I just hear Yankee fans booing Derek Jeter? Oh wow.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 10:35 PM
Key is to retire at least one before A-Rod comes to plate ..

It'd be nice to see A-Rod make the final out and see the fans' reactions. :D

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:36 PM
that ball was pummelled.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 10:36 PM
Nice job, you idiot. Just get the last 2 outs please.

I have a very weird feeling in my stomach about this game suddenly.

yankeessuck013
10-08-2007, 10:36 PM
6-4....

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 10:37 PM
Eric Wedge... here is your stupid sign, wear it proud

"Im going to stick with my 5+ ERA closer to give him confidence, instead of the sure bet to advance to the ALCS"

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:37 PM
Fuck Wedgie. He deserves to lose this game and this series. He's a stubborn ass.

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:37 PM
Told you this will be exciting - hopefully not disappointing.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:38 PM
Wasn't this guy cut by Tampa?

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:38 PM
Told you this will be exciting - hopefully not disappointing.Not for yankee fans.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:39 PM
What's his nickname-- "Belt High Borowski"

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 10:39 PM
Jeter sucks, Arod sucks, doo dah, doo dah...

yankeessuck013
10-08-2007, 10:39 PM
1 more out!!!

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 10:39 PM
Arod flies out, he swung out of the zone for that

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:39 PM
2 down. One more out in the Torre era. Bittersweet.

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:39 PM
Get the last goddamn out - so I can get some sleep.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 10:40 PM
2 down. One more out in the Torre era. Bittersweet.

It's not a given!

1 more please.

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:40 PM
Continuing my theme - last appearence from one of the classiest catchers in the Yankee uniform?

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 10:41 PM
Anyone else salivating of Wedge bringing out Borowski for a save at Fenway... I know I am

EDIT: Holy shit! Good bye Yankees, goodbye Torre, cmon Cleveland we're waiting for you!

yankeessuck013
10-08-2007, 10:41 PM
Bye Bye Joe and the 2007 Yankees....another underacheiving season

Cleveland,

See ya Friday at Fenway!!

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 10:41 PM
Posada is their pivot man, oh doo dah day...

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:42 PM
Inning Ova!! Game Ova!! Season Ova!!
Thuuuh Yankees Loooose!!
Thuuuh Yankees Loooose!!

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:43 PM
Thank you Cleveland - that game at times made me real nervous. I think somehow Yankees would have pulled through if there was a game 5.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 10:43 PM
Hey Big Stein:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/BoNeato/1_multipart_xF8FF_2_soxfan.jpg

ARod2212
10-08-2007, 10:44 PM
Fuck this.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 10:46 PM
Hurry back to the locker, we need to get some tee times:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/BoNeato/whosyourcaddy.bmp

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:46 PM
Quick question at this point - Is A-Rod a Yankee next season? What do you guys think?

ksushi
10-08-2007, 10:46 PM
THANK YOU 700!!!!! how good does this feel? discuss amongst yourselves...

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:48 PM
THANK YOU 700!!!!! how good does this feel? discuss amongst yourselves...It was my personal favorite post on this site.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 10:49 PM
Haha, you know what's weird? It's not even the World Series, the Sox are still playing, and the Yankees are playing golf!

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 10:50 PM
Staaaaaaaaaaaart spreading the news

You're leeeeeeeaving today

You've underacheived again this year

New York, New York...

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 10:51 PM
Bittersweet. Get Torre the hell out of NY.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 10:52 PM
Torre's synopsis of the season:

http://www.piecesoflearning.com/store/media/clc0256a.jpg

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 10:54 PM
Torre is talking about the future of the team and his past 12 years as manager of the Yankees, it sounds like his farewell song

das11209
10-08-2007, 10:55 PM
OK - I think it is commandable the way Yankees made the playoffs from being 14.5 down. At the same time - the final result does not live up to 200 million $ payroll.

Noone answered my question - I think A-Rod is gone - Mo and Posada stays.

I hope there is a second part to the T-Mobile commercial between Rocket and his wife and he doubles the prize money this time.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 10:56 PM
I really believe that this will be the yankees best chance at a Championship for quite some time. The are aging at key positions with no one ready to step in next year and play a major role. They will start to downslide. Matsui, Damon, Abreu, Moose, Mo are all in various phases of decline as is Jeter's SS range. ARod might opt out. Giambi is dead weight. The pool of young FA talent will be very thin. Shelly Duncan is not the answer. The young pitchers haven't shown anything too special. They need ML seasoning. It would be special if the FO infighting results in chaos for the onfield poduct.

