Yankee Minor League notes

[redsoxrules]

this is a red sox forum

the thread was ruined as soon as you posted it, not because of me or bosox21

[diony]

Also, even though he dominated minor league camp, Slade Heathcott is in extended spring training and will be starting the season in June with the SI Yankees

Link?

[jacksonianmarch]

http://yankees.scout.com/2/958640.html

need a password

Also, Christian Garcia is hurt again. Seriously, the yankees screwed the pooch on this one leaving him in the rotation. He threw 5.2IP of scoreless dominance before being taken out, escorted by a trainer with 2 strikes on the hitter. No idea what it was.

[yankees228]

Thing is, you guys can talk all you want about how it's Yankees' talk on a Red Sox forum, but the talksox.com, as it is structured, encourages us to talk about the Yankees.

EDIT: At BS21, rsr, and anyone else who plays that card.

[jacksonianmarch]

Garcia left with tightness in his elbow. He says he thinks it's serious. Might be time to write him off, unless it's just se scar
tissue breaking up

[jacksonianmarch]

He tore his UCL again. He needs Tommy John again. I think this is it for him. What a waste of great talent

[ORS]

Thing is, you guys can talk all you want about how it's Yankees' talk on a Red Sox forum, but the talksox.com, as it is structured, encourages us to talk about the Yankees.

EDIT: At BS21, rsr, and anyone else who plays that card.

This sub-forum was created as a catch basin for all the Yankee related talk that was spilling into the general MLB forum a few years back. It was not created as a platform for the modern day baseball version of Joseph Goebbels.

[jacksonianmarch]

So, seeing as it was created due to a lot of the Yankee talk, then there was a need for its creation. Regardless of what it was created for, you now have enough Yankee fans here to necessitate its use.

[yankees228]

This sub-forum was created as a catch basin for all the Yankee related talk that was spilling into the general MLB forum a few years back. It was not created as a platform for the modern day baseball version of Joseph Goebbels.

I was here, and I understand, but it's obvious that once you create a separate forum, it's pretty clear that you're going to get all kinds of Yankees' talk (ranging from minor league players to the big league club). If the forum's administrative team didn't want that, they never should have created a sub-forum, instead they should have taken measures to limit the Yankees' talk in the general baseball forum.

Jacko wants to talk about the Yankees' minor leaguers in the Yankees' sub-forum. I'll say this, it says a lot about people if they are actually bothered enough by this to come into the thread and make posts that demonstrate how bothered they are.

[ORS]

I'll say this, it says a lot about people if they are actually bothered enough by this to come into the thread and make posts that demonstrate how bothered they are.

And I'm of the opinion it says even more about the person they are responding to. If you make this thread, there's likely very little comment. Jacko's a lightning rod here for a reason. His tantric ballwashing of Yankee prospects is tantamount to standing on top of the highest building with a 20' copper pole strapped to his back, and I'm confident the complaints are geared more toward a loathing of what this thread will become, a place where every 3/4 by some going nowhere scrub is met with pseudo-scouting gibberish about how awesome he will be for the Yankees in 1-3 years, than they are toward the overall thread concept.

[yankees228]

Thing is, we completely disagree about Jacko. Yeah, he has said some ridiculous things. But in reality, that's no different than most of us. He says positive things about some guys, and negative things about some guys. He has this reputation because he's a positive Yankees' fan on a Red Sox's forum, more so than someone like me, for instance.

Thing is, everyone just knocks Jacko's optimism on here, and they completely ignore when he's right, which is a decent amount of time. Want a huge example of this? When the Yankees were scuffling at times in April and June of last year, Jacko was very positive about this team. He was knocked by a lot of posters on this site, including yourself. But in the end, Jacko was right, and everyone who knocked him was wrong. Unfortunately these things are never noticed. Jacko is like a politician who has made a couple mistakes and miscalculations, but whenever that politician makes positive contributions, they're just completely ignored.

So, in this case, he wants to talk about some Yankees' prospects, some of which he'll inevitably overhype. That bothers people. That actually bothers people. I feel like this needs to be repeated a few times to sink in. Jacko wants to talk about Yankees' prospects. That bothers people. It bothers people that Jacko wants to talk about Yankees' prospects. People are bothered that Jacko wants to talk about Yankees' prospects. Maybe a couple people will read this and think to themselves, "Hey, it's pretty ridiculous that it bothers me that Jacko wants to talk about some Yankees' prospects". I won't hold my breath.

You want to know what's even more ridiculous? That Jacko's optimism about the Yankees' have become one of the biggest themes on this board. People have been talking for awhile on here about the declining nature of the board. You want reasons? Start there.

Jacko, I like this thread. While I don't take everything you say as gospel, it gives me a chance to hear about some of the up and coming Yankees' prospects, as I don't go out of my way to read about these things. Additionally, it gave me a nice opportunity to ask your opinion on someone whose friend I met in Tampa.

