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    Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    At least for the purposes of the salary cap.

    According to Alex Speier of WEEI.com, the Red Sox only added $2 million to the 2010 payroll for luxury tax purposes after signing Adrian Beltre and trading Casey Kotchman to the Mariners for Bill Hall.

    It's some pretty clever maneuvering. The $5 million player option for Adrian Beltre is key, as it pulls his average annual value to $7 million per season. With that contract in place, the Red Sox agreed to trade Kotchman -- likely to make $3.5 million in arbitation -- to the Mariners for Hall, whose contract averages $6 million per season. In turn, the Mariners will kick in around $7.5 million as part of the trade, which will be deducted from the Red Sox payroll for luxury tax purposes. Add it all up and the Red Sox were able to sign Beltre and acquire Hall for just around $2 million. Not bad, Theo. Not bad at all.
    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=MLB&id=2616

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    Good stuff

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    So he wont cost too much, but he sucks. He did OPS under .700 last yr.
    The rebuild is complete.

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    Name one bench player on the Yankees roster better.
    In Plump We Trust.

    "That was a very well laid out, rational point. But I will still hold to my emotional opinion based on no facts or evidence." - Everyone but Plump.

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    Like fucking clockwork. Holy hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;515580;
    So he wont cost too much, but he sucks. He did OPS under .700 last yr.
    I'm heartbroken that we're stuck with a guy who averaged a 3.9 WAR 2006-2008 for a whopping $2 million. Jacko said he sucks, and we all know how reasonable he is.

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    I am just playing your game Imperial.
    The rebuild is complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipre;515582;
    Like fucking clockwork. Holy hell.
    The bitterness of palpable. Jacko spent quite a bit of his time arguing how Beltre would be a huge blow to the Red Sox in luxury tax. He could have just admitted he was wrong, but that would require a small amount of maturity.

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;515584;
    I am just playing your game Imperial.
    Bullshit.

    This is your game. Always has been. Always will be.

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;515584;
    I am just playing your game Imperial.
    If there's another guy named Imperial who spends his free time baiting on a Yankees board, I promise it's not me.

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;515580;
    So he wont cost too much, but he sucks. He did OPS under .700 last yr.
    I think I'll consider his .779 career OPS over his career worst OPS. He's also the best defensive 3B in baseball.

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    You are removing Bay who had a .921OPS and a .384OBP.
    You are removing Lowell who had an .811OPS and a .337OBP.
    You add a player in Beltre who had a .683OPS and a .304OBP.
    You add a player in Cameron who had a .794OPS and a .342OBP.

    You can make all the excuses you want to, but both of these guys are massive downgrades. Beltre, when healthy, is good for a .780-.800OPS and a .320OBP.

    The sox offense was built upon being difficult outs. But you subtract two guys from the middle of your order who worked counts and add two guys who arent tough outs. This offense became less dangerous and is being sold to the pink hats as a defensive upgrade.
    The rebuild is complete.

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;515589;
    You are removing Bay who had a .921OPS and a .384OBP.
    You are removing Lowell who had an .811OPS and a .337OBP.
    You add a player in Beltre who had a .683OPS and a .304OBP.
    You add a player in Cameron who had a .794OPS and a .342OBP.

    You can make all the excuses you want to, but both of these guys are massive downgrades. Beltre, when healthy, is good for a .780-.800OPS and a .320OBP.

    The sox offense was built upon being difficult outs. But you subtract two guys from the middle of your order who worked counts and add two guys who arent tough outs. This offense became less dangerous and is being sold to the pink hats as a defensive upgrade.
    But, what you're missing is that they've clearly changed their approach.

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;515589;
    You are removing Bay who had a .921OPS and a .384OBP.
    You are removing Lowell who had an .811OPS and a .337OBP.
    You add a player in Beltre who had a .683OPS and a .304OBP.
    You add a player in Cameron who had a .794OPS and a .342OBP.

    You can make all the excuses you want to, but both of these guys are massive downgrades. Beltre, when healthy, is good for a .780-.800OPS and a .320OBP.

    The sox offense was built upon being difficult outs. But you subtract two guys from the middle of your order who worked counts and add two guys who arent tough outs. This offense became less dangerous and is being sold to the pink hats as a defensive upgrade.
    HOLY SHIT


    Lowell cant play third base anymore , anyone will be an upgrade over him

    We also added Lackey

    our defense is WAY better than last year

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    Re: Why Beltre Will Only Cost $2 Million....

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;515589;
    You are removing Bay who had a .921OPS and a .384OBP.
    You are removing Lowell who had an .811OPS and a .337OBP.
    You add a player in Beltre who had a .683OPS and a .304OBP.
    You add a player in Cameron who had a .794OPS and a .342OBP.

    You can make all the excuses you want to, but both of these guys are massive downgrades. Beltre, when healthy, is good for a .780-.800OPS and a .320OBP.

    The sox offense was built upon being difficult outs. But you subtract two guys from the middle of your order who worked counts and add two guys who arent tough outs. This offense became less dangerous and is being sold to the pink hats as a defensive upgrade.
    *Yawn*.

    Add a full season of V-Mart and Marco Scutaro, as well as two players with tailor-made swings for Fenway.

    Keep trying to convince yourself, buddy.

    The only pink hat fan would be one who bought the bullshit you're selling.

    And yes, i'm being dismissive and confrontations because i have little patience for trolls.

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