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 10:57 PM
The first 3 ALCS games are looking like

Game 1- Beckett vs Sabathia
Game 2- Matsuzaka vs Carmona
Game 3- Schilling vs Westbrook or Byrd

Sox will announce shortly if they plan to bump Schilling up to Game 2

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 10:59 PM
Bittersweet. Get Torre the hell out of NY.

A mile wide, an inch deep. ŠTMW

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 11:00 PM
700, you have been preaching for the past couple yrs that our downfall was age and now our downfall is youth? The fact is, guys like Hughes and Joba stepped up major league when needed. Both will be in the rotation along with Kennedy who was dynamite down the stretch in big ball games. They did exactly what I had hoped they wouldnt do, which was be thrown into the pennant race late in this thing. They are ready. The big question will be who defects with Torre and will Pettitte exercise his option. Pettitte is the key IMO. He and Wang make a nice top 2 for the kids to grow under, kinda like Beckett and DiceK for you guys. If we rely on Hughes or Joba or Kennedy as the 3 next yr, we could be fine. If they are our 2-4 and we need to go to Moose as the 5 with no lefty, we are in trouble. This is going to be an interesting off season. We have the potential to really do something positive from within, but George might throw a wrench into the works.

26 to 6
10-08-2007, 11:00 PM
What the fuck!?

What happened to this team we saw FIGHT all year?

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 11:05 PM
700, you have been preaching for the past couple yrs that our downfall was age and now our downfall is youth? The fact is, guys like Hughes and Joba stepped up major league when needed. Both will be in the rotation along with Kennedy who was dynamite down the stretch in big ball games. They did exactly what I had hoped they wouldnt do, which was be thrown into the pennant race late in this thing. They are ready. The big question will be who defects with Torre and will Pettitte exercise his option. Pettitte is the key IMO. He and Wang make a nice top 2 for the kids to grow under, kinda like Beckett and DiceK for you guys. If we rely on Hughes or Joba or Kennedy as the 3 next yr, we could be fine. If they are our 2-4 and we need to go to Moose as the 5 with no lefty, we are in trouble. This is going to be an interesting off season. We have the potential to really do something positive from within, but George might throw a wrench into the works.
Age is your enemy, and your youth is not ready for prime time. We'll see what pans out in a couple of years, but it will be decline for the teams fortunes for the next couple oof seasons. You are young. The years will pass quickly.

26 to 6
10-08-2007, 11:06 PM
700, you have been preaching for the past couple yrs that our downfall was age and now our downfall is youth? The fact is, guys like Hughes and Joba stepped up major league when needed. Both will be in the rotation along with Kennedy who was dynamite down the stretch in big ball games. They did exactly what I had hoped they wouldnt do, which was be thrown into the pennant race late in this thing. They are ready. The big question will be who defects with Torre and will Pettitte exercise his option. Pettitte is the key IMO. He and Wang make a nice top 2 for the kids to grow under, kinda like Beckett and DiceK for you guys. If we rely on Hughes or Joba or Kennedy as the 3 next yr, we could be fine. If they are our 2-4 and we need to go to Moose as the 5 with no lefty, we are in trouble. This is going to be an interesting off season. We have the potential to really do something positive from within, but George might throw a wrench into the works.
If he does I wouldn't be able to blame him. This is ridiculous. Granted, back in May we would have gladly accepted this fate, but come on. Enough is enough. Why can't we just do what we have to do? Why is everything so hard for us when the calander turns and says October? I'm at a loss for words right now. Anybody who is fimilar with me on these boards knows that following our elimination the past few years I would go on a rampage...but I dont even have the energy to do that. Honestly, if we can't take a W from PAUL FUCKING BYRD we don't deserve to win. If Jeter can't do anything besides ground into double plays we don't deserve to win. If we're leaving all of these runners (the ones who arent erased via DP, that is) on we dont deserve to win. Hey, i love Torre and would welcome him back next year, but at this point I dont even really care either way. Whether it's under Joe, or Donnie, or Grardi, or La Russa, or Bobby Valentine, or Art Howe, or Mike Hargrove, or ANYONE the bottom line is we need to play respectable baseball to avoid this again.

Well time to get ready for another LONG, cold offseason.

Lets go Rockies!!

