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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonbay44 View Post
    Patrick Mahomes is fun to watch. When it’s all said and done, we could be talking about him as the greatest of all time. He has everything you want in a QB
    The most fun part is all the talking heads in Chicago bemoaning taking Mitch Trubisky over him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    He's played 2 seasons. Granted, two extremely impressive seasons.

    But he also has an excellent O-line and a receiving corps with two of the fastest human beings on planet Earth on it. And for all the "bust" talk that Sammy Watkins carries with him, the man has some of the best hands among all receivers in the NFL.

    Let's see how Mahomes does with varying quality in the O-Line that comes over the years, and with various receivers before we label him the best all time at anything.

    But I'm OK with calling him the best QB in the NFL right now...
    Not Lamar Jackson?
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    I reminded baseball ops that we are focused on competitiveness over the next 5 years over and above resetting. You seem to think Chaim was brought in to reduce payroll. That has simply not been the way FSG operates here or across the pond.
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    For Boston fans, the deal sucks. The Red Sox didnít need to back off from contention and trade Mookie Betts. The deal serves principally to increase the Red Soxís profits with a small increase in their competitive position some years down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Not Lamar Jackson?
    No, but he is a good candidate to challenge Mahomes.

    If you were an NFL GM, which of these two would you prefer? There might be no wrong answer. Unless you say "Mitch Trubisky"...

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    I worry that Jackson rushes too much. He was better than Mahomes this year, but an injury could really derail Jackson's career. If Jackson outplays Mahomes again in 2020, I'd have to think about putting him in the top spot.
    Quote Originally Posted by John Henry View Post
    I reminded baseball ops that we are focused on competitiveness over the next 5 years over and above resetting. You seem to think Chaim was brought in to reduce payroll. That has simply not been the way FSG operates here or across the pond.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fangraphs View Post
    For Boston fans, the deal sucks. The Red Sox didnít need to back off from contention and trade Mookie Betts. The deal serves principally to increase the Red Soxís profits with a small increase in their competitive position some years down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    No, but he is a good candidate to challenge Mahomes.

    If you were an NFL GM, which of these two would you prefer? There might be no wrong answer. Unless you say "Mitch Trubisky"...
    I would go with the guy who has proven he's clutch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I would go with the guy who has proven he's clutch.
    So... Brady?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I worry that Jackson rushes too much. He was better than Mahomes this year, but an injury could really derail Jackson's career. If Jackson outplays Mahomes again in 2020, I'd have to think about putting him in the top spot.
    That's true for any QB. Or any NFL player.

    cut Jackson some slack. He does know how to rush as a QB. Too often those younger college sprinter QB's make too many second efforts and try to do too much rather than just going down. And THAT is when it leads to extra hits and shortened careers. Think RG III. Jackson appears to know when to go down or get out of bounds and doesn't think he has to get every inch on every rush...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    So... Brady?
    I meant strictly between Mahomes and Jackson, of course.

    It'd be Brady all the way if he was a pup of 38 again.
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    I think Jackson was the right choice for MVP, but if I could take any QB in the NFL, Mahomes is my pick. I think he’s the best player in the league

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonbay44 View Post
    I think Jackson was the right choice for MVP, but if I could take any QB in the NFL, Mahomes is my pick. I think he’s the best player in the league
    Lost in the Jackson/Mahomes debate is the wonderful season Russell Wilson had. Or what kind of QB could Josh Allen be if the Bills had any other offensive weapons to speak of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Lost in the Jackson/Mahomes debate is the wonderful season Russell Wilson had. Or what kind of QB could Josh Allen be if the Bills had any other offensive weapons to speak of...
    Wilson is definitely underrated. He is the main reason they won 11 games and nearly the division. The defense wasn’t good this year (they aren’t horrible mind you) wilson is a magical QB. He also beat Mahomes and the chiefs last year. Wilson also knows how to play in the playoffs. Lamar two years in a row has choked and played awful. Until he plays a good playoff game I can’t consider him a top QB. Putting up pretty regular season stats is one thing, it’s an entirely different thing to do it come playoffs against the top teams. Mahomes did, and he is is a fantastic player no doubt. Remains to be seen if Lamar can do it too.

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