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    2016 MLB Draft Thread.

    In general I shy away from starting threads but it is almost draft day and prospects are my favorite subject. Here is some relevant information leading up, feel free to add some analysts, articles, mock drafts, conversation, and hopes and desires.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft...kJm2qygLr0l.97

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2016/...all-mock-draft

    http://www.halosheaven.com/2016/6/3/...s-rankings-2-0

    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/181759...ewis-are-top-3

    http://espn.go.com/blog/mlb-draft/insider/post?id=2754


    From what I've gathered this is a generally strong draft compared to recent years yet it seems to be lacking a lot strong college pitching at the top and seems to be flush with a lot of high upside high school arms at the top. Of course, the last week leading up to the draft there are usually a few names that come flying up the draft boards and some college players get pushed to the top.

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    Sweet. Thanks Hugh. I was actually looking for this thread earlier this morning and contemplated starting one. Glad i didn't. Was ill prepared. Only thing i can add at the moment is the usual: Draft the best player, can't draft based on need necessarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emp9 View Post
    Sweet. Thanks Hugh. I was actually looking for this thread earlier this morning and contemplated starting one. Glad i didn't. Was ill prepared. Only thing i can add at the moment is the usual: Draft the best player, can't draft based on need necessarily.
    This, of course, makes all the sense in the world. Especially since so many draftees will be high school kids.

    But, what if, say, the Sox put an emphasis on pitching and draft a disproportionate number of arms?

    I realize these will still be 4-5 years away from being MLB ready if ever at all so there would be no immediate benefit to the Sox current or near term.

    But what if they selected 4-5 pitchers?
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    "It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudboy View Post
    This, of course, makes all the sense in the world. Especially since so many draftees will be high school kids.

    But, what if, say, the Sox put an emphasis on pitching and draft a disproportionate number of arms?

    I realize these will still be 4-5 years away from being MLB ready if ever at all so there would be no immediate benefit to the Sox current or near term.

    But what if they selected 4-5 pitchers?
    I don't think draft the best player available and focus on pitching need to necessarily be mutually exclusive. I think the further you move past the #1 pick the more fluidity there is between players and teams probably have draft boards that are tiered. Also, remember pitchers are generally 1/2 of the players that are going to be drafted and on your roster. The Sox will easily take 18-20 arms this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh View Post
    I don't think draft the best player available and focus on pitching need to necessarily be mutually exclusive. I think the further you move past the #1 pick the more fluidity there is between players and teams probably have draft boards that are tiered. Also, remember pitchers are generally 1/2 of the players that are going to be drafted and on your roster. The Sox will easily take 18-20 arms this weekend.
    Wow. I wasn't thinking about it that way.
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    "It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."

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    as with every year...i look forward to your post draft analysis Hugh. you are without a doubt the minor league "expert" in my world.....
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    Oh no, I'm no expert guys. I just love following the soxprospects and read soxprospects.com and baseball america all the time. I'd like to consider myself a well informed fan of the minor leagues.

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    hopefully there are a couple aces in that mix!!!
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    Thanks for the links, Hugh. I'll definitely have this page open Thursday night.

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    Can't forget Soxprospects, they have excellent draft coverage.

    http://news.soxprospects.com/2016/06...t-preview.html

    And I would highly recommend their draft preview podcast that I just finished as well.

    http://news.soxprospects.com/2016/06...view-with.html

    It's an easier listen if you download it on stitcher or itunes.

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    Spud, even if they spent the first 10 rounds only drafting arms, how many of them would actually pan out? The Sox have a poor history of developing pitchers. It seems like they are more adept at developing positional players. I'd say keep drafting the best players and use them as trade bait for pitching...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Spud, even if they spent the first 10 rounds only drafting arms, how many of them would actually pan out? The Sox have a poor history of developing pitchers. It seems like they are more adept at developing positional players. I'd say keep drafting the best players and use them as trade bait for pitching...
    I was not advocating for drafting only pitchers. I was just thinking aloud.
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    "It's also a simple and indisputable fact that WAR isn't the be-all end-all in valuations, especially in real life. Wanna know why? Because an ace in run-prevention for 120 innings means more often than not, a sub-standard pitcher covering for the rest of the IP that pitcher fails to provide. You can't see value in a vacuum when a player does not provide full-time production."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudboy View Post
    I was not advocating for drafting only pitchers. I was just thinking aloud.
    I'm not saying you were. I was just saying even if they were allocate more picks towards pitching, the recent track record leads me to believe that they'd probably struggle to develop those guys.
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    I get MV Pee.

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    That's what the Cubs have done. Focus on their org strength (developing position players) and find other avenues for pitching (4/5ths of their rotation are trade/FA guys).
    We miss you Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name? View Post
    That's what the Cubs have done. Focus on their org strength (developing position players) and find other avenues for pitching (4/5ths of their rotation are trade/FA guys).
    Fuck the Cubs.
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    I get MV Pee.

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