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 11:08 PM
If he does I wouldn't be able to blame him. This is ridiculous. Granted, back in May we would have gladly accepted this fate, but come on. Enough is enough. Why can't we just do what we have to do? Why is everything so hard for us when the calander turns and says October? I'm at a loss for words right now. Anybody who is fimilar with me on these boards knows that following our elimination the past few years I would go on a rampage...but I dont even have the energy to do that. Honestly, if we can't take a W from PAUL FUCKING BYRD we don't deserve to win. If Jeter can't do anything besides ground into double plays we don't deserve to win. If we're leaving all of these runners (the ones who arent erased via DP, that is) on we dont deserve to win. Hey, i love Torre and would welcome him back next year, but at this point I dont even really care either way. Whether it's under Joe, or Donnie, or Grardi, or La Russa, or Bobby Valentine, or Art Howe, or Mike Hargrove, or ANYONE the bottom line is we need to play respectable baseball to avoid this again.

Well time to get ready for another LONG, cold offseason.

Lets go Rockies!!

I can only imagine a rampage from you if you didn't even make the playoffs.

riverside sluggers
10-08-2007, 11:09 PM
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071009/capt.93548445bff249f9abb812c1635bbb45.aptopix_indi ans_yankees_baseball__nyjj119.jpg

The Yankees will be beasts in the regular season. But in the playoffs, since game 4 of the 2004 ALCS... this picture is basically them

26 to 6
10-08-2007, 11:10 PM
Age is your enemy, and your youth is not ready for prime time. We'll see what pans out in a couple of years, but it will be decline for the teams fortunes for the next couple oof seasons. You are young. The years will pass quickly.
Just put a cork in it man. The last thing I need right now is to read your ridiculous posts. Nobody gives a fuck what you think man. It was us who almost blew your huge division lead and knocked you guys around down the stretch. You have no merit to say shit, honestly. I can just picture you right now sitting there in all of your glory with the sense of fulfillment that you get when the Yankees lose, which is stronger than that of a Red Sox win, unfortunately. Just do us all a favor and go to bed man.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 11:10 PM
I am just curious what the Yankee fans thought about the Captain giggling numerous times through the early innings as they were down by a 4 run deficit in an elimination game. I was a little surprised. I guess he has finally got use to losing so maybe it doesn't bother him as much anymore. I saw none of the usual Jeter fire. Has he lost the fire in his belly? You have the whole fall and winter to ponder that question.

Taliesin
10-08-2007, 11:11 PM
A mile wide, an inch deep. ŠTMW

Yeah...exactly. Maybe it's "imminent"

and in keeping w/ not screwing w/ the baseball gods, I've been in full goofy tivo superstitious mode all night. Worked.

I'm preternaturally ecstatic about those fuckers stewing in a fist pumping gum popping how many times can you all go to the mound circle jerk loving false idol wearing miasma of their own doom. A crock pot of festering falsehood. Against a Byrd w/ no feathers or talons.

Like some kind of ritualistic cleansing of the soul. They are done...said three times gives it more credence.

Fuck them and all of their dubious fans. No more taunts. No more pantheons to their abject greatness. Not this day. Not for a long time. Redemption is sweet.

Ok....a little over the top but I'm quite content this beautiful October evening. And, we fucking deserve it for all the suffering and smushed remotes and moron New Yawkers. Ha!

And yay! We can beat The Tribe. I say w/ great respect and admiration.

26 to 6
10-08-2007, 11:12 PM
I can only imagine a rampage from you if you didn't even make the playoffs.
At this point i'd rather that, and watching the postseason from a neutral perspective than having to deal with this shit every year. Enough is enough.

26 to 6
10-08-2007, 11:13 PM
I am just curious what the Yankee fans thought about the Captain giggling numerous times through the early innings as they were down by a 4 run deficit in an elimination game. I was a little surprised. I guess he has finally got use to losing so maybe it doesn't bother him as much anymore. I saw none of the usual Jeter fire. Has he lost the fire in his belly? You have the whole fall and winter to ponder that question.
If not you, then me. I cant deal with your shit. Goodnight everybody.

Lets go Rockies!!

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 11:14 PM
Just put a cork in it man. The last thing I need right now is to read your ridiculous posts. Nobody gives a fuck what you think man. It was us who almost blew your huge division lead and knocked you guys around down the stretch. You have no merit to say shit, honestly. I can just picture you right now sitting there in all of your glory with the sense of fulfillment that you get when the Yankees lose, which is stronger than that of a Red Sox win, unfortunately. Just do us all a favor and go to bed man.I''m up and I'm stoked. As for blowing our division lead, ...well, it didn't happen did it? Best record. Home field advantage throughout the post season. Swept your nemesis Angels. Next, maybe we kick the shit out of the your conquerors. It's football season for you. So, go cry yourself to sleep.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 11:15 PM
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071009/capt.93548445bff249f9abb812c1635bbb45.aptopix_indi ans_yankees_baseball__nyjj119.jpg

The Yankees will be beasts in the regular season. But in the playoffs, since game 4 of the 2004 ALCS... this picture is basically them

It's basically them in the showers as well.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 11:17 PM
If not you, then me. I cant deal with your shit. Goodnight everybody.

