I don’t know if Bogey’s, and Raffy’s thought process is the same as it was when the season started. It’s been a rough season to say it mildly, and Bloom has pissed people off more than once along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellhorn04
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I don’t know if Bogey’s, and Raffy’s thought process is the same as it was when the season started. It’s been a rough season to say it mildly, and Bloom has pissed people off more than once along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellhorn04
Add 8% inflation and, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by notin
If here the only or even the second best SS on the market, maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh
That's quite the word salad....Quote:
Originally Posted by moonslav59
They’re agents with very specific foci will handle the negotiations. It will be about money and years and not winning and feelings…Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Red
Yes years, and money will be the big deciders, but don’t discount feelings especially with Bogey.Quote:
Originally Posted by notin
I mean.... that should help the Red Sox, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Red
$1M more and most players will take the higher offer, unless taxes, cost of living and endorsement opportunities tip the balance.
Make Bogey a fair market value offer, and move on, if he says no. There are other very good players available. It won't be the end of the world, if we replace him, in kind, or upgrade several positions, instead.
To me, Devers is the heart and soul of this team and provides intangibles not captured by stats and data. I've often said, "Devers Forevers," but I realize there are limits to just how high we should go, but I'd make the very best offer we can come up with to keep him. He is not easy to replace "in kind."
If it's a big enough contract, $1 million will probably be outweighed by those other considerations.Quote:
Originally Posted by moonslav59
If reports are accurate, Theo closed the deal with Lester by bumping their offer a whopping $20 million higher than the Red Sox best offer.
Again if reports are accurate, the Yankees closed the deal with Cole by adding a ninth year at $36 million. Two other teams were willing to go to 8 years at $36 million.
Sometimes you really have to beat the crap out of the next best offer to make the player feel truly comfortable they're making the right decision!
That's what always gave me a little added respect for Paul O'Neill and Bernie Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellhorn04
They both took less to stay with the Yankees.
Some guys do. They're in the minority, but they do exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDavis76
For sure!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellhorn04
Riley signing the deal he did does not help Raffy, but it only takes one owner to go higher, and longer than the rest, and I think there are a few around. I don’t think JH is one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellhorn04
Riley was several years away from free agency, but his deal could be used as a sort of baseline for Devers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Red
If JH is willing to pay Devers what he wants, maybe $325 million or whatever, that will make it pretty damn hard to keep Bogey too.
If they don't make a very serious effort it's going to yet another PR disaster. I think they've had enough of them lately.
Agree. I think Bogey is gone, and Raffy is 50-50. Losing both will be a PR disaster, and then some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellhorn04