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    Re: Welcome to Boston, Daniel Nava

    in his first 80 at bats, he's hitting .300/.371/.488. as far as i'm concerned, ellsbury can take his time because nava's providing much better production than ells would be

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    Re: Welcome to Boston, Daniel Nava

    I honestly think that at this point, he's far more valuable on the Sox than as a trade chip. The only expectation of him right now is to decline, but if he's going to be as consistent as they want trading teams to believe he is, why not keep him around?

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    Re: Welcome to Boston, Daniel Nava

    i wouldn't trade him. he'll probably decline, but his production's probably going to be much better than hermida's and at a fraction of the cost

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    Re: Welcome to Boston, Daniel Nava

    A switch hitting guy who can bat .300 and play both corners is useful, especially if he hits his share of line drive doubles. And if that doubles power ever matures into a line drive HR swing (see Youkilis, Kevin) look out.
    If history tells us anything, the path to redeption for any bad baseball team is marked with a deep rotation of durable starters, a world class defense in both infield and outfield, a lineup that can generate runs in more than one way, a bullpen that won't steal defeat from the jaws of victory, and a top end catcher to hold the whole package together. These are the conditions by which victory is achieved, anything that does not accomplish these objectives is a waste of resources.

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    Re: Welcome to Boston, Daniel Nava

    89 PA's and 80 AB's in the Majors is not enough of a sample size to label a guy a .300 hitter in the Major Leagues, specially if he has a .415 BABIP, which is unsustainable .

    Now don't get me wrong, i like the kid, but let's be real here. You can use his minor league stats for reference if you want, but AA =/= MLB.
    WAR is good for something.

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    Re: Welcome to Boston, Daniel Nava

    I don't know a whole lot about how developing prospects work, but I went back and looked at the AAA stats of Ellsbury, Youk, Pedroia etc and it seems like all their stats end up being similar to what they are in the MLB. Not to say that its an instant thing, but from the players I've looked at there is a clear trend. If a player is good enough, they'll adjust to the competition and eventually play the same way they did in AAA and other minor leagues.

    Nava has developed enough skill wise, and physically. He was killing the ball in AA, but the only real factor anyone could have against him right now is that he didn't have a ton of time in AAA. He's a switch hitter, he's surrounded by a tough lineup and he is getting his chance to prove himself. If we set an over-under on .780 OPS, I'd pick the over.

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    Re: Welcome to Boston, Daniel Nava

    His ceiling in Boston would be as a 4th outfielder. If you can get a solid reliever for him (wouldn't happen, but maybe you get someone on a day when they drank too much cough syrup) you do it without thinking twice.

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    Re: Welcome to Boston, Daniel Nava

    I disagree with you. Nava has shown strong offensive ability and he's obviously still adjusting to big league ball. Prejudging his ceiling is a mistake that a lot of people have made already and he's gone through the minors proving them all wrong.

    Any guy who can get the bat on the ball and deliver the kind of quality contact Nava has provided so far could start for a team. He wouldn't be Plan A in Boston, especially not at first, but if he gets another long chance next year and does the same thing only with more power -- well, let's just say I can see a couple scenarios where Nava could Youkilis his way into a starting role no one originally planned on him earning.

    I see him very much like a baseball version of Tim Thomas -- talented but unorthodox and somewhat offputting and waiting for a chance to prove everyone who ever underestimated him wrong. All that remains to be seen is if he has the talent to make it happen, and for right now the signs are pretty good. So instead of clapping an arbitrary limit on a guy who's made a career of defying type I'd rather just enjoy the show. Because I think it'll be enjoyable.
    If history tells us anything, the path to redeption for any bad baseball team is marked with a deep rotation of durable starters, a world class defense in both infield and outfield, a lineup that can generate runs in more than one way, a bullpen that won't steal defeat from the jaws of victory, and a top end catcher to hold the whole package together. These are the conditions by which victory is achieved, anything that does not accomplish these objectives is a waste of resources.

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