Lets go Rockies!!So, you didn't notice Jeter giggling on more than one ocassion in the early innings down 4 runs. If manny had acted like that in an elimination game, it would have been a major incident in the Northeast from Connectictut to Boston to Providence. Hell, he goes to the bathroom and it's a major incident.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 11:23 PM
Age is your enemy, and your youth is not ready for prime time. We'll see what pans out in a couple of years, but it will be decline for the teams fortunes for the next couple oof seasons. You are young. The years will pass quickly.

They arent ready for prime time? They were the reason why we nearly caught you guys. If that isnt prime time, I am not sure what is.

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:24 PM
But you cannot say that for certain. Beckett was out of his mind this yr. It would be hard to improve on what he was this season.

You can't say Wang is going to be a stud for certain.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 11:25 PM
Just put a cork in it man. The last thing I need right now is to read your ridiculous posts. Nobody gives a fuck what you think man. It was us who almost blew your huge division lead and knocked you guys around down the stretch. You have no merit to say shit, honestly. I can just picture you right now sitting there in all of your glory with the sense of fulfillment that you get when the Yankees lose, which is stronger than that of a Red Sox win, unfortunately. Just do us all a favor and go to bed man.

lol huh? The Sox actually didn't almost blow anything, the Yanks just played out of their minds down the stretch. The Sox actually had I think the 2nd or 3rd best winning percentage during the 2nd half...

You don't understand what it's like to be a Sox fan. For fucking YEARS we've been shit on by you guys. The fact that we're playing in October while the Yanks are golfing, once again, is shit that will totally be thrown back in your direction (as it was thrown in our faces many times when the situations were reversed).

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 11:26 PM
You can't say Wang is going to be a stud for certain.

No doubt, but I do have two and a half yrs of track record in a yankee uniform with very similar performances. Beckett has one yr of stud and one yr of dud.

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:26 PM
How do you use Veras in this situation? It is absolutely inexcuseable.

WHO ELSE IS HE GOING TO PITCH

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:27 PM
No doubt, but I do have two and a half yrs of track record in a yankee uniform with very similar performances. Beckett has one yr of stud and one yr of dud.

So wait Beckett's time in Florida means nothing?

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 11:30 PM
WHO ELSE IS HE GOING TO PITCH

Mariano, like he ended up doing.

And Beckett's run in Florida means about as much as Pavano's and Clement's. Nothing. The NL is the JV league until proven otherwise.

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:30 PM
Just put a cork in it man. The last thing I need right now is to read your ridiculous posts. Nobody gives a fuck what you think man. It was us who almost blew your huge division lead and knocked you guys around down the stretch. You have no merit to say shit, honestly. I can just picture you right now sitting there in all of your glory with the sense of fulfillment that you get when the Yankees lose, which is stronger than that of a Red Sox win, unfortunately. Just do us all a favor and go to bed man.

Aren't you the guy that's the Yankee fan, AND a Met fan?

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:31 PM
Mariano, like he ended up doing.

And Beckett's run in Florida means about as much as Pavano's and Clement's. Nothing. The NL is the JV league until proven otherwise.

So wait....wait...wait...

What does that make Clemens over the last 3 or 4 years, of which the Yankees signing of him was a great move?

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:31 PM
They arent ready for prime time? They were the reason why we nearly caught you guys. If that isnt prime time, I am not sure what is.

Maybe because you were ascending to the mean and your world class lineup feasted on some AAAA pitching for a good month and a half in August?

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 11:31 PM
So wait....wait...wait...

What does that make Clemens over the last 3 or 4 years, of which the Yankees signing of him was a great move?

I said before that he would be a high 3's pitcher, which he was until he hurt himself. I never expected him to continue what he did in the NL, only that he might continue what he did in the AL.

schillingouttheks
10-08-2007, 11:32 PM
So wait....wait...wait...

What does that make Clemens over the last 3 or 4 years, of which the Yankees signing of him was a great move?