However people have a problem with these things. There are plenty of things that boggle my mind in this world. Why did John Wilkes Booth intentionally cost himself time and distance while trying to flee down South? Why did Lee Harvey Oswald corner himself in a movie theatre, and draw attention to himself by going in without paying (I'm fascinating by famous assassinations)? But lately there is one more thing that has crept into this category. Why does Jacko talking about Yankees' prospects bother people so much? It has truly become a great mystery.

[ORS]

Thing is, we completely disagree about Jacko. Yeah, he has said some ridiculous things. But in reality, that's no different than most of us. He says positive things about some guys, and negative things about some guys. He has this reputation because he's a positive Yankees' fan on a Red Sox's forum, more so than someone like me, for instance.

Yes, he says positives and negatives. The chart captures this very well, and it is the reason he rubs people the wrong way. Death, taxes, the chart, Gom trolling.....these things you can count on.

Thing is, everyone just knocks Jacko's optimism on here, and they completely ignore when he's right, which is a decent amount of time. Want a huge example of this? When the Yankees were scuffling at times in April and June of last year, Jacko was very positive about this team. He was knocked by a lot of posters on this site, including yourself. But in the end, Jacko was right, and everyone who knocked him was wrong. Unfortunately these things are never noticed. Jacko is like a politician who has made a couple mistakes and miscalculations, but whenever that politician makes positive contributions, they're just completely ignored.

Let me help you out here a little bit. Jacko did the same thing in '05, '06, '07....get the point. Sure, he was right in '09, but it's the same message every year. Color me unimpressed.

So, in this case, he wants to talk about some Yankees' prospects, some of which he'll inevitably overhype. That bothers people. That actually bothers people. I feel like this needs to be repeated a few times to sink in. Jacko wants to talk about Yankees' prospects. That bothers people. It bothers people that Jacko wants to talk about Yankees' prospects. People are bothered that Jacko wants to talk about Yankees' prospects. Maybe a couple people will read this and think to themselves, "Hey, it's pretty ridiculous that it bothers me that Jacko wants to talk about some Yankees' prospects". I won't hold my breath.

You want to know what's even more ridiculous? That Jacko's optimism about the Yankees' have become one of the biggest themes on this board. People have been talking for awhile on here about the declining nature of the board. You want reasons? Start there.

Jacko, I like this thread. While I don't take everything you say as gospel, it gives me a chance to hear about some of the up and coming Yankees' prospects, as I don't go out of my way to read about these things. Additionally, it gave me a nice opportunity to ask your opinion on someone whose friend I met in Tampa.

However people have a problem with these things. There are plenty of things that boggle my mind in this world. Why did John Wilkes Booth intentionally cost himself time and distance while trying to flee down South? Why did Lee Harvey Oswald corner himself in a movie theatre, and draw attention to himself by going in without paying (I'm fascinating by famous assassinations)? But lately there is one more thing that has crept into this category. Why does Jacko talking about Yankees' prospects bother people so much? It has truly become a great mystery.

There is no mystery. It's the chart.

[yankees228]

http://www.talksox.com/forum/damn-ya...p-yankees.html

That thread is from 2007. There are similar ones from other years.

Anyway, this is just silly. Jacko bothers you guys. That is truly ridiculous. But hey, the board, as a whole, will continue to attack all of Jacko's posts, no matter what they say. It really is too bad.

[Dipre]

You convenientely ignore the "Red Sox pessmism" that goes along with the "Yankee optimism".

You don't like it when we say it, but it IS a Red Sox forum. He could refrain from making some statements that he knows will rub people the wrong way, but makes them regardless. The Ellsbury assesment today is a clear example. I personally don't root for him to go, and i don't care about his analysis of Yankee prospects etc etc etc, but the relentless negativity about the Sox as a team and as an organization is tiring.

Read his post about the opening day festivities at Fenway for a textbook example. They're cheesy, Pedro throwing the first pitch sucked etc etc etc. Jesus Christ.

[yankees228]

You convenientely ignore the "Red Sox pessmism" that goes along with the "Yankee optimism".

You don't like it when we say it, but it IS a Red Sox forum. He could refrain from making some statements that he knows will rub people the wrong way, but makes them regardless. The Ellsbury assesment today is a clear example. I personally don't root for him to go, and i don't care about his analysis of Yankee prospects etc etc etc, but the relentless negativity about the Sox as a team and as an organization is tiring.

Read his post about the opening day festivities at Fenway for a textbook example. They're cheesy, Pedro throwing the first pitch sucked etc etc etc. Jesus Christ.

Yes, he says some things that rub people the wrong way, that he probably shouldn't say. There is no denying that. But so many other people on this forum are guilty of the exact same thing. Jacko frequently credits the Red Sox, it is just always ignored because people hear what they want to hear, and everyone wants Jacko to live up to the pre-conceived notions they hold for him.