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    Re: 2013 Spring Training

    Quote Originally Posted by SoxSport View Post
    Starters have been good in ST. Maybe Farrell's influence. When veterans do good in ST, it's usually a sign they are in shape. You worry when they do bad. It could be up or down for them.
    Hopefully our pitching staff put their shit together for once and for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iortiz View Post
    Problem hasn't been offense the past 2 yrs. Pitching has and our FO is still waiting a miracle or something.
    Why are you mentioning the offense of the past two year? There like 3 everyday players from that group currently in starting roles. Did you stop watching mid August? The offense had penty of work that needed to be done this year.

    Are you seriously calling Lester and Buccholz pitching to career averages(which is what they need to do for the rotation to be good) a miracle? :lol: I guess I will never understand that thought process.

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    Cherington's latest criteria as the most important on whether Bradley will stick: "will he play every day? is he ready to play in the majors? Does he make the Red Sox better?"
    Cherrington stated this very well. It means Cherrington can bring him back down once Ortiz returns and Gomes needs a spot-- since he won't platoon Bradley.

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    Red Sox starters in spring training (counting Lackey against Puerto Rico): 78.2 IP, 57 H, 22 R, 22 ER, 20 BB, 60 K. 2.52 ERA

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    Re: 2013 Spring Training

    From Scott Lauber's Twitter.

    Facing Twins' Double-A team, Daniel Bard loaded bases on broken-bat single, two walks, then hit batter with two out #RedSox
    a700hitter is right, 2012 Bard is back. He was doing decent at the beginning of Spring Training, but now it seems he has taken a major step back his last two outings. The walks and hit batters has got to go. His control is still a huge concern.

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    5 scoreless for Aceves today against a good Jays lineup. Promising for him as #6 starter.

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    2 scoreless innings for Jose De La Torre, who reportedly pitched well for PR in the WBC. It would be hilarious if De La Torre ends up as a useful pitcher. He's the guy we traded Lillibridge for and is what we have left for Youkilis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    5 scoreless for Aceves today against a good Jays lineup. Promising for him as #6 starter.
    Lester and Buchholz have had solid springs. Aceves, Dempster, Doubront, and Lackey have all shown us positive things this spring. I was impressed by Aceves today and Lackey yesterday. The starting pitching is looking good, not to mention Aceves is showing us something good as the 6th starter/swing man guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Scoreless inning for Jose De La Torre, who reportedly pitched well for PR in the WBC. It would be hilarious if De La Torre ends up as a useful pitcher. He's the guy we traded Lillibridge for and is what we have left for Youkilis.
    He's a 27 year old bush leaguer. There is not a chance that he makes the team as a ball boy nevermind as a useful pitcher.
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    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Yesterday, Farrell was quoted saying the organization doesn't see Bradley as a left fielder.

    Today, Bradley played left field for 1/2 of the game.

    After the game, Farrell said the organization changed their mind on Bradley playing left field.

    Got to think this means they're seriously considering starting him out with the big club in NY.

    My guess is that they start him out with Boston, and when Ortiz gets back, they make their decision. If he's still playing well, you keep him up. If he's struggling, you send him down and get his 20 days in.
    Quote Originally Posted by seabeachfred View Post
    Also we have to trade Bogaerts and Bradley while they still have some interest from other teams. They are lemons. Are you aware that X is hitting less than 130 with RISP. As I said in April we could have a choker on our hands. I will say this August....WE DO HAVE A CHOKER ON OUR HANDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoxFanForsyth View Post
    Yesterday, Farrell was quoted saying the organization doesn't see Bradley as a left fielder.

    Today, Bradley played left field for 1/2 of the game.

    After the game, Farrell said the organization changed their mind on Bradley playing left field.

    Got to think this means they're seriously considering starting him out with the big club in NY.

    My guess is that they start him out with Boston, and when Ortiz gets back, they make their decision. If he's still playing well, you keep him up. If he's struggling, you send him down and get his 20 days in.
    The statement as not viewing him as a left fielder was just a stupid and unecessary remark.
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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Re: 2013 Spring Training

    Quote Originally Posted by SoxFanForsyth View Post
    Yesterday, Farrell was quoted saying the organization doesn't see Bradley as a left fielder.

    Today, Bradley played left field for 1/2 of the game.

    After the game, Farrell said the organization changed their mind on Bradley playing left field.

    Got to think this means they're seriously considering starting him out with the big club in NY.

    My guess is that they start him out with Boston, and when Ortiz gets back, they make their decision. If he's still playing well, you keep him up. If he's struggling, you send him down and get his 20 days in.
    Farrell says he likes his arm in RF. He may have been thinking Victorino in LF, which makes sense.
    It's possible Farrell has a slightly different view than the FO. You would expect Farrell has more clout in the organization upstairs than Valentine, from his previous experience as a coach in Boston.

    You can't underestimate the positive effect on the pitching a defensive OF of Vic-Ells-Bradley would have. They know that now. Perhaps Cherington didn't see that when he signed Gomes. Bradley wasn't in focus then.

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    Re: 2013 Spring Training

    Quote Originally Posted by redsoxfan3 View Post
    From Scott Lauber's Twitter.



    a700hitter is right, 2012 Bard is back. He was doing decent at the beginning of Spring Training, but now it seems he has taken a major step back his last two outings. The walks and hit batters has got to go. His control is still a huge concern.
    You would think Jocketty would take heed about changing roles for Chapman--based on Bard's experience. He's got one of the top closers in Baseball, and he wants to make him a starter--against the intuition of his manager and the player's own wishes. Chapman won't be the same pitcher as a starter, because he has to take something off his fastball--like Bard had to do. Plus Chapman doesn't have many pitches.

    The other example is Neifi Perez, who developed arm problems on the shift to starter.

    Never undervalue the closer role, if you use a closer regularly in important game situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsoxfan3 View Post
    From Scott Lauber's Twitter.



    a700hitter is right, 2012 Bard is back. He was doing decent at the beginning of Spring Training, but now it seems he has taken a major step back his last two outings. The walks and hit batters has got to go. His control is still a huge concern.
    Bard seems like a headcase still. It doesn't help the media is following him every day and prodding they do doesn't help. Give him 2 months to work it out before a change of scenery is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoxSport View Post
    Farrell says he likes his arm in RF. He may have been thinking Victorino in LF, which makes sense.
    It's possible Farrell has a slightly different view than the FO. You would expect Farrell has more clout in the organization upstairs than Valentine, from his previous experience as a coach in Boston.

    You can't underestimate the positive effect on the pitching a defensive OF of Vic-Ells-Bradley would have. They know that now. Perhaps Cherington didn't see that when he signed Gomes. Bradley wasn't in focus then.
    I'll tell you one thing right now - with a defense of Ross behind the dish (on occasion), WMB, Iggy, and Pedroia in the infield, and Bradley - Ells - Vic in the outfield, this team will steal a lot of runs from opponents.
    Quote Originally Posted by seabeachfred View Post
    Also we have to trade Bogaerts and Bradley while they still have some interest from other teams. They are lemons. Are you aware that X is hitting less than 130 with RISP. As I said in April we could have a choker on our hands. I will say this August....WE DO HAVE A CHOKER ON OUR HANDS.

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