Realistically, yes. Even extending Medicaid to those 10 million would be cheaper than usurping the whole healthcare industry.Originally Posted by Dipre;463846;
Realistically, yes. Even extending Medicaid to those 10 million would be cheaper than usurping the whole healthcare industry.Originally Posted by Dipre;463846;
But then you're just updating the current system, and that is not what they intend to do.Originally Posted by rhet;463876;
That's why i said not realistically.
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so basically making insurance available to those who cannot currently get it? I just don feel that those that do have healthcare should have to pay for others who dont work as hard to get healthcare.Originally Posted by Dipre;463875;
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
This is true, however, thus the conundrum.Originally Posted by The_Destroyah;463881;
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The current system works fairly well for those who buy reasonable coverage. It also works very well for the poor who utilize it. Of course, there are problems, as jacksonianmarch has stated. Economical coverage for the tweeners, paucity of doctors, incentives for research, drug costs and malpractice reform all need to be addressed. But they should be addressed individually, not as a government takeover.Originally Posted by Dipre;463877;
IMO this is what the reform SHOULD constitute.Originally Posted by rhet;463887;
But they want to make a hostile takeover.
I'm not much of a conspiracy theory guy, but there's something weird with the whole issue.
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No need for a conspiracy. State run healthcare has been the goal of a certain political party in this country for the last 70 years.Originally Posted by Dipre;463890;
Lulz.Originally Posted by rhet;463891;
Wouldn't that count as a sort of conspiracy?
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No, it's not a conspiracy, it's just another push towards socialism.Originally Posted by Dipre;463893;
JFK must be rolling in his grave with what these clowns are doing.
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." BAWHAWHAW, yeah, if you work you can pay more taxes. If you don't, it's evidently your Constitutional right to have what others earn.
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No offense, but that's stupid.Originally Posted by YAZMAN;464012;
Socialism would take tens of years to apply in the US.
You need to go ahead and look up what socialism actually is, and how it's impossible to convert a purely capitalist country into socialism.
For actual socialism to be applied, your economic regime would have to be crushed.
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No, government exists as agreement among people to give up some of their freedom (natural, anarchy type freedom) for stability. How much of that freedom they give up is decided by the people who establish the governing system (or, in some cases, they have no say and allow themselves to be ruled by others). There is no set purpose for government. It's variable. The people decide what they want the role/responsibility of government to be. To me, this Jerry McGuire, "You complete me", shit is nonsense. That's not the country I was raised in, and I damn sure hope it doesn't become that.Originally Posted by Dipre;463865;
we'll never get to pure socialism. But, having an unequal tax system pushes toward it, AND when you make it more unequal, then you continue the same push.Originally Posted by Dipre;464243;
Hal sucks
You said yourself the role is determined by those who govern it, and remember that Governments are not meant to DELIVER SERVICES, but to create the structure for services to exist, that is universal among the so-called democratic states.Originally Posted by ORS;464322;
If your government wants to shit itself by staging a hostile takeover of the healthcare system, good for them, but don't mistake that for the basic premises of what a State's supposed to do, even if the constitution doesn't specify it.
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You can't even push as long as the unequal nature of capitalism exists.Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch;464328;
No matter how hard they push, the social differences can not disappear, therefore not even a "moderate socialism" can take place.
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Taking over complete industries will bring us to socialism. Banks, autos and now healthcare make up 30% of our GDP.Originally Posted by Dipre;464335;