I dunno, but I think he just admited that the Yanks got beat by a JV team in 2003.

YAZMAN
10-08-2007, 11:32 PM
And Beckett's run in Florida means about as much as Pavano's and Clement's. Nothing. The NL is the JV league until proven otherwise.

WTF are you talking about? He handed you guys your ass on a platter.

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:33 PM
On a serious note....this is why I feel winning the division is so big. I'm shocked the Yanks lost this series, and shocked Paul Byrd was able to beat Chien Ming Wang to do it.

The playoffs are a crapshoot....but being the best team over 162 games means something.

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:33 PM
I said before that he would be a high 3's pitcher, which he was until he hurt himself. I never expected him to continue what he did in the NL, only that he might continue what he did in the AL.

Isn't a high 3's pitcher in the AL an "ace"?

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 11:33 PM
WTF are you talking about? He handed you guys your ass on a platter.

So did Pavano that season. And you dont see me clamoring for him to be our ace. Wait...

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 11:34 PM
Isn't a high 3's pitcher in the AL an "ace"?

I didnt expect him to be a low 2's guy like he was in the NL. I thought he would be a #3, kinda like what Wang turned out to be. A guy who could do very well over a full season, but not necessarily your first choice to pitch a playoff game.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 11:35 PM
No Yankee fan noticed the Jeter Giggles. Hmmm. What did my Sox fan brethren think about it. I thought it was really out of character in a game where the Yanks were facing elimination.

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:35 PM
So did Pavano that season. And you dont see me clamoring for him to be our ace. Wait...

Pavano in '03? His ERA+ was 92.

12-13 with a 4.30 ERA

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:36 PM
I didnt expect him to be a low 2's guy like he was in the NL. I thought he would be a #3, kinda like what Wang turned out to be. A guy who could do very well over a full season, but not necessarily your first choice to pitch a playoff game.

So let me get this straight.

CMW as a #3 > Josh Beckett as a #1

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 11:36 PM
No, Yankee fan noticed the Jeter Giggles. Hmmm. What did my Sox fan brethren think about it. I thought it was really out of character in a game where the Yanks were facing elimination.

Maybe you're starting to swing the other way.

jacksonianmarch
10-08-2007, 11:38 PM
So let me get this straight.

CMW as a #3 > Josh Beckett as a #1

You arent following me. People have many definitions of an ace. One definition is that they can lead a pitching staff, which both Beckett and CMW have done effectively. In that breath, both are aces.

But to take it one step futher, an ace is a guy you can throw out there in a must win and feel pretty good about taking that game. Beckett fits that bill right now, while Wang obviously does not.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 11:39 PM
Maybe you're starting to swing the other way.I guess Giggling is just one of the many intangibles that he brings to the table. Like I said before. Manny would have been dissected like a lab animal if he had done that.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 11:41 PM
You arent following me. People have many definitions of an ace. One definition is that they can lead a pitching staff, which both Beckett and CMW have done effectively. In that breath, both are aces.

But to take it one step futher, an ace is a guy you can throw out there in a must win and feel pretty good about taking that game. Beckett fits that bill right now, while Wang obviously does not.Aren't aces supposed to win big games like Whitey Ford, Ron Guidry, Josh Beckett* and Curt Schilling*?

* Still active

Taliesin
10-08-2007, 11:41 PM
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You don't understand what it's like to be a Sox fan. For fucking YEARS we've been shit on by you guys. The fact that we're playing in October while the Yanks are golfing, once again, is shit that will totally be thrown back in your direction (as it was thrown in our faces many times when the situations were reversed).

Yes. No way for them to understand. Fans since 96'. In the grand scheme none of us should care this much. It makes no sense. On any kind of intellectual level. It just makes sense on a visceral level for the romantics and if you're a baseball fan...you're a romantic. Yeah..yeah. No guy I'm sure wants to hear that, but honestly it's true. Passionate to the extreme because we have this ordeal that we undergo. Year after year. Game after game for the long haul...and you just never know until the last out. No other game can profess that truism.

These puppies are just having a new york state of mind kinda minute....they need some suffering and some girl to tell them that yes...they are faking orgasm and here's how to do it correctly and grow up and fall in love and actually have some kind of adversity like uh oh I only have 5 bucks in the bank and the rent is due and how do I get out of this without mom and dad bailing me out.

And, as improbable as it is. As, entirely nonsensical as it is....I love this game because it's just simply life. If you pay attention. Mostly in it's quiet moments if the announcers would just shut up.

a700hitter
10-08-2007, 11:43 PM
Yes. No way for them to understand. Fans since 96'. In the grand scheme none of us should care this much. It makes no sense. On any kind of intellectual level. It just makes sense on a visceral level for the romantics and if you're a baseball fan...you're a romantic. Yeah..yeah. No guy I'm sure wants to hear that, but honestly it's true. Passionate to the extreme because we have this ordeal that we undergo. Year after year. Game after game for the long haul...and you just never know until the last out. No other game can profess that truism.

These puppies are just having a new york state of mind kinda minute....they need some suffering and some girl to tell them that yes...they are faking orgasm and here's how to do it correctly and grow up and fall in love and actually have some kind of adversity like uh oh I only have 5 bucks in the bank and the rent is due and how do I get out of this without mom and dad bailing me out.

And, as improbable as it is. As, entirely nonsensical as it is....I love this game because it's just simply life. If you pay attention. Mostly in it's quiet moments if the announcers would just shut up.
Great Post!!:D

Gom
10-08-2007, 11:51 PM
I must say...we sucked. We had our chances, and we blew it. The stadium tried to get into the game, but how many times can we get amped up and not get that clutch hit.

Believe it or not, I was more upset after the game 2 loss than the series loss. We just were behind the 8 ball and couldn't get out of it. Oh well.

TheKilo
10-08-2007, 11:52 PM
Props to Gom for actually showing up

TheKilo
10-09-2007, 12:25 AM
Listen to October 8th - Yankees Rewind (http://www.wcbs880.com/pages/3152.php)


Suzyn Waldman is being completely unprofessional here.

schillingouttheks
10-09-2007, 12:37 AM
OF ALL THE DRAMATIC THINGS I'VE EVER HEARD....

yankees228
10-09-2007, 01:08 AM
Just got back from the game. Not much to say. Quite a sudden end to the season. Anyways, good luck to the Sox fans in the ALCS.

AlexanderTheGreat13
10-09-2007, 01:27 AM
Same I was at the game tonight quite an end to the Torre era it seems.

See Red
10-09-2007, 02:14 AM
Now that the Yankees are gone, here's to hoping that 26 to 6 has to update his member title after the World Series.

Gom
10-09-2007, 02:43 AM
I haven't missed a playoff game since 2002, and I'm getting tired of getting my post-season refund. At least Torre is done. What a loser.

example1
10-09-2007, 04:44 AM
Listen to October 8th - Yankees Rewind (http://www.wcbs880.com/pages/3152.php)


Suzyn Waldman is being completely unprofessional here.

Wow. He had to talk her off the ledge like Joe Torre is her dead puppy or something.

jacksonianmarch
10-09-2007, 06:27 AM
Listen to October 8th - Yankees Rewind (http://www.wcbs880.com/pages/3152.php)


Suzyn Waldman is being completely unprofessional here.

you are preaching to the choir. There arent too many yankee fans who tolerate her, but she is irremoveable. Kinda like Kay.

Mr Crunchy
10-09-2007, 07:22 AM
i hate her
and i hate the way they present her as if she knew something relevant about baseball
her clemens intro back in may couldve gagged a maggot and it will be shown in boston arenas for all eternity followed by his limping off the mound in game 2

anyone notice the cemetary flowers seem to have gotten a life of their own overnight??
just a reminder that God is looking down with a smile this day

Paradisecity
10-09-2007, 07:48 AM
Suzyn Waldman.

What do you say about Suzyn Waldman?

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2007/05/suzyn_waldman_h.html


Someone else said it, and I agree- Suzyn Waldman should be announcing WWE matches.

Mr Crunchy
10-09-2007, 07:55 AM
fukin ay tom
its great to be alive today

YAZMAN
10-09-2007, 08:13 AM
Yeah, they gave Rajaa the call, but evidently his cell phone dropped it.

VA Sox Fan
10-09-2007, 08:13 AM
I didn't make it to the end of the game last night. Crunch said it all in another post, softball teams don't make it in the post season. Torre was out of his mind starting Wang last night on 3 days of rest and after a bad first outing. He should be fired for that alone.

Nice of the Fraud to actually get a post season hit/HR....please, go away...preferably to the NL.

I was hoping to face the NYY in the ALCS. Now it'll be a tough series against the Indians. I like our chances. I love this TEAM.

Always great for the Underacheivers to underacheive once again.

I heard someone on ESPN picked the Yankees and the Phillies to be in the WS...bwahahahahaha! These people actually get paid for their opinions? :lol: