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    The Pats' run under B & B is a remarkable thing indeed. You really aren't supposed to be able to dominate a professional sports league as long as this.

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    So it must be because they cheat so much. That must be the obvious conclusion to the nitwits that can not understand why that Pats win so much.

    Lol.
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    "It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudboy View Post
    So it must be because they cheat so much. That must be the obvious conclusion to the nitwits that can not understand why that Pats win so much.

    Lol.
    Kinda what we hear about the Yankess: they cheat (PEDs) and buy championships (FA splurges).

    Teams that win all the time are always hated by other teams' fans more than usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    The Pats' run under B & B is a remarkable thing indeed. You really aren't supposed to be able to dominate a professional sports league as long as this.
    It also shows just how hard it is to win Superbowls, even with a dynastic team like the Pats.

    Winning 4 big games in the last 15 years is remarkable, but when compared to other sports' dynasties, it's not that impressive.

    They did win 3 in 4 years, which might be harder than Pittsburg's 4 in 6 or Green Bay's 5 in 7 (counting pre-Super Bowl years), but that's about the best one can expect in football with it's single game elimination format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Kinda what we hear about the Yankess: they cheat (PEDs) and buy championships (FA splurges).

    Teams that win all the time are always hated by other teams' fans more than usual.
    Except that other than spygate there is no evidence that the Pats cheated. And one of the things BB is most admired for is not spending heavily anywhere and in particular FA. No one has built a championship team and sustained it's run of success during the free agency / cap era better than the Pats. Fact.
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    "It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    It also shows just how hard it is to win Superbowls, even with a dynastic team like the Pats.

    Winning 4 big games in the last 15 years is remarkable, but when compared to other sports' dynasties, it's not that impressive.

    They did win 3 in 4 years, which might be harder than Pittsburg's 4 in 6 or Green Bay's 5 in 7 (counting pre-Super Bowl years), but that's about the best one can expect in football with it's single game elimination format.
    lol
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    "It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudboy View Post
    Except that other than spygate there is no evidence that the Pats cheated. And one of the things BB is most admired for is not spending heavily anywhere and in particular FA. No one has built a championship team and sustained it's run of success during the free agency / cap era better than the Pats. Fact.
    No doubt. The NFL is built for parity, yet BB has thrived in the most restrictive major sport system in America.

    I didn't mean to minimize the Patriots accomplishments. They are truly a marvel.

    The whole cheating thing is more myth than anything else, but it is a contributing reason many fans hate the Pats. Ultimately, it's the winning that gets fans angry. Had the Pats cheated and continually lost, nobody would care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    No doubt. The NFL is built for parity, yet BB has thrived in the most restrictive major sport system in America.

    I didn't mean to minimize the Patriots accomplishments. They are truly a marvel.

    The whole cheating thing is more myth than anything else, but it is a contributing reason many fans hate the Pats. Ultimately, it's the winning that gets fans angry. Had the Pats cheated and continually lost, nobody would care.
    I can agree with all of this.
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    "It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    It also shows just how hard it is to win Superbowls, even with a dynastic team like the Pats.

    Winning 4 big games in the last 15 years is remarkable, but when compared to other sports' dynasties, it's not that impressive.

    They did win 3 in 4 years, which might be harder than Pittsburg's 4 in 6 or Green Bay's 5 in 7 (counting pre-Super Bowl years), but that's about the best one can expect in football with it's single game elimination format.
    those were pre salary cap teams. cannot compare. what the Patriots have done in this age of NFL team parity is nothing short of remarkable and the Dynasty that this team is far outmatches any other sports dynasty because of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    those were pre salary cap teams. cannot compare. what the Patriots have done in this age of NFL team parity is nothing short of remarkable and the Dynasty that this team is far outmatches any other sports dynasty because of that.
    I agree, but it's not like the Packers outspent everyone in the 60's.

    I'm not sure about the Steeler's spending comps.

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    Pretty cool article on the Pats' Martellus Bennett. He seems to be quite the character, in a good way.

    http://nypost.com/2017/01/28/the-nfl...-let-get-away/

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    Roger Goodell must be happy. Fuck him, prick.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people donít buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

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    The Sox will compete with the Jays.

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    it is official. Tom Brady is god. Fuck Roger Goodell!!!
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people donít buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

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    The Sox will compete with the Jays.

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    lmao can't wait for him to give Brady the trophy.

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    Goodell is vomiting right now. They may have to run more commercials.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people donít buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    The Sox will compete with the Jays.

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